Stoner ends Jerez test on top

Reigning MotoGP Champion stamps his authority ahead of the 2012 season

Posted: 26 March 2012
by Visordown News

CASEY STONER has continued his control of pre-season testing by ending the final winter test at Jerez on top of the timesheets.

The reigning champion lapped the Spanish circuit in 1:38.780, logging the time in the final ten minutes of the session to head Factory Yamaha rider Jorge Lorenzo by 0.173.

Following in third was Stoner's Repsol Honda team-mate Dani Pedrosa, 0.377 behind with Ben Spies in fourth on the second factory YZR-M1.

Tech 3 Yamaha's Cal Crutchlow demonstrated further impressive form by placing the fifth quickest time and ending as the top satellite rider, finishing within a second of Stoner's best and ahead of Valentino Rossi.

Rossi had a fluctuating time at the Jerez test, finishing worryingly over 1.5 seconds adrift of the Australian's best on the opening day. The final day proved to be more positive as the Italian scrapped his new settings for the old on his factory Desmosedici GP12, ending the three days in sixth and .8 from Stoner.

Of the CRT machines, Randy de Puniet was the fastest on the Aspar Aprilia bike with a best time of 1:40.6 in tenth. The Frenchman was 1.8 seconds behind Stoner's best time.

The skeptics of the new class will have additional ammo, as six of the production-based machines lapped slower than the best Moto2 time of 1:41.983, set by Claudio Corti earlier in the week.

MotoGP returns to race action on April 8th at Losail, Qatar. Click here for the 2012 MotoGP calendar.

MotoGP Jerez Final test Day 3 results:

1 Casey Stoner Repsol Honda Team 1:38.780 (61)
2 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing 1:38.953 +0.173 (84)
3 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 1:39.157 +0.377 (73)
4 Ben Spies Yamaha Factory Racing 1:39.495 +0.715 (61)
5 Cal Crutchlow Monster Yamaha Tech3 1:39.585 +0.805 (79)
6 Valentino Rossi Ducati Team 1:39.733 +0.953 (87)
7 Andrea Dovizioso Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:39.860 +1.080 (72)
8 Nicky Hayden Ducati Team 1:39.919 +1.139 (88)
9 Alvaro Bautista San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:40.017 +1.237 (85)
10 Stefan Bradl LCR Honda 1:40.098 +1.318 (84)
11 Hector Barbera Pramac Racing Team 1:40.287 +1.507 (88)
12 Karel Abraham Cardion AB Motoracing 1:40.579 +1.799 (87)
13 Randy de Puniet Power Electronics Aspar 1:40.601 +1.821 (71)
14 Aleix Espargaro Power Electronics Aspar 1:41.645 +2.865 (69)
15 Danilo Petrucci Came Iodaracing Project 1:41.926 +3.146 (87)
16 Franco Battaini Ducati Team 1:42.057 +3.277 (85)
17 Colin Edwards NGM Mobile Forward Racing 1:42.073 +3.293 (58)
18 Mattia Pasini Speed Master 1:42.184 +3.404 (59)
19 Michele Pirro San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:42.212 +3.432 (52)
20 James Ellison Paul Bird Motorsport 1:42.437 +3.657 (82)
21 Ivan Silva Avintia Racing MotoGP 1:42.446 +3.666 (81)
22 Yonny Hernandez Avintia Racing MotoGP 1:42.906 +4.126 (56)

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No surprise, been top on every test, looks like another title for Casey unless Jorge can mix it up with him.

Posted: 26/03/2012 at 10:07

Nah,

Jorge's gonna stick it to him this year the fastest time was set in the dieing moments of the session and is only +0.173

Jorges up for a fight if you ask me

Posted: 26/03/2012 at 10:50

Yup, I'd agree that Jorge's gonna take it to Casey this year. Good to see that the Duke is FINALLY going in the right direction again. I was seriously worried on Friday evening....

:D

Posted: 26/03/2012 at 11:10

Also, need to give a shout out to Mr Crutchlow. Stunning job.

Posted: 26/03/2012 at 11:19

Jorge has just got to do what Rossi did and make sure he makes Stoner race for the wins... If he does that, I reckon he'll take it... Stoner hates racing..

GREAT JOB Crutchow!!!

Posted: 26/03/2012 at 11:22

i was gonna say the same thing about Stoner having to race but i didnt wanna get shot down

but i agree maverick ...well said!

Posted: 26/03/2012 at 11:29

Not bad for rossi really, long way from the top 3 but not far from spies at 4th. Also not bad for Ducati with a brand new concept (well the japanese old one) for them.

Otherwise much the same as last year, (minus the sad absence of 58)the top 3. jorge seems to be on it. He was doing sub 40s on day one apparently quite conistently.

Posted: 26/03/2012 at 11:41

maverick, "stoner hates racing". Im not sure what youve been watching for the last 9 or so years, but Stoner dont hate racing (meaning mixing it up of course) at all. the guys mad, hes a true racer. Goodness gracious some of you folk have funny ideas

Posted: 26/03/2012 at 11:45

Mmmm, I have to agreed with pyndman. Stoner isn't scared of getting stuck in, never has been. The only person that's usually levelled at is Dani...and even then it's incorrect (IMO).

Posted: 26/03/2012 at 11:48

Ok, maybe 'hates' was too strong a phrase. When Rossi employed his tactic of getting to the front early though, it seemed to rattle Stoner.. All I'm saying is that Jorge has got do the same, because once Stoner is off, he's off... When's he's made to race, the outcome is never certain..

Posted: 26/03/2012 at 12:56

Yamaha seem very confident and happy with their setup and I did hear somewhere that the tyres will definitely go off in the final laps, hopefully adding a bit of excitement.

Posted: 26/03/2012 at 14:20

That'll be interesting for Spies, he's great on shredded tyres...

Posted: 26/03/2012 at 17:29

The motorcycles Here are olny limited by the rules and regulations of moto GP .There could be faster bikes made .like 1000cc with YPVS system .Motorsport raceing is for engine and peformance development. (1)Identical motorcyle raceing 'has to stop' (2)order of qualifying speed ' ' (3) Engine configuration ' ' (4) typically For purposes of increasing safety even the speed is regulated too. like wats the diffrents between a 250km/h crash and a 360km/h ?

Posted: 27/03/2012 at 06:15

Ahh, now there Maverick you may have a point. But I actually think one thing that has got Casey to the top is his head strength. He never really gave a flying f about Rossi - if you review his earlier interviews you'll hear it - and has always believed in himself (when the rest of bike world was always Dani this Dani that, Casey new he was better and just waited his time, never let the hype get to him at all).

Posted: 27/03/2012 at 08:24

It's certainly a good point mate. Lets face it, another pig headed aussie bike rider (who'd have thought it)!!!! And I'm not saying this is a bad thing, self belief is compulsory in the top levels of ALL sport.

Posted: 27/03/2012 at 09:07

He's just playing with them ...

Jorge Lorenzo led the session for seven hours and fifty minutes, until Casey Stoner stepped up the pace. Was it so important to stage a last-lap dash and steal top spot, one journalist asked? "Nope, just trying to be cheeky!" The World Champion responded.

He's getting good at the mind games. I guess he learned from the best.

Posted: 27/03/2012 at 12:25

Red Ducati's are better looking than yellow ones and are faster as a consequence. The GP12 IMHO is the first Ducati GP bike with a decent paint job and so it follows that it is faster. Looking at those conering shots on ducatinewstoday, I think there is reason for cautious optimisim. Though Stacey is still the one to beat clearly. I really hope Jorge gives him a hard time because I reckon Jorge is the better rider.
All from 15 onwards are going to have a surprising time, given their laptimes. Better put big mirrors on their bikes. Spies and Crutchlow, stars of the future? Wonder where Simoncelli would have been this year. Danny P, promises much again.
Will F1 be more interesting for the first time ever than MotoGP this year?

Posted: 27/03/2012 at 16:19

"Though Stacey is still the one to beat clearly. I really hope Jorge gives him a hard time because I reckon Jorge is the better rider".

Honestly, do any of you read or even comprehend what you write?
Unbelievable!

Why not just say what you mean... "I hate Stoner, I'm really a Flo fan but too embarrassed to say so after he proved to the world he couldn't develop a rash, so I'll pretend I'm a George fan cause... cause... just cause!

Don't discredit Lorenzo with your false support, he doesn't need fans like that!

Posted: 28/03/2012 at 01:15

Ah bob, nice to have you back :)

I think the difference is 'Flo' fans can admit that Stoner is bloody good (I'm a Flo fan and I just said that!). However, those world championships that Flo achieved weren't by accident. The Ducati is unproved on a world level, Vale is proved (several times) at a world level. The bike as a CF concept has never won a championship and progressively got worse. I also dont blame this on the lack of development skill Stoner has/hasn't got. I blame Ducati for ignoring all those front-end crashes he had. Maybe if they hadn't ignored this for years (remember, Stoner did complain about this as well) then the bike wouldn't have been so far behind when the GP11 came along.

End of the day, Stoner finished 1/2/4/4 with Ducati, he may have been able to put it on the top step, and I admire him for that, but even he admits it was win it or bin it, something he doesn't have to do at Honda.

As for Jorge, well I quite like him as well, I also like Cal and I also think Dani is great, just a little too fragile. I do however think Yamaha have put up good machinery this year. Spies is by no means slow on a 1000, neither is Cal, neither is Dovi.

But if we're talking rider skill, then Jorge put 0.6 of a second on his teammate, Casey only managed 0.4. We can all bend stats to the advantage of our argument cant we.

Lets see how Vale does when they deliver the Alloy frame with the V4 engine rather than the L4 it's currently equipped with.

Posted: 28/03/2012 at 10:36

Your perception of whether the ducati progressively 'got worse', is laughable and very subjective. As the most successful bike/rider combination in the 800 era and the competitiveness of the bike at the end of Stoners ducati tenure, you are clearly not looking at the sport from an enthusiasts point of view.
If you are judging 'success' as confined to only those who win, you are insulting the other 90% of those who compete sometimes under less favorable conditions, but I'm not surprised by your opinion given the high probability you are an english Flo fan.
As for using time gaps between team members to quantify rider skill... you're joking right? You've been watching how long?!... and you still haven't noticed how difficult that last tenth of a second is to achieve?
As for the new engine, well with the Italian marriage likely to be in it's final throes, I can't see too much enthusiasm from the factory given the recent 'direction' given by the worlds best bike developer... all the way from 4th to 7th!

Posted: 29/03/2012 at 07:58

Well bob, you've raised some points, so I feel it's worth answering them rather than writing something stupid.

The Ducati, as the results show, only worked if Stoner rode it at 105% all the time, for the entire race. And occasionally, because he was riding it so hard, he crashed. I dont blame Casey for that, I blame Ducati for not looking to engineer those issues out of the bike. No one else could ride it and that's because no one else dared or had the riding style of casey to take it that far. I do however think one of the major engineering challenges with that bike was getting the CF to work with the Bridgestone tyres that were introduced across the series. If each team could still specify requirements, it would have possibly worked, but as it stands it doesn't work.

The fact that the bike won races was an indication (that we all seen once casey jumped onto a honda) of how hard he was riding, not how good the bike was if setup correctly. The bike was poor, casey just made the best of it and then some.

As for winning/insulting loosers - that's wrong, but were looking at the front here. I think frankly anyone that races a GP bike and is ~2-5 seconds off the front is a damn amazing rider. I worked out that at Donnington, James Toseland was loosing ~000.80th of a second per corner to Rossi, however he was still quite down on the timesheets. The difference between success and failure, when looked at, in detail on each and every corner only shows someone much further down loosing a tiny bit each corner. I respect all riders that compete in GP, and other series - I actively follow BSB and WSBK.

Your sentence - 'between team members to quantify rider skill' and 'still haven't noticed how difficult that last tenth of a second is to achieve' - Exactly, that last tenth is extremely hard to achieve, which is why when you put two guys on the same machine, one floats to the top and is clearly better than the others. Casey generally beats Dani on the Honda, Jorge nearly always beats Ben on the Yamaha, however IMO Dani is still better than Ben. Times can be used as a gauge, because the guys are on the same machine, but only a gauge, it's only all know when it comes down to race day.

And as for the factory loosing faith, it'd appear to be anything but. Ducati are about 75-80% the way through a plan, they've put a bike fresh out the doors that is a second down on a HRC that's had in excess of a years development and came off the back of a very well developed 800cc. I think once they refine that bike and learn more about it - they got ~500 laps from Jerez (about 1300 miles) - then I think we'll quickly see it close gaps.

But thats just my opinion and you're free to fire it down. For the record, I'm English, I am a Rossi fan but have nothing but admiration for Casey along with the other riders. I don't actively 'hate' any rider.

Either way, I want the Ducati working, Having Vale/Casey/Jorge all fighting at the top with Nicky, Dani and Ben also in the scrap is a damn sight more interesting than last year was to watch.

Posted: 29/03/2012 at 14:22

Apologies Rob, the way I read your comment indicated you were saying George is a better rider than Stoner because he gapped his team mate more.
Still don't think they're closer than they could be with the steady evolution of the carbon bike. The difference in times between the last two seasons certainly doesn't show any miracles, and as I've said elsewhere about the current engine, do you think that with the abject failure of the Flo/Burgess/Tobacco millions/Ducati marriage, if there was ANY indication the 90deg 'V' configuration contributed to that failure, it would still be there? Not a chance! It's just an excuse for confused fans to move the blame away from a rider who has been proven to have a narrow skills set when compared to his main rival. And don't start on this 'old man' rubbish, he's only bloody 33!

Posted: 30/03/2012 at 07:45

In honesty, I dont think he's past it yet, and I think results will come, but the nature of the bike is having to significantly change to get that.

My surprise was that Nicky couldn't ride it when he went there. The style of Nicky and Casey, with a dirttrack background as a child I thought would be more beneficial - sliding the back to counter oversteer and being used to a lack of feel/grip on the front. At the end of the day, Casey done this better than anyone.

The style of Vale is very european, it's about track riding, it's about riding on the front wheel and trail braking extremely late, but still hitting the apex. With the feel from that duke it's something he's simply unable to do.

I think the bike doesn't suit his style, or any of the european road racers styles very well. I honestly think people like Casey, Doohan and maybe Troy are about the only ones with the style to get that duke working.

I think if you put Jorge, Dani, Dovi, Spies or even Crutchlow on that Duke they'd all have the same issue.

The question for Ducati is, can they afford to wait for another talented Aussie that can elegantly manhandle a bike around corners, or do they need to make the front work, so a bigger % of riders can get more out of it.

I think they'll do the V4. Yamaha have a forward rolled IL4, no front end issues, Honda have a V4 rolled forward, no front end problems and Ducati has an L4 with two banks of cylinders very far back, they have issues. The engine is a heavy component, and cornering at 100mph+ with it in the wrong place, on a set of tyres developed by Bridgestone, who lets face it cuddled up with Ducati, got Michellin shot in the head, then buggered off to help Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki. Ducati got left out in the cold being the odd, none Japanese, with the most different design. Their bike simply doesn't work with the stock tyre. It's only something like 20-30c cooler than the others, but maybe getting more weight over the front might just do that?

On the old man rubbish, I totally agree, look at Carlos Checa. I think these guys with the diets/fitness they stick to can easily get to early 40s without too much trouble.

Posted: 30/03/2012 at 10:57

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