Monet & Guyon

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Monet & Guyon

Anyone heard of them?
French and made in Lyon up until about 1960-ish.
They used predominantly Villiers engines.
Very pretty little things they are too - as seen in a French musee yesterday

The Koehler Escoffier is a Monet Guyon in another guise - allowed them to get around the French only rules in a national championship race series.

She keeps the Monet Goyon in a pretty cabinet,"Let them eat cake!" she says, just like Marie Antoinette.She's a trailer quee-een!sorry.

Great photies. Where about is the museum?

In a wee town called Melle in Western France, near Cognac.I have more pics but will post them up when I get home and on a decent connection.

I might look in there one day. There were some intriguing machines , especially the scooter and the three wheeler. Was that a two stroke with some sort of inlet valves?

:smoke: they look really good. but i'm not so keen on the last one, it looks a bit ariel- esque if you see what i mean.

The red ones were the sporting ones I'm told - derived from the factories racing efforts.

Some more pics

Excellent, I must pop in there sometime. Love the atmospheric backlit (photoshopped?) workshop scene.

Check out the wiring harness on that red ohv! Flexible conduit. Triumph can only manage thumbed on pvc tape these days!

Nice Musee that innit Nige.

Yeah but my host for the day was an old curmudgeon!

Velocette wrote

I might look in there one day. There were some intriguing machines , especially the scooter and the three wheeler. Was that a two stroke with some sort of inlet valves?

Looks like what the Yanks call F-head: overhead inlet valve, side exhaust valve four stroke.

Believe so, aye

ink ink wrote

Looks like what the Yanks call F-head: overhead inlet valve, side exhaust valve four stroke.

IOE innit- Inlet Over Exhaust. The inlet valve's usually held by a very light spring, and no camshaft, rockers, tappets etc are used. When the piston descends, the pressure differential sucks the valve open and the mixture in. Obviously they get a bit pissed off by high revs....

cgi.ebay.co.uk/Monet-Goyon-supersport-1929-350-ohv-MAG-motor_W0QQitemZ230117681676QQihZ013QQcategoryZ150041QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Big Nige feels the wallet throbbing again TBH thats a focking beautiful bike just as it is :smoke: , why anyone would throw all the patina and history in the bin and replace it with tarty paintwork and polish is beyond me

herriwullie wrote

IOE innit- Inlet Over Exhaust. The inlet valve's usually held by a very light spring, and no camshaft, rockers, tappets etc are used. When the piston descends, the pressure differential sucks the valve open and the mixture in. Obviously they get a bit pissed off by high revs....

The one in the picture looks like it's opened by a rocker, operated by a pushrod, driven by a tappet on a camshaft.

Velocette wrote

I might look in there one day. There were some intriguing machines , especially the scooter and the three wheeler. Was that a two stroke with some sort of inlet valves?

Hello Velocette,Its a voiturette made by Monet-Lagoutte, one of the earliest motorised vehicles they made between 1913 an 1917. This three wheeler, named Voiturette ML (Monet-Lagoutte) was equipped with an 350cc 4 stroke engine mounted on the steering front wheel and was be handled by only one handlebar for all functions. (Steering, acceleration,braking)More info : www.monet-goyon.net/Voiturette.htmlFrom 1917 on Jules Monet associated with André Goyon and started the company "Monet-Goyon"...(MG)In 1929 Monet-Goyon bought Koehler Escoffier(KE), started building 2 stroke motorcycles in 1932 and released them under the two brands. All modells from the two brands (MG & KE) where identical in their construction, apart the color,(Blue for MG and red for KE) and their names on the tank.They kept on building motorcycles until 1957, when Monet-Goyon ceased all activities and booth brands disappearred.Website Monet Goyon & Koehler-Escoffier : www.monet-goyon.net/KEMich Belgium

KEMich wrote

Its a voiturette made by Monet-Lagoutte, one of the earliest motorised vehicles they made between 1913 an 1917. This three wheeler, named Voiturette ML (Monet-Lagoutte) was equipped with an 350cc 4 stroke engine mounted on the steering front wheel and was be handled by only one handlebar for all functions. (Steering, acceleration,braking)More info : www.monet-goyon.net/Voiturette.htmlFrom 1917 on Jules Monet associated with André Goyon and started the company "Monet-Goyon"...(MG)In 1929 Monet-Goyon bought Koehler Escoffier(KE), started building 2 stroke motorcycles in 1932 and released them under the two brands. All modells from the two brands (MG & KE) where identical in their construction, apart the color,(Blue for MG and red for KE) and their names on the tank.They kept on building motorcycles until 1957, when Monet-Goyon ceased all activities and booth brands disappearred.Website Monet Goyon & Koehler-Escoffier : www.monet-goyon.net/KEMich Belgium

Nice links, thanks.

KEMich wrote

Hello Velocette,Its a voiturette made by Monet-Lagoutte, one of the earliest motorised vehicles they made between 1913 an 1917. This three wheeler, named Voiturette ML (Monet-Lagoutte) was equipped with an 350cc 4 stroke engine mounted on the steering front wheel and was be handled by only one handlebar for all functions. (Steering, acceleration,braking)More info : www.monet-goyon.net/Voiturette.htmlFrom 1917 on Jules Monet associated with André Goyon and started the company "Monet-Goyon"...(MG)In 1929 Monet-Goyon bought Koehler Escoffier(KE), started building 2 stroke motorcycles in 1932 and released them under the two brands. All modells from the two brands (MG & KE) where identical in their construction, apart the color,(Blue for MG and red for KE) and their names on the tank.They kept on building motorcycles until 1957, when Monet-Goyon ceased all activities and booth brands disappearred.Website Monet Goyon & Koehler-Escoffier : www.monet-goyon.net/KEMich Belgium

KEMich, Thanks for the info, also for the comments from the others about IOE etc. HerriWullie, I can't work out what the comments about Patina were, I assume someone suggested restoring the bike off Ebay.I have to agree with you 110%. Restored bikes have little or no soul IMO and original paintwork should be preserved, scratches, dents and all unless they are bad enough to prevent "use of the machine" another concept sadly undervalued by collector types.

i have a monet goyon ,serial no.654,and on another part of the frame so17.it has a monet villiers 100cc engine separate gearbox hand change on the tank no kick start or pedals,also i'm looking for gearbox images,is there anyone out that can help,cheers peter.

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