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Was thinking about this. How some things might change while others probably remain relatively untouched. How about you, what changes do you see in bikes and biking over the next 10 years?
suzuki-boy wrotewhat changes do you see in bikes and biking over the next 10 years?Lower the centre of gravity and lets hope for comfortable seating and front suspension you don't steer. Be a start.
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Bigger Nige wroteMotoGP bikes do.Just need to make it long term reliable.How many bhp per litre were WSB bikes putting out 10years ago (closest analogy) - 140bhp?anything producing 200bhp plus per litre is going to be stressed. DO MotoGP bikes do 4000 miles per service? Think how much it would cost, think how restrictive noise and emissions are going to be in 10 years time.
What would be good to see is bikes becoming more like cars, in a good way - for example:Longer service intervals (20k ?)Decent manufacturer warranties (5 year unlimited mileage ?)Better weatherproofing (10 year anti-corrosion warranties ?)Properly useful headlights which actually light up the roadGreater 'factory fitted' list of options at reasonable prices (heated grips, height adjustment, power sockets, adjustable screens / bars / pegs)
G wroteanything producing 200bhp plus per litre is going to be stressed. DO MotoGP bikes do 4000 miles per service? Think how much it would cost, think how restrictive noise and emissions are going to be in 10 years time.You're missing the point a bit I think.Highly tuned WSB bikes of 10 years ago were producing 140bhp and indeed needed rebuilds every race etc.Nowadays that would be considered a lowly power output and we have road bikes that punt out 170bhp easily doing 4k miles between services and, even if they aren't serviced, still don't go bang at 4001miles or beyond.How far has noise & emissions come in 10 years and yet still power climbs as factories find ways & means of better engine construction.Don't forget an internal combustion engine is only around 30-40% efficient so there are still lots & lots of potential gains to be had with lots of room to accomodate rules & regs.
If I'm not riding something at least as exciting as this in 10 years time, I'm going to complain But they'll probably still be rolling out the same old stuff, just with an extra 15bhpI'd like to see better fuel economy, better corrosion resistance and something that looks good if I can't have my jetpack though
G wroteCant see that happening myself.especuially for naturally aspirated engines. (ram air not included)I can see red tape, crappy roads and higher tax'sMotoGP bikes do.Just need to make it long term reliable.How many bhp per litre were WSB bikes putting out 10years ago (closest analogy) - 140bhp?
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Bigger Nige wroteYou're missing the point a bit I think.Highly tuned WSB bikes of 10 years ago were producing 140bhp and indeed needed rebuilds every race etc.Nowadays that would be considered a lowly power output and we have road bikes that punt out 170bhp easily doing 4k miles between services and, even if they aren't serviced, still don't go bang at 4001miles or beyond.How far has noise & emissions come in 10 years and yet still power climbs as factories find ways & means of better engine construction.Don't forget an internal combustion engine is only around 30-40% efficient so there are still lots & lots of potential gains to be had with lots of room to accomodate rules & regs.I dont think im missing the point.Yes I agree that over the last ten years everything from metallurgy to fuel injection / computers , machining methods have improved greatly. Hence power and reliablity have increased. I just dont see the same rate of improvements happening in the next 10 years. I see politics getting in the way with restrictive noise and emissions and possibly even have to meet a minimum mpg in the future (wouldnt be surprised if they did this down the line) I mean unless there is something REALLY fancy like plastics used in engines (it is possible) they wont get a production bike (eg a 2015 honda fireblade) pushing 250bhp naturally aspirated.Look at the quality of machining and materials just now. I can see improvements but not huge leaps.very basically We have fixed 1 litre capacitymore power needs more fuel and air or higher rev ceilingmore fuel and air is not possible naturally aspirated hence would have to go down higher rev ceiling. Bikes rev damn high allready for il4's you would need fancy light and balanced materials to make the engines rev faster more reliably.I understand that efficient combustion is also critical and this will be pushed through 2 things. the desire for more power and emissions control demanding "cleaner" engines. I can see more and more powerful computers running FI.Oh and I am aware at how inefficient IC engines areAnyway. chances are 2015 bikes will almost ride themselves (its allready happening www.ghostriderrobot.com/index.php)Wont be a real bike with real brakes and no traction control.. But thats a different story.



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