Roadsmarts - have you fitted them to your GTR1400?

Do you own Kawasaki's sport-touring GTR? Have you tried Dunlop's excellent Roadsmart tyre on your bike? Let me know

Posted: 7 August 2009
by Ben Miller

Roadsmarts - sweet on a GTR?

After another three months and 6000 miles on the big Kawasaki the GTR’s second pair of Bridgestones is finished. As usual the front’s fine but the A1’s dual-carriageway monotony has squared off the rear. Road cambers and white lines now send the bike all over the place while the steering’s become horribly heavy. Still, the tread depth remains legal and 6000 miles from the rear tyre on a 1400cc sports-tourer isn’t too shabby.

While I’ve no complaints about the BT-021s, in the interests of science I’ve decided to replace them with a pair Dunlop Roadsmarts. I’ve ridden on them many times and they really are superb, particularly in the kind of mixed weather the UK does so well in August. The tyre’s on Dunlop’s fitment guide for the GTR1400 (dubbed the Concours by US marketing execs) but I don’t know anyone who’s tried them on – anyone got any feedback?

 

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How come all the recent publicity for Roadsmarts, compared to Pilot Road 2 tyres?  Every journo seems to be going Roadsmart these days.  Yet all the local dealer folks here are shunning 'em in favour of Pilot Road Twos, because of customer feedback.  What's up?  Has Michelin bribed the dealers and Dunlop bribed the hacks?

Posted: 08/08/2009 at 21:16

Not on a GTR but replaced Corsa IIIs with Roadsmarts on my R1 and think they're great - to be honest they seem to give me more confidence than the Pirellis. 

Posted: 08/08/2009 at 21:20

No surprise the Roadsmarts give more confidence than Corsa IIIs for regular riding.  I find hypersports tyres only inspire more confidence when I do track days.  On the road they rarely get to an adequate temperature for optimal grip, even riding briskly.

These new dual compound tyres - like Pilot Road 2 and Roadsmart - seem to be the best of both worlds, with confidence inspiring grip on the road, even for a litre sportsbike rider like me.


Posted: 08/08/2009 at 21:36

I've just taken a pair off my BMW R1150RT.

they only lasted just over 4K miles, I was going to replace just the rear but when I checked the front it was squared off to buggery and only had about 1.8mm of tread left.  The tyres on there previously were Metz Z6 which did 8K miles and I have a pair of mich PRII on there now.

The PRII's have done about 2K miles now and are barely showing any signs of wear, I'm expecting a good amount of milage from them.

I've had no issues with grip on ANY of the tyres mentioned, they are all excellent in all weathers. 


Posted: 09/08/2009 at 14:36

I have a set on my ZZR1400 (getting close to a GTR now )

Fantastic tyres but they dont last long. I got 2.5k out of my rear. Front still looks good though

Posted: 09/08/2009 at 22:11

I have had Roadsmarts on my VTR1000 since last summer, 3000 miles pluse now and they are going great.  V good in the wet and damp and fantastic on fast roads.  I love them and still have at least a 1000 miles left on them.  I think they feel better than my BT016s on my GIXER!  All I can say is try them and see how you get on mate.  They are not cheap but you get the money back in miles.  Good luck.

Posted: 10/08/2009 at 11:04

Many thanks for the feedback folks, good stuff. Fair point on the Michelins - I guess there's a tendency to go with tyres you've tried and found to be good, though in the interests of something approaching a scientific test I'll endeavour to try some of Bibendum's products on the old girl before she goes back.

 Sgoaty, have you test-ridden a GTR? I really rated the ZZR riding it in isolation and would be interested to know how the two bikes stack up back-to-back?

Many thanks,

Ben


Posted: 10/08/2009 at 11:26

  • Advised by pro-tyre fitter to buy a pair for my CB1300. They were gently 'scrubbed in' for @200 miles then taken for a 10 day trip through france/spain/andorra. 5 of these days were spent going(playing) around the pyrenees(bend after bend).2,350 miles in all. i've just gone on a weekend away in sunny uk, @480 miles. after @3000 motorway miles/ twisty scalextric track miles they look barely worn,aren't squared off at all and inspire nothing but confidence. untill now i always raved about avons' 020's (in the past i've had these on a bandit12 and a busa)but these look like far exceeding there lifespan. i know i've got a CB1300 and not a GTR but i'd imagine that for the majority of time we'd be riding with about the same amount of power/torque/braking forces passing through the tyres.i know tyre life depends on the way you ride,personally,but i'd like to think i'm quite quick but safeish.it's a naked CB so top speeds are short bursts, so 85 to 90mph motorway miles are the norm.

hope this helps.


Posted: 10/08/2009 at 14:01

I had Roadsmarts on my GTR1400 for about 4 winter months.  Lasted approx 1500 miles.  Felt great, excellent road holding, but 1,500 miles, I won't be doing that again.  My riding style is not agressive and I do observing for the IAM.

Just got to the end of life with PR2s approx 4K miles and will be going back to the 021's.  They gave me the most number of miles and they are a known entity.

Andy


Posted: 10/08/2009 at 16:15

No I havent tried the GTR yet Ben I will do sometime though im sure

Posted: 10/08/2009 at 21:41

1500 miles Andy?! That's impressively poor. We've got a trip lined up next week that'll cover that in three days so if I'm blogging about a new pair of tyres this time next week you'll now things have gone all square-shaped...

How do you rate the GTR? After more than 6000 miles my biggest gripe, and it's really not that big, is the sometimes very clunky transition from a trailing to a positive throttle. Part of it's throttle control, granted, but the combination of abrupt fuelling and slighty clunky final drive can be annoying. Would you agree or do I just need to develop some sensitivity?!

Ben

 

Ben   


Posted: 11/08/2009 at 12:42

I have a GTR,have done 16000miles and  4 sets of Bridgestones, but there is something missing on these,and i cant quite put my finger on it, I read your blog with interest as i need to replace them again. Did you get a similar feel before you changed? and yes the fueling is a bit on and of, apply throttle through the gears, takes soom getting used to but it works.

Posted: 20/08/2009 at 06:24

Having done a lot of research there was concern that the Roadsmarts would not wear very well. 1500 miles seems to prove that.

I wasn't happy with the Bridgestone's - the front got really worn particularly when you want it on a lean.

Changed to PR2's. Confidence has soared and they hardly seem worn after 2k miles. Ok so you pay extra upfront but I think they're worth it in the long run.

And why, oh why, hasn't Kwacki done something about the exhaust on the GTR for the 2010 release? It's the same old spud chucker. I tell you something its also as heavy a hell! Saving on the weight alone must be worth it when compared with an after market stainless steel can. I can even ride the bike upright now instead of at a constant lean! (Just kiddin, but I have replaced something ugly with a thing of beauty, lost weight and got better performance to boot. It's like changing the missus!)


Posted: 20/10/2009 at 17:40

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