'MotoGP is struggling' says Checa

Checa i agree there is no fun in having one manufacturer dominate or have so much money to spend. Racing has to be down to riders as much as machinery to make it interesting.

Posted: 09/03/2012 at 10:28

We can all start bashing HRC, and mostly, we're right to, but, the fact remains, they are the biggest dog on the block, always have been, always will be. And as such, they usually get their own way. Look at the 800's.........

I was made up that it took them 5 years to win a title with the capacity THEY pushed for, and even then, they had to have 3 bikes, out there to do it..

If you want a good read and a bit of an in sight to all this nonsense, have a look at this:

http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2012/03/05/politics_and_power_play_why_the_motogp_w.html

Posted: 09/03/2012 at 10:53

Pagik, no, Honda didn't need three bikes it just needed a capable rider which it got in Casey Stoner.

Posted: 09/03/2012 at 13:26

always blame Honda!

Posted: 09/03/2012 at 14:50

Because its usually their fault Fred!!!!

Posted: 09/03/2012 at 18:01

Well now lets see what this brings up !moto gp superbike mx whatever all are struggling at min but one thing that has bugged me for yrs and i did write to mcn yrs ago about this and they said i was talking bull but im not! You ask whats this got to do with checa comment but think about this ! Ago , sheene wittham ,mick grant senna decoster noyce hill schummacher dunlop ,parrish gardner schwantz,hailwood , roberts etc etc all had one thing in common in that you knew who they where at a glance ! Even my mum or girlfriend or mate new some of them . But what the fuck has this got to do with moto gp u say ! well unless your a petrol head you have no idea who they are unless you read the caption stoner ihave to study the picture co s they all look like clones riders take note give yourself an identity ie your helmet design and keep it the same yr in yr out and learn that public recognition is much more important in a career ,thats why if you show a non petrol head a yellow arai he will say joey dunlop or the peeler says to you on hard shoulder well now barry sheene lets see your licence ! Moto gp is crap because they want the money so do the pc thing and the general public cant identify with it even if they have no interest people buy things to be associated with a product nothing else! Rant over!

Posted: 09/03/2012 at 21:47

I think I agree with most of what JT said.....just not sure if I read the shorthand right. Motor sport in general now seems to be full of corporate clones, all suited and booted, clean cut and following the party line...and that includes the pit crews. That's the price you pay when big money takes over the show and calls the tune. Rossi may have been the last character left in Moto Gp, and when he goes that's the end of that era and the anonymously dressed Power Rangers will take over. All motor sport is expensive, even more so when major manufacturers decide to win at all costs. Moto Gp will surely lose viewers and spectators if the classes degenerate into production and one make races no matter how good the racing is, simply because all the purpose and history will have gone. Who can name one driver from the Renault Cup or any single make racing formula? I think I've seen the best of bike racing, sorry for all the rest of you who missed it.

Posted: 10/03/2012 at 09:08

Supersic was probably the best think happening in MotoGP, but unfortunately we lost him. In the UK, we've got Guy Martin who is a character, but he's mainly involved in road racing, and most petrol heads don't even follow that series. And of course, Guy is not overly happy playing the media luvie, preferring to do overtime mending trucks!

F1 drivers on the other hand are all over the place, especially Button and Hamilton. The bike firms could learn a lot from the F1 marketeers.

Posted: 11/03/2012 at 11:42

Pagik
and its Ducati 'fault' for winning WSBK every year?!??!?

Honda won 2 years, after Yamaha and Ducati, and it's because Honda have money, power, influence... thats not about making a better bike/riders.

I just dont understand why people have to 'deify' a rider. It´s better a Guy Martin than a Ian Hutchinson or McGuiness... Better Vale or SuperSic than Stoner/Pedrosa... Most people prefer gods of personality and full of media/attention whores than a silent talented rider. It must be because you can buy their equipment and looks like them, and feel better, awesome and a better rider.

Posted: 11/03/2012 at 15:44

I don't think "deify" or to make "god like" is the correct term! For what ever reason race fans and viewers like to identify with certain riders. A poor film or tv program is one that you don't give a shit what happens to the characters. Equally there's no point in watching a bike race that you don't care who wins. If that's the case then there's no excitement and it's just a bunch of people riding round and round on motorbikes until they stop. I think certain people have a charisma that attracts and makes others interested enough to watch and follow their careers. Others enjoy immense success in spite of lacking this quality and this just boosts the intensity of rivalry in any competitive sport. I'm sure we can all think of sports men and women who would fit this description; make your own lists! Just my two pennyworth.

Posted: 12/03/2012 at 13:48

Aside from the blame game, motogp is struggling due to loss of spectacle ,whoever is winning,remember the 1 st two motogp seasons , backing in, sliding, then electronics came and it was no longer such a spectacle, bsb' s move, I suspect will be watched with interest by organisers and manufacturers to see what it provides and at what cost,and by riders by how level it makes the playing field.....

Posted: 14/03/2012 at 09:59