Phew!Just made it.There was a bloody Learner in front of me!

Losing the L plates is a stupid idea, I give learner riders far more room and time than I do non-learners, and I've got advanced warning they're likely to do something stupid so allow for it. Taking the L plates off will compromise your safety further, the arsehole cagers will always be arsehole cagers.If 65mph isn't enough for you as a learner then you're on the wrong road or the wrong bike.

silentmemory wroteLosing the L plates is a stupid idea, I give learner riders far more room and time than I do non-learners, and I've got advanced warning they're likely to do something stupid so allow for it. Taking the L plates off will compromise your safety further, the arsehole cagers will always be arsehole cagers.If 65mph isn't enough for you as a learner then you're on the wrong road or the wrong bike. You're a good rider if you do, but many get impatient with L-platers and automatically try to overtake at speed, or assume you're going to hang back and wimp out of every remotely potentially dangerous situation situation.I've never shown my plates in three years of learner riding, would attract too much attention at the speeds I do. Limiting learners (and R-plate drivers here in NI for a year after the test) to 45mph is sheer madness.

I used to do my daily commute on a 125 auto. Made me learn real quick about the dangers out on the road. When I passed the test, I noticed that the amount of cut-ups, for example, I got from car drivers decreased significantly. Same bike, just lost the L-plates. I think a lot of it stems from the fact that car drivers see an L-plate and automatically think that because learner car drivers are often slow, so will a bike rider. The attitude is 'Oh no, I'm stuck behind a learner, I've got to get in front, I've got to get in front'.

65 mile an hour out of a 125? Steep hill was it?Learner bikes are far too slow unless they're illegal. 50cc scoots are even worse, they filter to the front of a queue of London traffic and then take off like a sloth on Mogadon.But we all know that the less power you have the safer you are, cos the government said so.

Pretty much. Although in my forties, and a car driver for 25 years, it's not long since I was a learner on a bike. I only took it up 2 1/2 years ago. I had to put up with that kind of stuff all the time. It's interesting that it happened to you though, as an experienced rider. I could never quite figure out how much was down to in experience and lack of confidence as opposed to the bike itself.

E-Bike wroteDo you learners have to put up with crap like this every day? Yeap especialy when im on my H100 !!--just because they see the L-plate they think wright lets overtake.Its not to bad when im on my aprilia - not sure why but they seem less eager to get passed (probably because i play the** ill just keep speeding up when you try to overtake game ** just to piss um off )

Having sold GF's 125, I offered to drop it off with the new owner. A trip of 25 miles on a 125 is a walk in the park, thought me.Bloody Hell! It's a long time since I was on a 125 for a journey. Not counting trips to the bike shop for an MOT, etc.When I was on L plates, over 16 years ago -it was tough enough, but with todays faster cars and drivers attitudes it's hell.Just one incident: A Mercedes estate filtered past me tonight on a fast A road. I was doing 65 in a 60, but as Mr Merc wanted to overtake, he obviously presumed that an L plate on a two wheeler means riders are confined to the gutter like mopeds. Bugger came past me without waiting for the road to be clear the other side forcing me over. He received abuse from me and the approaching car. TwaT. Do you learners have to put up with crap like this every day?