Rossi: 'Ducati was very difficult'

Italian champ talks about his two years at Ducati

Posted: 12 September 2012
by Visordown News

Rossi ... back on a Yamaha in 2013

VALENTINO Rossi has spoken to about his time with Ducati.

Despite his lack of results, Rossi said he's disappointed to be leaving the team having worked with 'a lot of great people' at Ducati.

Rossi highlighted the famous front-end problems as the main reasons behind his lack of success: "This experience, this adventure with Ducati was very difficult already from the start. And unfortunately we were not able to fix our problem during this year and a half, and I was never competitive with this bike.

"We are not able to create enough grip from the front tyre and enough contact on the ground. This was the biggest problem from the Valencia test in 2010, and unfortunately after almost two years we have more or less the same problem."

Rossi went on to talk about his reason for the switch and how he feels about being back with former team mate Jorge Lorenzo: "I made my decision because at this point in my career I think I have to try to have the more competitive bike, or the best bike for me.

"I’m not sure I can be as fast as Lorenzo with the Yamaha. I think we will have less problems than in the past. Lorenzo was very fair with my comeback. The important thing is to have fun riding the bike, and have the chance to fight for the good positions."

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So essentially, it's the same thing he said all along then. Doesn't blame the people at Ducati (although I do, but not all of them). But then again, I'm not the one that had to build the sodding thing or ride it.

Posted: 12/09/2012 at 16:14

He knew it was difficult when he signed for them. Trying to turn a carbon framed Italian V4 into a Japanese Aluminium beam framed inline 4 did not help much. It would have been easier for Audi to buy Yamaha as well.

Really cannot see him being champ again. Which is a shame.

Posted: 12/09/2012 at 16:27

If I'm honest, I don't care if he gets another title, I just wanna see more of him back up the front fighting for the win. Be good to have the old devil back again.

Posted: 12/09/2012 at 17:01

I think rossi will be champion in 2014 then he will retire. I think next year will be more about podiums and fun than championships and the big push will come in 2014 because i'm sure he will want to retire champion

Posted: 12/09/2012 at 17:57

Agree Pagik be great to see him at the front again, love him or hate him Stoner is really going to be missed, we need the best riders on the best bikes, the interview is clearly Rossi being diplomatic, he has to be, but I think we all would of liked to be been a fly on the wall in some of those Ducati meetings about the bike

Posted: 12/09/2012 at 19:24

The meeting I'd most like to know what went on at was the one Valentino had with the boss of Audi. Because I think that's where he made up his mind.

Posted: 12/09/2012 at 20:20

I miss stoner already and i thought i would never say that. when i started watching motogp it was between rossi and stoner. next year will be completly diffrent. the field will be more level. i think stoner makes them all look like they are out for a sunday run.

Posted: 12/09/2012 at 20:55

It would be great to see Vale back at the top buty I just don't think it will appen.
Onda wil be outa for bloode. Lorenzo clearly has the pace and maturity now. Plus Marco Merquez and if over the winter Ducati actually build a prototype rather than a 916 on steroids then 3 of the 4 will be getting very much in the way.
As for Stacey it is a shame his mouth is inversely capable to his talent.

Posted: 12/09/2012 at 21:46

It don't matter. Rossi just wants to know if he's competitive still. His interview shows what an amazing character he is, very humble really. He knows Lorezno is faster these days, who cares. Rossi maybe, just a little. But Rossi is the greatest character ever in any sport in the history of sport. We should be allowed to see him on his bike of choice and enjoy the short time we have left with him. I reckon once he gets back on some front end grip, it'll feel easy for him, like swinging three baseball bats then just using one, feels like you're the king. He'll feel like he's on a bike again, like it is after you get back on a bike after a while and feel the joy of a smooth fast ride through a nice curving road - with a big grin on your face.

Posted: 12/09/2012 at 23:26

@Pagik,"So essentially, it's the same thing he said all along then."
BS, from the start both VR and JB said the bike was brilliant and would fix any problems in minutes. Egg + Face...... Stoner is and will be the only successful Ducati rider. Underappreciated and immensely talented. Rossi is biding his time, drawing a salary before being pastured off to WSBK or wrapping more rally cars around trees!!
Rossi will not be anywhere near Lorenzo next year.

Posted: 13/09/2012 at 06:33

Lets come back to this conversation in 12 months Steven, and we'll see who's right.

Posted: 13/09/2012 at 09:10

I'm looking forward to seeing Vale back on the Yamaha, I hope he can mix it at the front still. As others have said, I've no idea about Championships, but without doubt he'll get a few wins and should be fighting which will be nice.

I also want Ducati to get it fixed, and I think they're now going towards that. Having Ben, Nicky, Dovi and Ianonne gives them a fairly good pool of different styles. That should IMO give them the data to develop a decent all rounder. They'll still need a lot of help, and cash from Audi to speed things along mind.

As for the Stoner/Rossi thing, if you'd watched GP for two minutes, you'd realize that the bikes/tyres/rules change year by year, sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. The GP7 that Stoner won the title on done it in VASTLY different circumstances to the GP11/12 that Vale had been riding. However, I still think that a Vale/Lorenzo/Pedrosa would have found it very hard to win on that GP7, I think they'd have been nearer the front no doubt, but win, I'm not so sure.

Without doubt, Ducati owe that Championship to Casey, and I think it's fair to say Casey these days gets recognition for his riding, but sometimes he shouts off about things in what seems a rude or jealous way, and doesn't bother to sign things for fans often, because it's not his job.

I'll miss his riding, but I wont overly miss him as a person.

As for the Ducati, there really is only one man that truly knows, and that's Loris Capirossi rode the GP3 through to GP7, after his Suzuki stint, he then also rode the GP11 at Pramac.

From the Mouth of Loris;

"Valentino is right: they would talk about numbers, technical analysis, tables, without listening to the guy on the bike. For too long they had thought the problem was the rider, but it wasn't."

"[Stoner's] was a different bike. The year he won the title I won a race too and got on the podium twice," he said. "I'd really like to see what Stoner would do with today's Ducati."

So, when you look at the GP7, it was something Loris managed to win and podium on, I think it's reasonable to state that the GP11/12 haven't really been competing on the same terms. Lets face it, Casey didn't set the world on fire with the GP9/GP10, sure he won races but he crashed a lot, the bike was crap and Casey flattered it.

I also wonder about what Pyndman has said, going from a bike with poor feel, back to a bike with good feel, perhaps he's learned something and can push harder now, I guess we'll start to have an idea from November. Perhaps it's worse and Dovi will drop like a stone? Perhaps it's better and Dovi will surprise.

But anyway, I couldn't really care, as Pagik has said, lets come back to this in 12 months and see where we are.

I for one am hoping we'll have our Alien back at the front mixing it up and adding another element of surprise to the races.

Posted: 13/09/2012 at 09:30

Steven, keep up. Rossi and JB said that about the world superbike ducati, they've never said that about the motogp bike..

And vinny? Sunday ride? Lorenzo and pedrosa have more wins than stoner.. Fair enough it's mainly those 3 but to say it's just stoner isn't really true in my opinion..

Interesting point about going from bad feeling bike to a good feeling one.. My first bike was a chopper - the first day I got on a sportsbike, I got my knee down purely because the sportsbike felt like it could do ANYTHING in comparison to the chopper. I think it'll be interesting..

Posted: 13/09/2012 at 09:43

JB also said about the satellite bikes that they "looked too lose and could fix that in 80 seconds" Referring to the way the bike actually appeared to be too lose. Again, nothing about the works bikes.

The rest of it, from Vinny and Steven, I'm not even going to dignify with a reply.

Posted: 13/09/2012 at 09:56

In my mind, I wasn't dignifying - I was THWARTING!! :0)

Posted: 13/09/2012 at 10:00

Nice work!! :0)

Posted: 13/09/2012 at 10:36

Ducati should re-sign Troy Bayliss.

Posted: 13/09/2012 at 12:03

And whilst they are at it, drag the GP7 outta mothballs and get Foggy back on a 916 yeah?


Posted: 13/09/2012 at 12:33

Opinions opinions, some thought, some trite. You are a funny lot.

I'll say again, who gives a fuck if Rossi doesnt win the championship or even a race, he knows J Lo is younger and at his peak, like he was. The thing that gets me is how quick people forget of Rossi's accomplishments and dominance for a long long time. He can do whatever the fuck he wants, there's not many you can say that for.

Thank god he still loves racing, thank god for all our sakes.
Anyway, bike racing today!!!!!!!!! Thank the good god for it.

Posted: 13/09/2012 at 22:42

'Ducati was very difficult'


"This experience, this adventure with Ducati was very difficult already from the start"

these are 2 very different statements.
It is not fair to ducati...

Posted: 14/09/2012 at 06:48

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Stoner win on a trellis frame Duke?  His success with the carbon frame was minimal and then he jumped ship to Honda.

Posted: 14/09/2012 at 08:38

LOL ... here we go again.

This article is about 46 and his woes .... leave Stoner alone. Yeah I forgot you somehow, cannot, eh?

You will get your lovest next year, Lorenzo against Vale, yep, can't wait ...

Posted: 14/09/2012 at 12:27

"I’m not sure I can be as fast as Lorenzo with the Yamaha"

Yamaha must be happy to hear this before he's even started with them...  

Posted: 14/09/2012 at 17:36

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