Yorick wrotegood point - same as Schumaker at Ferarri really Wrong there mate, he was lapped in his first outing in that car but as we saw things did change as he and his team developed the car. Which leads nicely into what WRS said about Jeremy Burgess, the team is as important as the rider. One point though, Burgess said that Rossi was better at giving feedback than Doohan as he had been trained by Aprilla so he tends to have his bike spot on. He always seems to punch a fast lap early and then spend the rest of his time on race setup. If he has the bottle to go to Aprilla and win then he will get my vote, till then the jury is kind of out

Mr Soap wroteSounds like you're quite happy to give credit to everybody but Rossi, for Rossi's success. No, just trying to balancing a huge weight of opinion which goes the other way.Also, Jeremy (McWilliams) says he's one of the genuinely nicest folk he has ever met in his whole time of racing, so it's not personal (like it could be )gsxer400, a final couple of points. If Kanemoto had been as good as Burgess, he would be where Burgess is.........and the racing thing. You misunderstand, racing "per se" is not fun, being a racer is fun. I raced Irish Championship MX for 3 years, I got so sick before races that I threw up, you turned up wishing the race would be cancelled so that you wouldn't have to go through with it, but then threw a wobbly if it was cancelled. The elation after a race was probably sometimes a fair bit of relief as well that it was all over. You'd have to experience it to understand.

gsxer400 wroteWas that true when he was in 125 and 250GPs? First year in 250's he was on equal machinery with Harada and Capirossi, he finished third in the championship out of the three. The next year Aprilia fired Capirossi, and moved Harada to the 500 leaving Valentino on the only full works 250 in a class which they had always dominated.Really there would have been something badly wrong if he hadn't won it.He went straight into 500's under the wing of Jeremy Burgess, a man with more data on setting up an NSR than all of the paddock put together, and a man whose technical genius is very unfairly over-looked when discussing Valentinos success.

WRS wroteFirst year in 250's he was on equal machinery with Harada and Capirossi, he finished third in the championship out of the three. The next year Aprilia fired Capirossi, and moved Harada to the 500 leaving Valentino on the only full works 250 in a class which they had always dominated.Really there would have been something badly wrong if he hadn't won it.He went straight into 500's under the wing of Jeremy Burgess, a man with more data on setting up an NSR than all of the paddock put together, and a man whose technical genius is very unfairly over-looked when discussing Valentinos success. Sounds like you're quite happy to give credit to everybody but Rossi, for Rossi's success.

Jeremy Burgess is very knowledgable, particularly after working with Doohan, but again you seem to think there's noone else bothering to compete:*cough* kanemoto *cough*www.kanemoto-racing.com/kanemoto-racing.data/Stationeries/EKbiog.htmlErv Kanemoto’s reputation for preparing winning racing machinery began locally and nationally in the U.S.A. during the 1960's and 1970's. His quest to participate in the highest level of motorcycle racing was achieved by going world championship grand prix racing for the first time when he was contracted for the Barry Sheene/Yamaha entry in 1981. Erv was then contracted by the Honda factory team from 1982-1988 and this resulted in him directing teams which won two 500cc World Championships and one 250cc World Championship with American rider Freddie Spencer. The 58-year-old Californian has now been directly responsible for the preparation of machines that have won 64 grand prix events and seven world championships while working with other successful riders such as Eddie Lawson, Wayne Gardner, Luca Cadalora, Max Biaggi, Nobuatsu Aoki, Tadayuki Okada, Alexandre Barros and John Kocinski and this has brought him international recognition and respect, as being among the very best at what he does in the history of the sport. ERV KANEMOTO PREPARED RACE MACHINE RECORD 1981-PRESENT GRAND PRIX VICTORIES 64 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS 7