Bikers versus stupidity

At a party with one of Ken Livingstone's advisors

Posted: 11 December 2007
by Jimbo777

The other night I was invited to a party in London; a classic, 'i'll know 2 people there' but what the hell? It started badly when at the front door i was introduced to someone called Maximillian who does installation art. I didn't know what installation art was either and I still don't.. I think it might have something to do with doing impressions of 'Tim, nice but dim'.

As it turned out the party and it's attendees weren't exactly what i had expected. Still, there was no point complaining so i set out to make the best of it: I went straight to the balcony, rolled a cigarette and smoked it on my own while admiring my bike i had parked outside.

Just as i was racking my brains to come up with some sort of reason for my immediate departure a pretty blonde joined me on the balcony and asked for a light. All of a sudden i needed a second cigarette and my recently made-up internal haemorraging had cured itself.

We got chatting. It was the typical "so how do you know everyone here?" thing. She seemed fun and intelligent though and i was grinning from ear to ear when she pointed out my motorbike (not knowing it was mine) and said what a gorgeous bike it was. I was tempted to follow it up with some sort of quote from the great Ron Burgundy but luckily my brain kicked in just in time.

As it turned out she was a biker herself and then proceeded to tell me she was one of Ken Livingstone's advisors. Obviously i forgot about chatting her up and got to much more important stuff: Motorbikes. I proceeded to barrage her with questions and some of the answers proved quite interesting if slightly dismaying.

Firstly, i asked whether it was likely congestion charging for motorbikes was going to be brought in. Interestingly, she started by saying something that would be repeated as a precedence to every reply she gave to one of my questions: "As a motorcyclist, i'm not permitted to be too 'pro motorbikes' as it is seen as a conflict of interest within the duties of my job".

Let's start with that. One of Ken's advisors happens to have an insight into many of the questions/queries non-bikers would have. She could answer questions ranging from safety issues to the environmental impact compared to other vehicles - and trust me, she knew all the figures and facts. Yet, the one person equipped to advise is not allowed to? Who then, does advise and if they are not familiar with biking, how can they be suitable to advise on the topic? "They're not", came the response.

When did people and organisations stop thinking for themselves and start religiously following their new bible: "Procedural practice"? If something is broke, fix it! You do not stand there and say, "i need to fix it, but i need a screwdriver, but the PP bible said "screwdrivers should only be handled by someone with a degree in screwdrivery who, in actual fact is forbidden to use their skills due to a confliict of interest because they use one in their personal lives' ". This is what we are up against.

So, back to the question. Is congestion charging going to brought in for motorcyclists, the short answer was "maybe". She did say that the argument for congestion charging was surprisingly a lot to do with the perceived safety issues (explained further on) of biking in london but mostly about the extra income it would generate.

The arguments against congestion charging are painfully obvious: motorbikes do not contribute to congestion.

This is obvious to us all, so they then argue that we contribute to emissions, we still take up some space and parking spaces are put aside for us so why should we be exempt? Obviously this is all said under the guise of discouraging motorised vehicles coming into town centres, the nice lady had already admitted the real reason is increased income. Motorbikes would and could be a solution to a problem. The problem here, is that the problem is taxable.

The interesting part came when i asked if there were enough accidents to warrant such an unsafe view of motorbikes. The answer was "no" and more. Basically, when they try to implement the use of motorbikes, it generally comes hand in hand with the implementation of the use of bicycles. They have tried to start schemes with the NHS, the Police and Transport and Government workers to get them on bicycles and motorbikes to reduce emissions and congestion. Each one of these companies has come back and said "no, it's unsafe". Ken's pretty advisor told me that these different companies use this phrase as a 'get out of jail free' card as it means that their staff do not have to get up from the cake table to cycle somewhere (the majority wouldn't have a motorbike licence). They are free to roll out the door into their company car where more cake is waiting on the passenger seat.

This is great for them but the combined effect of all this is that the government has a massively one-sided and uninformed view of motorcycle safety - all coming from government establishments without real good reason, but due to people's combined laziness.

The fustrated advisor went on to tell me that it's pretty much the same reason that motorcyclists are being met with resistance in regard to driving in bus lanes. It's not the government saying bikes are unsafe but the government agencies (who the government obviously listen to); in this case, the bus and taxi companies. This isn't down to laziness this time, it would seem it's a much more perverse reason. Maybe it's a selfish 'what's ours is ours' reason, or maybe it's a jealousy that their privilege would be shared. Both are very human traits and there doesn't seem to be any other explanation for not doing something that seems logically very sensible. She agreed.

The very clever and pretty young lady hadn't given up however and told me she was doing something new to combat this. She has hired a psychologist into her team because apparently they are the only professionals permitted to ask the question "why?". Thanks to this lady, in the not too distant future all these cake loving companies will have to answer "Why are motorbikes unsafe" and back it up with corroborating data.

It seems there's a lot here to be very irate about but that is not the purpose of this article. I've pointed out what we, as bikers are up against to say that:

When i asked why the government didn't just pull rank and do what they want, she answered "because of the strength of the biking community". She told me that the government doesn't understand it, but can't help to recognise the affinity, comraderie and sense of togetherness that the biking community has.

Sometimes it's easy to think 'what's the point?' and not go on a ride-out in protest or in significance of something. But this lady, one of Ken's advisors, basically told me that it's because of all the bikers who have ridden out together that the government can't just do as it pleases and even though it doesn't seem like it sometimes, every one of our aftermarket exhausts HAS been heard.

I got on my bike , enjoyed every second of my ride home and i'll be seeing you all at the next ride out.


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an intersting & informative evening. Did you at least to get to 'popadop' the clever & pretty advisor?

Posted: 10/01/2008 at 11:19


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I like this article Jimbo; gives me a good excuse to get off my arse and head for the ride outs

Posted: 14/01/2008 at 12:56

Thanks for sharing that with us Jimbo. Gives all of us who ride in London an interesting insight into what may lurk ahead and why, and reminds us what everyday people think of bikers/ biking (in this case government agency employees). Hopefully the psychologists  will have a positive impact, but we'll probably be paying congestion charge by then!

I love the bit about our "affinity, comraderie, and sense of togetherness". I'll drink to that. It's refreshing that in this day and age a relatively small group of people sharing the same passion can have an impact on government decisions.


Posted: 23/01/2008 at 00:53

Great article.

I don't live in London and at the moment don't have the threat of a congestion charge... but it is only a matter of time! The fact that bikes do not contribute to congestion rarely figures in the thoughts of politicians. They are only interested in statistics. These say that bikes are dangerous and accidents involving them are more likely to be serious (or fatal even) than those involving cars alone. What they fail to take into account is that the accident rate would be dramatically reduced if we reduced the number of cars! While there are a number of bikers who seem to confuse the road with racetrack and ride around like an extra from "Mad Max" they are the minority (probably due to their own ignorance of the risks they take) and the vast majority of bikers treat city driving with the respect it requires. Reducing the cars will never completely eradicate motorcycle accidents but it will reduce them substantially.

Touching on one of Jimbo's points about employers being unwilling to embrace bikes, we do have one forward thinking employer up here in Leeds. Our NHS Trust has limited car parking resources and issues staff with parking permits according to need. Those staff who qualify for a permit have to pay for the privilage (not sure exactly how much but £30-£40 sort of thing). However if that person comes in on a bike, powered or pedal, they can give up their permit and park for free with one big bonus. They can purchase a "book of tickets" that allows them to use their car for a certain number of days per year to cope with really bad weather, illness, injuries etc. The only draw back is they have to purchase their entire allowance of tickets up front (unused ones are reimbursed at the end of the year).

This has to be one of the best bits of joined up thinking to come from a major employer ever.

My own employer does allow us to use bikes for business, we can even use our car allowance to buy them! They also provide covered bike parking at most of their sites. This is one the largest companies in the world so thankfully not all employers are completely anti bike!


Posted: 18/03/2008 at 10:00

Thanks for the comments. It's great to hear that there's some decent companies out there actually doing what seems right and sensible.

Without getting all hippy-like: Perception is a large percentage of reality (i.e. if it looks green to you it's your reality, if it looks blue to someone else, it's their reality) and people's perception of motorbikes is massively tainted due to a lack of real information combined with their own ignorance...

Glad this is not your case, it seems we're all on the up with companies like yours...

Cheers, Jimbo

Posted: 18/03/2008 at 13:53

In terms of congestion it is true that bikes take up far less room than a car, but do need more space.  You try riding as close to hundreds of bikes as we drive next to hundreds of cars, I for one am not happy riding a few feet from another bike.

On whether it is better to bike than drive.  My bike (VMax) is only just better on petrol than the car.  I can only take 1 passenger and the car can hold 6, a set of tyres for the car is  just a tad more expensive than a pair for the bike, the car gets an oil change every 20k the bike barely manages 4k.  I could go on

If you look at it logically, and you could get everyone to carshare, then bikes are not the way to end congestion.

They're just more fun.


Posted: 13/04/2008 at 00:54


Is there some mileage in setting up a VD rideout to London ?

Nothing threatening, just a show of how, when we want to, bikers can pull together a lot of people when we want to. Bums on seats matter to the political flunkies.

We can do it one of two ways;

1- Register it with the police forces en route and the Met in London, agree a route, blah, blah, blah. Lots of meetings, lots of wasted time and red tape. 

2- Flashmob it, make it a spontaneous event, people come together, ride, depending on numbers, go to The Ace for lunch or summat, chill out, then disperse back home. No agg, no big thing, no demo, just a big ride out for the sake of it. Get enough people and it will make the news.

 Any takers for a Saturday one week in 2008 ?


Posted: 23/04/2008 at 23:32

Nick Hendley: That's just an awkward statement, and yes; if everyone were you, then bikes wouldn't be the answer. I don't mean it rudely:

A standard economical saloon holds 5 people and uses more petrol than a standard economical bike.

An r1 uses a fair bit of petrol. A porsche/ferrari holds 2 people and uses a shit load more petrol than the r1.

People don't car share and in london there are as many 'fancy' cars as there are economical cars.

It's all relative, so if you were to compare your vmax, you'd have to compare it to a muscle car i guess for the post to have a point.. I've never seen a muscle car in london with more than 2 people in it and i know they use a shit load more petrol than a vmax.

The young lady mentioned was a road traffic adviser in Shanghai before London, and bikes have been the answer there. It would actually be less fun riding with bikes everywhere but to say they're not the answer with a bias argument and an unrealistic view of car-pooling is just silly.


Supafurry: Sound brilliant mate, count me in. It's good Boris is in now for the mere reason we'll all be able to drive in bus lanes. Don't know any of the lot on here though so don't know if you do?

Posted: 06/05/2008 at 09:37


Yeah, glad Ken's been binned, he's quite mad you know ?

I'll knock up a new thread on general forums and see what interest there would be for a spontaneous meet up in town one sunny weekend.... watch this space !


Posted: 06/05/2008 at 10:05

I'm convinced these petitions do more harm than good?  Just gives the Government more ammunition on the lines of "A petition on this matter only attracted less than 2000 signatures" etc etc

Posted: 06/05/2008 at 10:34

Everyone knows that only a small percentage of any demographic ever turns up to a meet. Everyone thinks, "we're not going to make a difference" and don't bother. Therein lies the problem. Imagine every biker all of a sudden coming together in a unheard spout of mass-optimism We'd definitely have our say.

Posted: 06/05/2008 at 10:51


Jimbo,

 I think burty is right a lot of time, but I'll post something, guage interest and then see what happens when the weather looks good so all the fair weather types don't get rain spots on their chrome parts...


Posted: 15/05/2008 at 13:30

God forbid

Posted: 15/05/2008 at 13:36

I've never seen a muscle car in london with more than 2 people in it and i know they use a shit load more petrol than a vmax.

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Posted: 22/09/2008 at 08:56

So, the bus lanes thing is what I always thought.

There arguments are:

1) You slow down traffic... Well, im going faster than a ten ton bus or a peddle powerd bike

2) It is to do with stoppping more cars and getting people on busses... So why are Taxis alowed to use bus lanes? Surely they use twice as much fuel and cause twice as much congestion as a car. I realy don't understand why Taxis are in bus lanes. They also have a habit of stopping wherever they want, even if there is a line of busses behindm as long as it saves them time.

3) Cyclists will be less safe/feel less safe... Be less safe? Compared to the aformentiond ten ton bus overtaking them? As long as they ride safly they will be fine. Unlike a car we care about hitting cyclists, if only because we will be off as much as they are, with a large bike on our legs. Feel less safe? So? I probably shoulden't bring this up, but if someone dosen't feel safe on a bike, even though statistics show thay are, then they should walk..

Now I know this is nothing to do with these arguments, but to do with Buses, Taxis, and the cycle lobby, wanting to keep there toys to themselfs.


Posted: 21/01/2009 at 13:53

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