Stoner: 'Rossi didn't put the effort in'

Casey, stop getting all bitter about VR. You are leaving, why exactly does this put your nose so out of shape?

Yeah, he's had to eat a lot of his words, and yes, people do forgive him for it. Ever stopped to think WHY that is?

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 14:50

Agree with Pagik.. For such a young man, with an outstanding history of performance e success, Stoner seems incapable of overcoming past criticism and gossip. A champion behaving like an angry kid.. He should spend more time with grown-ups like Hayden...

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 14:52

I agree with you both, just because some of what he says is right, it doesn't mean that he should say it to the press after proclaiming that he hates the media.

I honestly think Stoner feels he has to constantly prove himself, which is why the media comments about him being on the best bikes at their time and his illness has got to him and now he is retiring.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 14:57

I hope Stoner realises that personal attacks such as these will harm him more than Rossi. Nothing he can possibly say will alter Rossi's achievements one bit, but it will certainly diminish his legacy, thin as it may be already.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 15:07

Why is anyone surprised? Stoner was always a spoiled little whiner no matter how good a rider he is, and this is exactly the sort of thing you expect to hear from him. Next season we'll be shot of him and the grown ups will be riding instead.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 15:23

..its a pity if you read the complete interview...that its actually all true...no Italian fluff & PR speak...but if thats what you like..dont change the VR46 channel !!

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 15:27

It is such a shame that someone (Stoner) with all that talent has all the character of an arsehole when he opens his mouth.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 15:29

No one's denying that it's true Nick. For sure it is, but the point being made here is that after Casey's VERY public announcement of his hatred for the Moto GP circus to then turn around and start throwing stones like this after all he's said, in my opinion, just makes him look silly.

As for the Italian fluff and PR speak, remind me again of just how many Italians CS took with him to HRC? And I'm just wondering how many times he kept his mouth shut about how awful that Desmocidici was to ride?

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 15:46

I'm not really a rossi fan but this just seems absolute nonsense to me.

As Pagik and others mentioned in another post, the type of tyres being developed, the rules in place in MotoGP, the bike cc all have a massive effect on whether a bike can perform well with the way it's been developed.

I wonder if Stoner could win on the Ducati now with the current rules and setup of MotoGP?

So does Hayden not try? Did the previous failures on Ducatis not try? Wow, I guess that makes Stoner a real hero... Or at least he's desperate for people to think that.

Also, if he thought the Ducati was a winning machine why did HE ditch them for Honda???!!!!

I can't wait until he just fucks off. He's won twice and the little cry baby thinks of himself as a legend.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 16:02

Rossi replied on Twitter "Always very nice my friend Casey ha ha ha"

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 16:36

I don't think it's actually got anything to do with CS being a whinger, or a cry baby, or any of the other things we (including me) chucks at him.

I think he's just a polar opposite of VR. Casey just wants to race bikes, fair enough, he's a bike racer. But, there's more that goes along with it all now.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 16:41

I think it all comes down to the fact he has a girl's name.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 16:43

Jeez I'll be glad to see the back of Stacey Moaner!
If he's not having a whinge about race marshalls or making excuses as to why he fell off, he's slagging off other riders!
Doesn't matter how factual his statement is, it's just plain disrespectful - even 'You're Gay' Lorenzo has taken his head out of his arse and now gives grown up interviews which are respectful of his fellow riders!
Just retire gracefully instead of having everyone remember you as a moaning bitch!!

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 16:45

I dont think Stoner is just in it for the racing or he wouldnt say these things, he is a dick but still wants everyone to love him like they love Rossi and he is sooo bitter that no-one does.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 16:50

I think it is laughable that people continue to print his statements. In all fairness though, I guess I might be the same way if I spent the majority of my time in GP getting Bitch slapped on the track by Rossi! His bitterness is so strong, he is not mature enough to handle it. There can only be one person crossing the finish line first and its usually not someone else's fault. Unfortunately, GP will be better without him. Its a shame though because he truly can ride a bike like no one else.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 17:04

Being quite young i've never seen MotoGP where Rossi has actually been any good.

Heard equal amounts of moaning off all the riders.

My Dad likes Rossi but he also likes soap operas and other stuff from the past.

Are you guys not proud that Stoner came to Britain and raced and developed up to where he is ?

I think it says a lot about how good British bike racing is.

I cant wait until Redding, Webb, Espargaro, Iannone, Marquez, Bradl are battling it out in GP.

I don't like Hector Barberas eyebrows.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 17:12

I'd keep your opinions to yourself and go and ask your dad why VR is rated as among the greatest motorcycle racers the world ever saw. Ya cheeky little scamp.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 17:23

Kev Fox was born yesterday.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 17:48

I suppose two bad seasons out of what... 17 isn't so bad now is it? Perhaps Casey will get to that point.. Aha, no he wont, anyway I digress.

Kev, I suppose that might be missed a little with your age, but to fill you in, Lets compare Rossi/Stoner on their first 6 years in the premier class. Rossi had 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st. Casey had 8th, 1st, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 1st.

Looking at those stats, that's why people regard Vale as being a bit special. Now being fair, history 'might' have been different had Casey hopped straight on a Honda, but he didn't.

Pagik hits it on the head with this;

Pagik - "No one's denying that it's true Nick. For sure it is, but the point being made here is that after Casey's VERY public announcement of his hatred for the Moto GP circus to then turn around and start throwing stones like this after all he's said, in my opinion, just makes him look silly."

Casey continually comes across as someone who tries to use the media when it suites, but more often than not, makes a total arse of it.

Nearly all of his public shots have been at Valentino, nearly all of them. I think Valentino, without even trying, winds Casey up, and I think it's also part of the reason he's retiring.

I think he hates the fact that, despite failing miserably at Ducati, no one really laughed, no one said Valentino is crap, no one started worshiping Casey as the great Rossi slayer, nothing. The world just carried on, they watched the failure, but everyone wanted it to turn around. And while all this dominated the headlines, Casey went around and won a world title, which was a small side-story to the ongoing Ducati/Valentino issues.

To add insult to injury, Valentino, running around in 6th place, slagging the bike that Casey won on, got paid a ton more than Casey did for winning the championship.

I think a lot of the issues Casey has are self made, and quite a few are over spilt milk.

I'll miss the way he rides a bike, it's absolutely spectacular, he basically puts it into a position where most riders consider it 'crashed', he then rides it out of that state time after time after time. His riding is something special and I will miss it, but I won't miss the guy, I would dearly like him to seem to give some sort of a s**t about the fanbase that help keep the championship going, the fans that pay £75+ at the gates to watch the races, the fans that buy bikes, clothing and other bits. It'd be nice, if perhaps he could just say hi to some of the guys that visit him, but apparently it's too much. That's the side of Casey I honestly wont miss, and if his personality has been misinterpreted, then I'm sorry, because pretty much the media world-over, must have got this guy wrong...

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 17:48

Stoner is right about the 80 seconds quote.

Burgess and Rossi have had at least twice that, maybe even more, ;-) and they still couldn't get the Ducati onto THE PODIUM in the dry.

Casey was winning on the bike in 2010, Rossi/Burgess took the same bike and couldn't get a 3rd in the dry. Every time Rossi goes out on the Ducati he makes Stoner look better and better.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 18:08

A faily pointless comment from Stacey. It was Stacey who initiated the changes in the Ducati in the first place. He then gave Ducati less than satisfactory results in 08 and 09, then decides to go to Honmda, without having solved the new bike's problems. Sound familiar.

I think he should go back to Auz with the Olympic and cricket teams, swat some flies and determine why after all these years of calling the British Whinging Poms, it is Auzzies who have now won the title.

His talent and mouth are inversely capable unfortunately.

is he right. Well I guess that depends on whether you think trying to turn an Italian L4 into a Japanese inline 4 is a good development route.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 18:08

I'd just like to add that I used to think Rossi was the "GOAT", but I don't believe he is anymore. I think that honour rests with Ago.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 18:09

Good on you Stoner.
Having the balls to speak the truth.
VR took the money and didn't earn it.... only bitched.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 18:12

I read this somewhere else but it pretty much sums the situation up perfectly.

Colin Edwards has the balls to speak his mind but he does it in a humourous and likable way. Stoner on the other hand just comes across as a bitchy little moaner and he wonders why people dislike him when he acts like a 15 year old.

His parents gave up their entire lives for his career and moved to the other side of the world and sunk all their hard earned cash into him. No wonder hes such a spoilt moaning little tosser.

Its just a shame that somebody with his pure talent seems so negative about everyone and eerything around him.

And as for saying that rossi has done nothing but complain. pot kettle black jsu doesn't seem to cover it. Somebody REALLY needs to sit down with him and tell him to zip his mouth because what he says just makes him look absolutly ridiculous. But like ive already said. from how he's been given everything he want whilest growing up i can't imagine he takes friendly hints like that without having a temper tantrum.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 18:16

for a guy who is quitting he sure whines a lot. Yeah Rossi didn't deliver on Ducati, but hes a proven winner and NICE GUY. Stoner on the other hand is a moaner and he's leaving the sport with many years left simply because no one like him. Even the corner works!

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 19:07

@Ben Spies 2, Rossi is a NICE GUY? Or just someone who turns on the NICE GUY image when a camera appears...? I've met him, and he didn't smile until the lenscap came off the DSLR. He's a great rider and a great showman, but don't for one minute think that his carefully crafted media image is the reality. Stoner may be a moaner, but I think what you see is what you get. He doesn't care so much about shifting product as riding the bike.

The fact remains that Stoner's last 6 races on the Ducati yielded three wins and one second place. Please bear in mind this was after he knew he would be leaving Ducati and he was still giving it 100%. (His worst position on that bike in 2010 was 5th) Rossi has been unable to match that performance in two years, go only knows how poor his results are going to be now the Yamaha deal is announced.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 19:40

While I agree with all the posters that Stoner just plain is not a likeable guy, and I always pull for him to get beat. That being said, it will be a shame to have the "best" riders in the world competing in Motogp next year without one of the greatest talents on a bike ever.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 19:40

Yeah, what ever Casey. very professional comments again. and once again showing your true character.


he should take lessons from Jorge,hes got caseys number this year. out classed out gunned and why? because this year Stoner does not have a faster bike and cannot hack it when someone challenges him on equal footing.

ill be honest when the moaning twat isnt whinging hes a good rider but but his comments are cringe worthy and are an embarrasment to him self.....when he becomes an adult and realizes what a knob hes been and realizes just how fortunate a life hes had ....he might become a likable person ..

but then again some people are born knobs and die knobs,

Adios Skippy i dont think your comments will be missed by anyone ..except the knobs!

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 20:09

No matters how good both VR and Stoner can be, the fact is that VR is a much nicer guy (irrelevant if only in front of cameras, as he won´t invite me for dinner anyway..) while Stoner looks like the most talented rider in history to behave like a prick... No matter how true Casey´s comments are, his personal style simply makes his remarks pointless... And, frankly, the more he does it, the more VR looks nicer!! Poor kid!!

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 20:37

Why stoner has to open his mouth in something that won't concern him next year..is laughable....I don't remember Rossi having a go at Stoner when he had the mystery illness or whatever you want to believe, and he took time out from racing. Stoner is and always will be a moaning git, always blaming others or his machine. Rossi has huge talent on both two wheels and four,so why not go back to a team he can win with...shows he still has the passion to win, unlike stoner who wants to retire and hump kangaroo's....lol

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 21:51

"Oho!" said the pot to the kettle;
"You are dirty and ugly and black!
Sure no one would think you were metal,
Except when you're given a crack."

"Not so! not so!" kettle said to the pot;
"'Tis your own dirty image you see;
For I am so clean – without blemish or blot –
That your blackness is mirrored in me."

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 22:24

Mr. Stoner, I'm not feeling the love here. Would you like to talk about it?

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 23:22

Was Matt Mladin hidden in the background somewhere, holding queue cards for Stoner to read aloud whilst being interviewed by the media?

Honestly, who cares? Stoner isn't oblivious to what people think of him as a public figure and in a couple of months he is going to be out of GP. Why not vent and ruffle some feathers before you slip away into oblivion? As soon as Rossi gets back on the YZR, whatever Stoner has to say really won't matter.

Posted: 15/08/2012 at 23:29

You blokes pick up a few soundbites and slag a guy's entire character. It's hilarious.

Almost as funny as Kev Fox's comments. So true. Any kid who started taking an interest in MotoGP sometime in the past couple of years would be thinking, "This Rossi bloke is kidding himself".

Posted: 16/08/2012 at 00:11

Soundbites?? His entire career he's been whining about stuff that every other rider has just dealt with.

He's leaving coz he doesn't like the way motogp is going? It's going the same way for EVERYONE else and they're still fighting..

Like most people are saying: I'll miss his riding but I won't miss him. He's just like a petulant child to me. If he didnt care about the sport, why is he trying to ruffle feathers now?

Posted: 16/08/2012 at 00:20

Perhaps he's not trying to ruffle feathers, but was asked for his opinion and he gave it honestly.

Stoner bitches about the sport, yes, but he still goes out and rides the wheels off whatever is underneath him. He gets jack of all the bullshit, so retires prematurely for those reasons he has previously and constantly stated. Sounds like a man of integrity to me!

Posted: 16/08/2012 at 01:04

So many haters criticising. Ironic.

I like Stoner and I like Rossi. Actually, I love motoGP so I don't give much weight to articles designed to do exactly what it's clearly done....get attention.

Posted: 16/08/2012 at 01:36

In 20 years from now Rossi will be remembered as a fraud who couldn’t ride the Ducati.
Stoner, unlike the PR clones, has the balls to speak the truth. What is funny is the myriad of English-Sheep-Shaggers who attack Stoner simply because he beats Rossi. That is what it comes down to and is the reason Stoner suddenly started to be a figure of 'hate' since 2007.
Next year Lorenzo will be the figure of hate for the Ross-fangirls, simply for daring to beat Rossi.
In the one aspect of MotoGP that really matter, the best at riding a bike, Stoner walks all over Rossi. Of course, that part of MotoGP is not imporant to the Rossi fans, not compared to PR manufactured clown shows with Rossi at the healm.

Posted: 16/08/2012 at 02:12

Everyone is seeming to bag Casey for speaking his mind I admire him he is not afraid to speak out you seem to forget when Rossi bagged stoner for leaving ducati he said stoner couldnt ride it but it seems that Rossi has givin up, Rossi must eat his words Casey is a talented rider who has proven to the world that he is a talented rider

Posted: 16/08/2012 at 02:52

@Dean Dan
"In 20 years from now Rossi will be remembered as a fraud who couldn’t ride the Ducati."

are you fuckin kidding me? seriously?

And for everyone who says they admire stoner for speaking his mind... Sometimes in life you have to use a little thing called your brain/mouth filter which helps you act like an adult. If you don't do this you fire off abusive, disrespectful and rude comments about people around you. Its not classy, its not clever and it makes you sound like an inbred with no social skills.
Speaking your mind and being honest is no good when you have no tact and lack teh ability to engage with people like an adult.

If somebody asked stoner about rossi/ducati blah blah blah all he has to say is something like 'yeah its clear that vale doesn't get on well with the ducati and i think maybe he should give it another year. Hes been making some noise about wanting new parts to work with but its not really my place to comment about another teams way of working. i wish them all the best to try and figure it out but honestly i can't see how it will work out'
But ooooooh no not our casey. yet again he vomits up somemore abusive and ill conceved bitter sounding bullshit making him look even more infantile than he already did.

I don't see anyone else in the paddock running their mouth like casey does? and if they do its not disrespectful and targeted like he seems to be.

And another thing. Nobody is suggesting stoner isn't hugely talented because its obvious that he is. Its his stinking crybaby, world revolves around me spoilt little child attitude that people hate so you can give up with adding thats hes a good rider etc etc etc on the end of everything as if to try and defend his bullshit.

If you admire people like casey then i feel sorry for you.

Posted: 16/08/2012 at 03:58