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BMW’s electric scoot gets 100-mile range

C evolution range gets new generation of batteries as used in BMW's i3 car

BMW HAS given the C evolution a battery upgrade boosting range to 100 miles and making electric two-wheelers suddenly seem a slightly more feasible prospect.  

The electric scooter is now available in two variants, a 15hp one to meet the A1 licence limit and a ‘Long Range’ one making 26hp.

The 15hp one will do a claimed 62 miles between charges while the Long Range one boosts that figure to 100 miles thanks to an increase in battery capacity from 60Ah to 94Ah.

BMW says the Long Range model has an electronically limited top speed of 80mph while the A1-compliant version will do 74mph.

Interestingly, the slower version makes 48hp peak power but creeps under the 15hp A1 licence limit because of the way power is measured, taking the continuous sustainable output.

The Long Range version also makes a peak of 48hp.

The updated C evolution is set to debut at the Paris Motor Show on September 29, with price to be confirmed.

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I'm sure it's nice an' all but the price will be laughable. 14 grand? I'd slap a salesman in the chops for such brazen piss-taking to my face.

As an engineer, I don't really see how BMW could significantly cut the price while retaining the range, performance, features, and build quality. Things like regenerative braking, fan-cooled 94Ah lithium-Ion batteries, sophisticated battery charging electronics, and high-efficiency, high-power electric motors with associated control electronics are all expensive to buy/produce -- much more so than are the components on gasoline-powered scooters.

dudeofrude's picture

And that's exactly why these electric bikes won't take off. Who's gonna pay 14000 for a scooter when you can buy a petrol powered one for 2000 with minimal running costs?
It's very nice and all but until they find a way to make it cheaper then it's just not gonna happen

Donteatpeople's picture

You probably can buy a scooter for £2000 but that’s a completely different market, people who are looking at the cheapest of cheap Chinese 50’s are not the same sort of people who are looking at premium scooters. When you consider that the petrol powered scooters in the BMW range are close to £10000 the pricing of the electric version starts to make a lot more sense.

I’m also confused as to why the article suggests that a 100 mile range is suddenly making electric two wheelers more feasible, 100+ miles of range is a reality that’s been on sale for a good few years now.

BubbaDaytona's picture

Wake up, progressive countries are already banning ICE vehicles and restricting old bikes away from city centres, the future is electric bikes or take the electric trolley.
But, BMW always manages to make their vehicles cost 30% more than the competition.
Right now, lithium batteries have not achieved the economy of scales of ICE engine parts, but electric motors and drive trains are inherently simple and should cost far less to produce than they do. The rest is a computer and software.

Seeing as I just bought a hybrid Yaris for under £20k, BMW can fuck right off thinking £14k is a reasonable price to pay for a scooter with 100 mile range.

Their competition is in the £5-7k range from NC750s, TMaxes, Burgmans, etc. Like it or not that's the price they've got to aim for. As well as that 100 mile minimum range. If they can't manage it, I bet Toyota can.

BMW right now are in a quandary about their electric vehicle future. Top execs are worried they won't make a bean in the short term, when the problem they face is actually what will happen in the next 50 years. Brand loyalties are being formed *now*.

BubbaDaytona's picture

BMW is taking its typical "Premium Brand Approach", first to market so they can expect to glean >14 grand.
The retail cost of this lithium pack is $3000. I don't see anything conceptually better than a $2000 Chinese E-scooter here.
But then, I don't get why people buy BMWs in any form.

snave's picture

And I've read the release, which I think you missed a very salient point, endemic to the lies, mistruths and deliberately surround electric vehicles - it's " Up to 160 km..." not a `100-mile range`. A subjective claim rather than objective statement.

Presumably if you only ride it in town and don't take advantage of any of that extra power and use sail mode down every slight dip it might go 99 miles, but not if you use anything more than a vestigial portion of the claimed 94 Ah battery capacity, unless the bike is aerodynamically better than something like the CdA 0.18 of the electric Monotracer (take my word for it, it isn't).

Given the 60 Ah model actually does about 48-50 miles against the 62 claimed, one might reasonably expect the same crippling weight and (un)aerodynamics to scale to around 76-80 miles in real world use, followed by 2-3 hours of charging. And who can choose whether that charge comes from `clean` wind turbines (that take 20+ years to deliver a return on their carbon investment and installation cost so aren't that clean after all) or coal-fired or nuclear power stations...

This whole thing is nothing more than a sham: For far less cost, and the same or less `planetary impact` you could have - as previously noted - a very nice 5-grand scooter that goes faster, further with greater storage capacity and weather protection that does about 80 mpg. At roughly £5 per gallon at current UK prices that's £9,500 for fuel, or 152,000 miles before you break even. If you allow for £200 / year for servicing over a 10-year lifespan that's still £7,500, or 120,000 miles.

Electric bikes are, quite literally, nonsensical.

Conversely, while they're using the same batteries as the I3, why aren't they using the same hybrid power plant as that car? The range extender version uses the twin cylinder 650cc motor off the scooters, so why not just add a slightly larger battery and a hub-driven electric motor to the 650GT? It's already a better scooter than this vomit-coloured pile of crap...

snave's picture

This precociously stupid notion that ICE vehicles are being banned from city centres and older bikes are being restricted how's about this for a reply: I don 't go there any more. And neither does my skill, expertise - or money. I've never paid a congestion charge - not even when I worked in London.

Now I just don't go there, at all. Must have saved thousands on buses, trains, McDonalds, Theatres, Cinema's and parking charges (Pay to park my bike? After travelling on those goat tracks that even a Lithuanian peasant would complain about? You can shove that right up ya gherkin pal)

It's the ultimate Consumer Truth that if the retards running our cities can't spot that they are starving their city of resources, not saving them, then the city deserves to die.

There's a cadre of ex-commuters down here on the South Coast who have taken the congestion charge; the abysmal public transport network; the constant penny-pinching puddle-fixing rather than pothole prevention, and the increasingly `big brother` antics of London bureaucrats as a sign that the lunatics have taken over the asylum, and stopped working there. The stress has just dropped away...

Just in my local pub there's at least eight who used to have high-powered jobs in the City, commuted by train (well insofar as Southern actually takes anyone anywhere anymore) and would spend their substantial salaries and stipends on entertainment, refreshment, and luxuries - including motorcycles - in the metropolis. I'm sure H-D and Ducati won't give a stuff that the sales have diverted to local dealers, but I bet their London outlets must be wondering where all their regulars went?

Electric bikes aren't a solution, they are a blindfold to even recognising the problem.

I have a five year old PCX125 that I use daily for the run to the train station. I reckon it'll last for anoth 3 years, at which point I'll replace it with something similar.

I predict that (assuming I'm still here, of course) the replacement for that next scooter will be electric. At the end of the day, there's a lot of marketing and market testing going on with this and previous electric scooters from BMW. I'm sure it's not a cheap exercise for BMW, nor the people who buys them. But I'm not slagging them off, as I'm quite sure that they are exploring this for the likes of me and subsequent generations who will use electric bikes & scooters as a matter of course.

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