Stoner to ride at Brno...

What a moaner, right guys?

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 10:12

No one has EVER bashed his riding. It's the swollen mouth.

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 10:29

Why wouldn't he, he rode @ Indy ?

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 11:16

Did you read the article Timpster?

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 11:40

The cynic in me does want to see that injured leg is actually Stoner's leg...

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 11:53

Exactly, not one of us bashed his riding ability or style. And I for one tip my hat to him for doing this. Given his imminent leaving, if I was in his shoes, I'd probably have told HRC to do one.

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 11:57

What is it with you "tough" Brits???

You'd criticize Stoner all day long, even if he was half way dead, regardless what he does or doesn't do.

For me, you are really the moaners who constantly whine about him. Grow up, for crying out loud.

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 12:36

MotoGP is motorcycle racing. It is not a finishing school. This obsession with his personality is weird. I blame the internet.

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 13:25

MXS, I'm gonna go ahead and guess aussie? Again, no one's ever knocked his ability on a bike, stop me if this is getting too technical. and since you seem hell bent on throwing mud....can I ask exactly what it is in aussie sportsmen that makes them so bloody aloof to the point of rudeness?

For my money, we're not the ones that need to "grow up"............

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 13:59

Joel,

Where have you been ? its a brave new world where celebrities communicate to their fans on a personal level through social networking sites along with the usual press releases, if your going to communicate at a personal level to the public, then you run the risk of not being liked

Stoner is very quick to complain about the things and the people he doesnt like, so surely fans of MOTOGP be they British or not should also be allowed to complain about the things and people they dont like

I am British and i also do not like him for the way hes quick to put others down, its not sporting

however he can the fcuk out of a motorcycle!

as for his injury, yes its looks painful but before we go saying how wonderful he is ...we should also bare in mind that Lorenzo rode with 2 broken ankles and didnt make half the fuss!

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 14:00

Hey, lets not compare injuries. I´ve seen 11 years old girls with broken bones not even complaining or saying that it hurts and I´ve sustained small injuries that looked nothing but just couldn´t use that limb. It´s like with common colds, some people have to stay in bed a week, others just go on with their lives, it affects people in different ways.

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 14:49

"some people have to stay in bed a week, others just go on with their lives, it affects people in different ways."

my sentiments exactly, there are those that get on with it and those that make a song and dance

couldnt have put it better my self eu tu :O)

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 15:32

Yup, I think that sums it up, et tu. Just as a quick aside someone on Twitter posted a picture of an x-ray of Hutchy's leg at the TT this year. OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

And he just got on with it.

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 15:43

I'm happy to see that Stoner is taking to the grid at Brno. I hope his health improves because it would be a shame to not see him on the track.

Stoner once said after signing with Repsol that he appreciated the oppurtunity to be with the team because of Repsol and Mick Doohan racing together in the past. I guess this overcoming this injury just ties him that much closer to the teams lineage!

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 16:36

Yes, I also can't understand theese threads about Casey's personality as very low amount of people could meet him personaly. For me it's internet bad side but also Valentino made this image same as Lorenzo's. The best thing is when mind games are focused strictly around racing and not around personalities. Vale is (or was) strong on that kind of bashing till he went to Ducati to feel it's all about racing. Now if he has a plan to back to his old games he has his successor in Lorenzo. And Lorenzo has and will have everything under control so fair play or again brutal war.

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 23:33

Swollen mouth? Really? All bikers have a go at each other, that's the sport. Rossi, Pedrosa etc etc, theyve all had their altercations. I find Stoners words very insightful. I assume you're all referring to him complaining about slower riders blocking qualifying laps and the time he 'punched' de Puniet? So what, its probably true. One thing I cant stand in bike racing is the news friendly words, "bike went well, team did good, thanks". Troy Corser was the worsed at this, appalling interviews. I dont even listen to the interview if Pedrosa or Lorenzo are on the podium, its like listening to a post football match interview, very very dull. Stoner has something to say, he gives excellent insight to what's going on, even if he has a go at someones riding style or whatever, and Id'd prefer that anyday. You know if Stoner does feel ' hard done by' as I think a lot of you complain about, I think its quite relevant. His whole career he played second fiddle to Pedrosa in attention stakes, when he knew he was better than him. When in the 250's at Phillip Island, I think it was, he said, "I just want to go out there and show everybody Danni's not as good as what everybody says he is". thems fighting words. What a brilliant statement, hardly non-sportsman like. Pedrosa cried in response. The only reason stoner got the ducati ride was because he was cheap. He had to ignore all the hype about Danni, who was heiled as the best bike racer ever, and prove it himself. Gives one the right to be a bit bitter, but I dont think he is at all.

Oh, the Rossi Leguna Seca incident? I liked his whinge at the end, I loved Rossi's move too, then Rossi saying on Italian TV, "stoner was like a snivelling child, that was an epic race." All brilliant, it's what we want, not Pedrosa and Lorenzo riding around 6 seconds apart and saying thanks to the team, bike was good.

Posted: 22/08/2012 at 23:59

Pagik,

I am as much Aussie as you are Stoner fan. I just cannot fathom the obsession of criticizing constantly the one and the same guy.

I don't care whether Vale is playing his mind games with Stoner, or trying to put a hard ass move on him at the track. That's all good and I can watch that all day long.

The fact remains and always will that Stoner's outspoken mentality will be missed. Why? Because all the other guys sound the same, never say much, not only what they think, but also from technical standpoint explaining what was going on in the race (part of it is the barrier language and laziness of the Italian and Spanish guys to learn English on a bit higher level than a kindgarden; but the other part is what one is willing to say or explain). But that is true only if you are a fan of the sport, not just 46 or some other number. If you were, you quit getting on Stoner's case all the time and enjoy all you can get from every rider .... don't come back saying that the Internet is to be blamed as some are suggesting here. The Internet is only what people make it out to be.

Posted: 23/08/2012 at 01:21

No I cant fathom it either mxs, it's all a bit silly really.

Posted: 23/08/2012 at 01:45

dude stoner gets on every other riders case. wtf is up with that? you say the other riders dont say much, and their level of english aint too good, i say fuck that, , , if u gna judge them on their ability to speak, i suggest you stick to social networking dude.

it is impossible to hate casey, specially after all he brings to this sport, however, he talks down the rest of the grid like its nothing. show me another rider who crits fellow riders as much as he does?!

bradl, the lad is riding brilliantly, stoner reckons its coz HE made mistakes that caused bradl to get such results. i dont know how much truth is in that, but ffsakes?! who says shit like this?? please get my point im tryin to make. this is no personal attack on ur beloved stoner.

Posted: 23/08/2012 at 07:31

Evil Ken: I appreciate your point. But I think when Stoner criticises he is objective, and can be because of his unique vantage point. He'll comment on others riding and engineering ability, as well as team politics, which he has had first hand experience of. His attacks are generally not of a personal nature.

MXS: The internet is fine, yes, but with it comes this intense and unnatural focus on certain people to the point of absurdity. I dare say if most people were under such a microscope, we'd all look like pricks. Which is why, as pyndman has well pointed out, we get people shutting down and being less candid and honest than we'd like them to be. It's a modern phenomenon I think that focuses more on the personality and less on what one does and achieves. It turns people into phonies. It is no coincidence that Stoner is retiring to "get a real job" on the farm and get away from the circus* that is GP racing.

*I love circuses

Posted: 23/08/2012 at 07:44

No, mxs, cannot be a true fan of the sport because I happen to like Valentino. You are dead right there............

*walks off shaking head*, and leaves it at that. Arguing on the internet..............

Posted: 23/08/2012 at 08:26

Most people here have good points.

You definitely can't hate stoner for his riding and no one here has said they don't like his riding. All agreed.

I'm not a Rossi fan (don't mind either way) so I'm not offended by comments about Rossi.

I too prefer something interesting being said rather than "bike good".

So I think it boils down to the fact that to ME -He seems unthankful and ungracious about the sport which I absolutely love. There's problems in all sports, be it holds up in qualifying through to politics. EVERY other rider has to deal with EXACTLY the same gripes.

Other riders say "It was busy, so I got a bit held up" and Stoner punches De Puniet on the arm. Can you IMAGINE if that were the other way around? Even the commentators remark on Stoner's double standards.

Every rider has to deal with politics. Stoner bashes the sport that's given him everything and quits.

He said he wants to show that Pedrosa isn't as good as everyone says he is. This is a perfect example. Why can't Pedrosa actually be allowed to be that good? Why can't he acknowledge it and just make sure he's better? Why can't he congratulate Bradl on his performance rather than say he was only good because of "Me crashing out"?

Stoner is on record winning because someone else crashed out and inferring that they made a mistake and he didn't so he was the better rider on the day. So Bradl wasn't the better rider, that only happens if it happens to Stoner??

I don't find anything he says informative. I find it generally quite obvious, whiny and generally about either excusing his not coming first or bashing MotoGP. Politics? Shock horror!! Holds ups? Only for you and no one else? Shock horror!! MotoGP is superior (i.e. "I'm superior) to Moto2 and Marquez will have to adapt his style? Shock horror!! Please enlighten me more.

Posted: 23/08/2012 at 10:31

I think you've hit the snail on the leg there Maverick.

Posted: 23/08/2012 at 12:13

Just about covers it ,how ever with VR going back to Yamaha,2013 could have been more interesting with Stoner still on the grid,all the bitching would have settled on the track..

With crutchlow stitched up by Dukaudi is there a spare Honda kicking around ? 

Posted: 24/08/2012 at 20:38