Who's the biggest Pedant on VD?

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Who's the biggest Pedant on VD?

I think its a toss up between Dodgy and Silent

who gets your vote as the most pedantic old sod ?

Shouldn't that be "the more pedantic"?

sorry got to vote for SM here, at least DG posts 'useless bollox' every now and again too

OI!!! Why am I not there?I'm a pedant. I've always been a pedant. I'm famous for being a pedant, FFS!SM? Dodgy? Pah! I spit on their pedantry! It is as nothing compared with my pedantic assertions!Moto is also right: it should be "more" pedantic.It should also be "it's a toss up"."Who" should also have a capital letter, and there should be a full stop after "Silent".

moto748 wrote

Shouldn't that be "the more pedantic"?

lol i hope you choke on that dictionary you eat for breakfast!!!!

Exorcist wrote

lol i hope you choke on that dictionary you eat for breakfast!!!!

I think you mean "I hope you choke on that dictionary you eat for breakfast!!!!". (The first person nominative personal pronoun is capitalised in English.)

I think as well as a tit number we should have a pedant numberHow about:the winner of this poll becomes the 'Pedant master" and awards Pedant certificates to the most pedantic old b@stard of the day?(and yes i know my gramas bad so dont even f@cking say it!)

Exorcist wrote

yes i know my gramas bad so dont even f@cking say it!

I hope she gets better soon

Originally dribbled by Viffer there should be a full stop after "Silent". I think you'll find 'silentmemory' is one word and completely lower case Nah, I'm not even in the running, I leave the real pedantry to Viff and Windy. My vote would go to Big Daddy for being 'biggest' in every sense of the word except one, which I'm keeping for myself

silentmemory wrote

Originally dribbled by Viffer [B]there should be a full stop after "Silent". I think you'll find 'silentmemory' is one word and completely lower case Nah, I'm not even in the running, I leave the real pedantry to Viff and Windy. My vote would go to Big Daddy for being 'biggest' in every sense of the word except one, which I'm keeping for myself [/B]

Viffer wrote

I think you mean "[b]I hope you choke on that dictionary you eat for breakfast!!!!". (The first person nominative personal pronoun is capitalised in English.) [/B]

...and it should be ate, not eat. I presume said lexicographer's tome was consumed in the past.

I think a lot of the pedants on here should go on "countdown'go and chew the fat with Gyles Brandrith and chums

haydn wrote

...and it should be ate, not eat. I presume said lexicographer's tome was consumed in the past.

'choke' isn't past tense, so in all probability it was intended to read as future or present tense, but was just a badly consructed sentence. If you want to pick fault, choose the superfluous exclamation marks.

silentmemory wrote

I think you'll find 'silentmemory' is one word and completely lower case

Err, no.In the style of e e cummings, you have chosen (incorrectly) not to use a capital letter. Exorcist used a shortened form of your name (just as you referred to me as "Viff") and, perfectly reasonably, given that it was a proper noun, gave it a capital letter.

I agree with SM's point about haydn's comment.

Viffer wrote

Err, no.In the style of e e cummings, you have chosen (incorrectly) not to use a capital letter. Exorcist used a shortened form of your name (just as you referred to me as "Viff") and, perfectly reasonably, given that it was a proper noun, gave it a capital letter.

Wrong again Dictionary Boy, the word to which I was referring was the one in quotes, and as such is quite separate from my moniker. If you like, take it that I wasn't correcting you, merely making a statement of fact.But pedantry aside, 'silentmemory' is one word and in lower case, if that's how I want it spelt then that's how it should be. Shortening it and adding random capital letters doesn't change that fact.I think Heydn's still unaware of why I continually get his name wrong in every post I make referring to him

silentmemory wrote

'choke' isn't past tense, so in all probability it was intended to read as future or present tense, but was just a badly consructed sentence. If you want to pick fault, choose the superfluous exclamation marks.

...but the hope expressed by Exorcist is that the choking will happen at some point in the future, the dictionary having been consumed some point in the past. Ingestion of the dictionary at today's (past) petit-dejuner here assumed as the cause of pedantic over-application of vocabulary which may or may not result in epiglottal paroxysm.

moto748 wrote

Shouldn't that be "the more pedantic"?

Ah, but there are 3 choices in the poll. The third choice being "other".

silentmemory wrote

Wrong again Dictionary Boy, the word to which I was referring was the one in quotes, and as such is quite separate from my moniker. If you like, take it that I wasn't correcting you, merely making a statement of fact.

a) If I am to be "wrong again" I first have to be wrong once. This has not yet occurred, at least not in the context of this thread.b) It was in "quotes" (or "quotation marks" or "inverted commas" as they are more correctly known in British English) because I was quoting Exorcist.

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But pedantry aside, 'silentmemory' is one word and in lower case, if that's how I want it spelt then that's how it should be. Shortening it and adding random capital letters doesn't change that fact.I think Heydn's still unaware of why I continually get his name wrong in every post I make referring to him [/B]

I shall abstain from commenting your capricious disregard for the conventions of English, which Exorcist has chosen to observe.

qwerty wrote

Ah, but there are 3 choices in the poll. The third choice being "other".

Indeed, which is why we hadn't picked up on the title of the thread, using the term "biggest". Exorcist (who seems strangely absent from this debate) was considering only DG and SM in the body of his post.

haydn wrote

...but the hope expressed by Exorcist is that the choking will happen at some point in the future, the dictionary having been consumed some point in the past.

Assumption on your part there mate, and we both know how you hate to be on the sharp end of that[1]. You could read the sentence more than one way, so given "don't" and "choke" are present/future words, both Viff and I chose to give him the benefit of the doubt. The error was, as I have already said, one of poor sentence construction."People that presume to know what I think. " - Heydn, Riderstite, 13/8/01, in response to "What offends you?"

haydn wrote

...but the hope expressed by Exorcist is that the choking will happen at some point in the future, the dictionary having been consumed some point in the past. Ingestion of the dictionary at today's (past) petit-dejuner here assumed as the cause of pedantic over-application of vocabulary which may or may not result in epiglottal paroxysm.

Not at all. I read it as referring to a regular event.BTW, it's petit déjeuner.

Get a grip, people!

Originally dribbled by Viffer a) If I am to be "wrong again" I first have to be wrong once. This has not yet occurred, at least not in the context of this thread.b) It was in "quotes" (or "quotation marks" or "inverted commas" as they are more correctly known in British English) because I was quoting Exorcist.Very well covered with respect to part b) by the way, which, in order for me to be right, forces me to try to find error in a post previous to the one to which I am replying So...I think you mean "I hope you choke on that dictionary you eat for breakfast!!!!". Do you really think he meant those extra plings? If you're going to correct one aspect of his grammar, shirly you should correct them all, and if that's what you thought you had done then you were wrong.I shall abstain from commenting your capricious disregard for the conventions of English, which Exorcist has chosen to observe. Nor can I be bothered, but this is an easy get-out for me if you refuse to accept my earlier accusation of wrongtitudiny on your part. I think you're wrong in what you said earlier about shortening my moniker, despite my moniker not being strictly syntactically correct in the first instance.Phew! That's me out then

Viffer wrote

BTW, it's petit déjeuner.

Not on my screen it ain't.I mean isn't

Viffer wrote

I agree with SM's point about haydn's comment.

Surely you should only have the apostrophe or the s after SM not both together.

Zedsdead wrote

Surely you should only have the apostrophe or the s after SM not both together.

Why?

Zedsdead wrote

Surely you should only have the apostrophe or the s after SM not both together.

The genitive of the abbreviation SM is indeed SM's. Sometimes you see the apostrophe ess used after an abbreviation to make a plural. So if there were more than one silentmemory you might see several SM's. This is strictly incorrect. It should be several SMs. But it's become common usage, and only a pedant would correct it.

This is great - can I play?

Zedsdead wrote

Surely you should only have the apostrophe or the s after SM not both together.

Nope. 's shows possessive. Apostophe on it's own would be correct if the name ended in s.Also when quoting, the correct form is to use 'single quotes'. Double quotes are for quoting a quotation.As in:He said 'Well the guy said to me "I don't give a shit" and so he left'Can I have a pendant-number? Note use of hyphen, almost always missing from English these days.

E-Bike wrote

This is great - can I play?Nope. 's shows possessive. Apostophe on it's own would be correct if the name ended in s.Also when quoting, the correct form is to use 'single quotes'. Double quotes are for quoting a quotation.As in:He said 'Well the guy said to me "I don't give a shit" and so he left'Can I have a pendant-number? Note use of hyphen, almost always missing from English these days.

Of course, you can play: the more the merrier.Can we have "apostrophe on its own", please, without the apostrophe?The single/double inverted commas is interesting. The convention is usually merely to alternate; if anything, I should have said that the double usually starts, but I am prepared to consider (briefly) the possibility that I am wrong.I suspect you mean "pedant" rather than "pendant". I assume that was a typing error, rather than ignorance.As for the hyphen, usage is changing nowadays. I shoul tend not to put one in that expression, though I confess I'd be hard put to explain why.

appy as a pig in shit

Originally dribbled by Viffer Can we have "apostrophe on its own"Yeah gowon then, apostrophe on its own I shoul tendShhh, nobody tell im

And shyntax goes right down the pan!

Well Silent m8 your winning the poll so farall hail to the King Pedant...........

silentmemory wrote

Assumption on your part there mate, and we both know how you hate to be on the sharp end of that[1]. You could read the sentence more than one way, so given "don't" and "choke" are present/future words, both Viff and I chose to give him the benefit of the doubt. The error was, as I have already said, one of poor sentence construction."People that presume to know what I think. " - Heydn, Riderstite, 13/8/01, in response to "What offends you?"

I'm not presuming to know Exorcist's mind, he has already expressed a desire for moto748 to choke on the dictionary. Also, using 'eat' instead of 'ate' tends to suggest that one particular dictionary is consumed over and over again at each breakfast (Quote Viffer "I read it as referring to a regular event"), are such regurgitative abilities common (though it could explain the choking)? True, the sentence could be read in more than one way. It could be read backwards, for example, but that doesn't mean it would still make sense.

Tee Heee! Wot a lot of wags you are. This thread has had me falling of my seat Great way to start the morning

Originally dribbled by haydn True, the sentence could be read in more than one way. It could be read backwards, for example, but that doesn't mean it would still make sense. If it had made sense you wouldn't have felt the need to correct it, so no matter how you swap the words around it couldn't still make sense. Sorry My vote's still on Big Daddy or Viff.

Viffer wrote

"Who" should also have a capital letter, and there should be a full stop after "Silent". [/B]

Whatever the reasoning and argument behind silentmemory's name usage and abreviation, Viffer failed to correctly place the final full stop before the final close quotation marks.

I've just re-read the original question.Who's the biggest Pedant on VD?The question isn't attempting to ascertain the more pedantic individual, merely the pedant of greater size, so of the two mentioned, Dodgy wins.However, if Big_Daddy is in the frame, I suspect he'll be a strong favourite.

I wish I had time to read all this - looks great Unfortunately, I have to pull Exorcist up on one point of order regarding myself Opinionated? DefinitelyPedant? Never

I think Viff should be the Champion Pedant of the usage of English as a language.The Pedant's Pedant, I feel, is amongst DG, sm and hayden. I really couldn't split them.But who's the smallest pedant? Is it sm, height-wise, or does heydn have the weight advantage?

Sorry Guys but I have had enough, you lot are reminding me of school. In the best traditions of free speech and fun & Games on the Net we have been allowed your say and now I have to report you to the moderator as I think there has been some :RepetitionHesitationand my personal favouriteDeviation

Dodgy Geezer wrote

Unfortunately, I have to pull Exorcist up on one point of order regarding myself

"Point of order", pedantic git!

Well in the absinth of the any other challengers, and with the withdrawl of DG and myself from the running, we seem to be left with just Hayden and Viffer, with Viff being the far more consistent pedant of the two.So I say we give the dubious honour of Keeper of the List of Pedant Numbers to Viff, let him make up a suitable acronym if he wants, and dish them out sparingly for acts of outstanding pedantry. He is, after all, the only one who seems to actually want the job anyway Oh and btw, sorry Popeye, you're wrong about the period, period

I'll second that. Viff can be the inaugural "Pedant of the Week" and gets to choose next week's winner. It's a hell of a responsibility, m8, use it wisely.Congrats Viff, now I think custom dictates you should get the beers in by way of celebration.

Welldone vifer. im verry happy for yuo. Do'nt abuze your'e powwer, m8!

Viffer wrote

Can we have "apostrophe on its own", please, without the apostrophe?

I'm glad someone spotted it.

Viffer wrote

I suspect you mean "pedant" rather than "pendant". I assume that was a typing error, rather than ignorance.

Well done again.

Viffer wrote

As for the hyphen, usage is changing nowadays. I should tend not to put one in that expression, though I confess I'd be hard put to explain why.

You'd be wrong. 'pedant' is an adjective being used as a noun in this sentence, where there are two nouns - they should be hyphenated to clarify the meaning of the sentence. Otherwise we fill in the gaps with experience, rather than English.And finally..... No-one noticed that I had spelt apostrophe incorrectly.How pedantic would it be to challenge Viffer's status after the award has been given? Fairly pedantic, I think.

silentmemory wrote

Nah, I'm not even in the running, I leave the real pedantry to Viff and Windy. My vote would go to Big Daddy for being 'biggest' in every sense of the word except one, which I'm keeping for myself

Why thank you, sir. I'm honoured. My vote has to go to Viffer, who is by far the most pedantic person on VD. "silentmemory" (notice the quotes, because otherwise I'd have had to capitalise his user name, it being at the beginning of a sentence) and Dodgy Geezer are both pedantic, it's true, but they tend to excel in quantity, rather than quality of pedantry.I hope that helps.

E-Bike wrote

You'd be wrong. 'pedant' is an adjective being used as a noun in this sentence, where there are two nouns - they should be hyphenated to clarify the meaning of the sentence. Otherwise we fill in the gaps with experience, rather than English.How pedantic would it be to challenge Viffer's status after the award has been given? Fairly pedantic, I think.

In "pedant-number", pedant is a noun being used as an adjective.Also the hyphen is incorrect. You wouldn't hyphenate "telephone number", now, would you?

I emerge from the wallpaper paste (or, for E-bike's benefit, wall-paper-paste ), to find this has been bestowed upon me . Unusually, I hardly know what to say. I shall avoid the obvious and well worn joke about thanking my family, my agent and all those who have helped me to get where I am today.Suffice it to say that I am grateful for the recognition this represents. (I am gratified that BD has noticed that I go for quality rather than vulgar quantity of pedantry. I am actually very restrained and tolerant.) An honourable mention must be made, too, of SM for making a good scrap of it earlier in the thread. I shall consider my next move carefully and post accordingly. If I do come up with a number, I might give number 1 to SM, just to annnoy him, sorry, in recognition of his services to pedantry.Popeye has, inadvertently, revealed my Achilles' heel, not by contesting my placing of the full stop (which, as SM has pointed out, was correct, anyway), but by his typing "to correctly place". There are pedants who would disapporve of this, but I have to say, for reasons whichI have already aired on this forum, I do not consider tihs an error. I must also agree with Nippy's refutation of E-bike's point about the hyphen.

Viffer wrote

I do not consider tihs an error. SIZE]

I would Ben - can Viff have a new title?

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