Rossi staying with Ducati for 2012

Valentino Rossi reflects on the German GP

Posted: 18 July 2011
by Visordown News

DESPITE difficulties with his transfer to Ducati, Valentino Rossi has committed to the Italian manufacturer for 2012.

Speaking after an off-par qualifying and race finish at Sachsenring, when asked by Gazzetta della Sport whether he will continue with Ducati in 2012 Rossi said: “Will I stay with Ducati in 2012? I said ‘I think so’, meaning that I reckon that staying here is the logical choice.”

The reasoning behind the question was in regards to the two-year contract between the nine-time champion and the Bologna manufacturer, the second year being an option for Rossi to continue giving him room for movement if the partnership did not go to plan.

The issue should he leave would be, where would Rossi and his entourage go? He won't return to Yamaha to ride alongside Jorge Lorenzo again and he burnt the bridge with Honda at the end of 2003 - however, HRC did extend the olive branch saying they would take Rossi back.

At Sachsenring the 31-year-old Italian found himself embroiled in a battle with teammate Nicky Hayden and Alvaro Bautista after working his way into the top ten from a poor qualifying position. Ultimately Rossi would finish the second best of the Ducatista in ninth, and both would lose out to the sterling work of Bautista in an inspiring ride on the lone Suzuki GSV-R.

Finding improvements with the bike from languishing down at the back of the grid, Rossi discussed the race: "After the opening laps, I realized that my pace was the same as that of Nicky and Bautista’s group, maybe even a little faster, but I had small glitches with the gearbox in the second half of the race.

"It was mainly hurting me in the last corner, when I changed to third, because the bike wheelied and it took me half the straightaway before I could put it back down.

"At the end of the race, I wanted to pass Nicky on the brakes into the first corner, where I was pretty strong, but instead even Bautista passed me on the straight. Anyway, that’s not where we want to be. 

"We definitely improved today compared to Saturday, but we’re still too far back." he finished, revealing that the improvements were a in part from adjusting the weight balancing of the Desmosedici GP11.1.

Moving to Ducati, Rossi found the Desmosedici unlike anything he was accustomed to, "Our performances are disappointing, because I don’t seem to be able to make the difference on this motorbike. We must figure out how to solve the problems, we must be focussed and carry on working hard, with optimism.

All we need now is some time, to develop a Ducati the way I want it.

Rossi

“This motorbike requires slightly different adjustments and a different riding style. We must understand which lead we should follow. Such a situation is a bit risky, because we might end up getting confused,” continued Valentino, “This motorbike was ready, it had been developed previously. All we need now is some time, to develop a Ducati the way I want it. Let’s hope for the best.

“I want to race, otherwise I’d stay home. Last year, here at the Sachsenring, I was walking on crutches and my shoulder was falling to pieces, but I lapped in 1’22”, the lap time of today’s winner. I don’t think I’ve suddenly become an idiot.”

Rossi will now decide whether to continue with the GP11.1, which can be developed further, or step back to the Desmosedici GP11.


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Rossi - "Last year, here at the Sachsenring, I was walking on crutches and my shoulder was falling to pieces, but I lapped in 1’22”, the lap time of today’s winner. I don’t think I’ve suddenly become an idiot.”

I don't think he's suddenly become an idiot... but last year, on last year's Ducati, Stoner was less than a 10th of a second slower than his fastest this year on the Honda. I'd call it complete inability to adapt.

Posted: 18/07/2011 at 16:14

I don't think Ducati will get there bike anywhere near the Honda and Yamaha's this season but I am happy young Rossi is committed to staying with Ducati next year because I am sure They will get it right by then and be the top team in 2012. I am an ex Yamaha racer so don't usually support Ducati but can't deny they are a great team who are only happy winning

Posted: 18/07/2011 at 16:17

Rossi stays at Ducati - what a shock! He's got a 2yrs contract with a massively fat paycheck.

On the other hand where else he can go? Honda, Yamaha? WSBK? Lolz.

Posted: 18/07/2011 at 17:13

Inability to adapt? Are you on drugs? He is the World Champion on 4 different types of motorcycle.

Posted: 19/07/2011 at 06:05

Erm... he last changed motorcycle in 2004 when he jumped on a Yamaha & won straight off... it doesn't take much to adapt to something you already like.

My statement concerned his current predicament but perhaps it would be better worded by saying "has lost his ability to adapt".


Posted: 19/07/2011 at 08:53

More likely the tyres have evolved and are more suited to some of the other bikes.

I doubt even Stoner could do much better on the bike this season...

Posted: 19/07/2011 at 23:13

Yamaha was languishing before Rossi and Burgess et all jonied them. Then they won in the first season. Look at all the changes they made to that bike. Lorenzo benefited from that and has a very good platform now.

Ducati took a gamble and went with carbon fibre and want to be pioneers with that frame technology. There is a saying in the US about pioneers - "sometimes a pioneer can and up with an arrow in their head".

BIG MISTAKE Ducati. Swallow your pride and run an aluminium frame in parallel with your carbon frame. It's too early to be the pioneer in CF frames and it is costing you the championship. Quickly whip up an aluminium frame and start testing it alongisde your steel tube trellis and CF frames.

Posted: 20/07/2011 at 03:56

You don't half talk some utter twaddle at times Hedgehog. You really do.

I am ill at the mo, so I am not going to bite today.

Posted: 20/07/2011 at 09:01

'Eees gotta' go back to the clearly faster crutch set-up....

Posted: 20/07/2011 at 11:02

"Yamaha was languishing before Rossi and Burgess et all jonied them"

Only in as far as they had no riders... Yamaha's No1 rider Max had gone to Honda, Yamaha's No2 rider Carlos Checa was 7th in 2003 & went on to be 7th in 2004 with Rossi & Burgess et al's support... no change... he actually had 6 less points! Rossi won his first race on it... if the 'changes they made' in 5 short winter tests benifited Lorenzo 4 years later they most certainly didn't do anything for Checa at the time... Yamaha made some really good modifications to their bike at the start of 2004 & gave Rossi a bike capable of winning championships... in his 1st ever test on the Yamaha in Sepang he beat his own lap record... he didn't need much to adapt to it... it was already a good bike & it just needed a champion like Rossi to turn their fortunes around.

Posted: 20/07/2011 at 11:42

... & yeah Pagik sorry about that earlier post, edited it out (I hoped no-one had noticed)... I was looking at 2002 results when Max was with Yamaha... oops

Posted: 20/07/2011 at 11:47

S'alright mate. I don't think anyone noticed.........

;)

LOL

Posted: 20/07/2011 at 13:44

Some good points Hedgehog5-2.

Sometimes the changes suit one rider more than another. As far using Checa as a measure it's always going to be hard to know.

We're never going to know all the changes that went on, but two of the siginicant and well know were the crossplane or banger engine and the updated software/electronics.

Those two changes made some significant gains, the latter one the biggest. With Rossi saying the bike was so easy to ride fast that it was "almost like cheating", compared to how much advance had been made over the other manufacturers.

Not sure if the frame was changed much but it was already a decent handler before Burgess waved his magic wand over the whole package.

Has Rossi lost his edge? Time will tell. Maybe his passion for winning is going.

The difference between Stoner and Rossi is Stoner will ride the wheels off something that's not quite right and risk crashing it, where as Rossi likes to run with a higher safety margin and devolop a bike that will allow him to ride within that margin and win.

Posted: 21/07/2011 at 05:25

I totally agree with you there Craig... my original point was that he's lost the ability to adapt. Up until now Rossi's biggest adaption has been from 250's to 500's where he took a year to learn. The move from 500's to 990's he did along with the rest of the field. Adapting to the Yamaha was not that big a deal... going that fast on his 1st test proves that. Stoner came from 2 stoke 250's to 4 stroke 990's took a year to learn the Honda then jumped on the fast but pig-to-handle Ducati & won... 2 big moves in the space of just over a year. Moving to Honda must feel sweeter than Rossi's "almost like cheating" move to Yamaha.

Posted: 21/07/2011 at 08:24

u are an idiot. yamaha is no better than kawasaki when rossi switched! hence the war with honda man vs machine. gaylord...

Posted: 28/09/2011 at 14:38

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