No Speed Triple 1200 say Triumph

If you're banking on a Tiger Explorer-engined Speed Triple. Look away now.

Posted: 25 January 2012
by Visordown News

THERE won't be a Speed Triple 1200, according to Simon Warburton, Triumph's Product Manager.

In a recent interview with Visordown, when asked about the possibility of a Speed Triple powered by the same engine as the new Tiger Explorer, Warburton said: "I'm glad I've got the opportunity to clear this up! Quite simply [if we used the 1215 engine from the Tiger Explorer] it wouldn't be a very good Speed Triple. It's too big, it's too slow revving, it doesn't have the right character at all. The Speed Triple needs an exciting engine and with the 1215 engine it would be like building a [BMW] K1300R which is not what we want to do."

You can read the full interview with Simon Warburton here.


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I reckon they are missing a trick, not everyone wants a physically small bike, i have a 955i Speedie, and would love a bigger engined one but not the current version as i don't like the looks of it and it is smaller than my one.

Posted: 25/01/2012 at 17:09

I'd like to see a Speed or Daytona sitting around 800-1000cc (read: under the litre mark but above the 675) to save on the insurance.

Posted: 25/01/2012 at 17:15

Marketing spiel. The Tiger 800 has been designed to have long stroke for more torque so why would he say they wont change the engine internals for the Speed upgrade, when he would for the Street upgrade?

He's been told to keep selling Speeds for another couple of year, I reckon

Posted: 25/01/2012 at 17:30

I agree with Timpster, bikes are getting smaller every year, presumably just to be more nimble/racy/better handling on track and to appease bike mags, while as a potential customer at 6'2" and 53 years, I don't fit many (any?)
Bring back the GS1000S, Z1300, XS1100, CBX1000 bikes of yesteryear but with up to date spec. All fine for Road use OR track. Look how popular the GSX1400 has been and how well they hold price. A Bigger Speed Triple would be a sure hit with a proper seat for pillions too.

Posted: 25/01/2012 at 18:45

I prefer a light powerful bike over a heavy powerful bike. I mean look at the B-King for example, powerful sure, but it's huge and heavy and compare the handling to a Speed Triple and the little HP/lbs you gain you lose in the handling department. I'd pick a 350lbs, 100HP bike over a 500lbs, 150HP any day.

Posted: 25/01/2012 at 20:19

Agree with the Scotsgeezer. It would be bad marketing at the time of early year (peak) motorbike sales to acknowledge that a 1200 might be coming. They want to sell a load more 1050s first. It'll come, maybe next year.

Posted: 26/01/2012 at 10:50


Aki
I say leave well alone, they don't need to chase power figures like the japanese makers do, their bike is already unique in that its a triple and what use is power without delivery. If bikes are being built now that need power selector switches then that just proves they are too powerful or certainly beyond the realms of their markets ability?

Posted: 26/01/2012 at 11:43

So let me get this straight: Man with title of product manager from Triumph says there won't be a Speed Triple using the Tiger 1200 engine, but knowledgable internet folk know this means they will definitely make one.

How does that work?

Posted: 26/01/2012 at 14:48

I think they mean it.. I have a K1300r and for me it's a fantastic bike, but it doesn't sell well because it's so big. Stick to the 1050, the grass isn't always greener. besides I love flying past you all at Brands :)

Posted: 28/01/2012 at 09:30

I agree with having larger machines. I ride the last model Aprilia Tuono and am in the market for an new naked.

The latest Tuono was over-hyped before launch and the lazy or gullible bike journalists went along with it. After a three hour test ride I ached like on any small dimension sportbike. A shame because though the engine and computer gadgets were fantastic, I like to ride all day.

I then test rode the Triumph. A great naked bike also with a fine engine and though not as small as the RSV4 could still be bigger AND lighter.

Do these people listen to their customers? We want an upright sportsbike with FULL sportsbike power, handling, lightweight-ride, pillion capability and have a physically large presence with longterm riding comfort.

Maybe I will buy the new "Factory" Speed Triple as it is closest to this formula at the moment but it seems that the clay-model artists and frame designers are losing the plot.

Posted: 01/02/2012 at 12:04

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