125cc Triumph range in the pipeline?

Small capacity Triumph spied testing. Could Triumph be after a slice of the emerging markets?

Posted: 7 January 2011
by Visordown News

TRIUMPH COULD be planning to release a range of learner-legal 125cc models in the near future after a small-capacity prototype was spotted on test with the company's future big bikes.

The small bike, which hasn't yet been photographed, was spotted at two separate tests in the UK and Spain where Triumph was running several of its 2011 and 2012 prototype machines. While a small bike seems at odds with the firm's existing range, it could explain a gaping gap between the firm's current line-up and its widely announced plans for future models. Last year, the firm said it intended to expand to offer seven separate model ranges, up from three. With the launch of the Tiger 800 and by reshuffling the way it categorises its bikes, the firm has already managed to turn its three model lines – which were 'Urban Sports', 'Modern Classics', and 'Cruisers' – to six ranges; 'Roadsters', 'Supersports', 'Adventure', 'Touring', 'Classics' and 'Cruisers. But that still leaves one entire model range unaccounted for.

The firm's recent expansion in Thailand, where many of its bikes and components are now made, also means that a small-capacity bike could be profitable; something that would have been virtually impossible if it was made entirely in the UK.

Beyond that, the firm has been careful in recent years to make sure its trademark rights to the name “Cub” have not expired; in the firm's pre-Hinckley days the name was used on the firm's entry-level, small-capacity models.

With sales of small machines currently booming in India and Asia while the market for large bikes in so-called developed countries continues to drop, a move into the 125cc market could prove one of the best the firm has made since its rebirth 20 years ago.



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Triumph has a Thai assembly faility...???

Gee... I've never heard a thing about that from them... I wonder why???

Could it be that Triumph wants to keep the appearance of building all "Brit bikes"... when that is not totally true??? 

What will they do to crack the Indian tarif hex..? A factory there too, as Harley is building?


Posted: 07/01/2011 at 18:02

I hope it isn't a 125. A 40bhp 250 twin (with a restrictor to 33bhp) would be so much more relevant; and successful if they keep the price low. They could even join Moto3 if they tune it up. 

Posted: 08/01/2011 at 02:37

Lets hope it's not some re-badged Chinese or Indian piece of shite.

Posted: 08/01/2011 at 03:57

they have had a thai parts manurfacturing facility for years. they dont assemble whole bikes there. 

the bikes are designed by the british, steel is steel wherever its forged, cut and shaped. if they didnt make the parts in a cheaper place we wouldnt get the bikes for the competative prices we expect and they would be critisised for being expencive for something similar to the ja


Posted: 08/01/2011 at 05:00

minirollsrule

" steel is steel wherever its forged"

WRONG

steel is not just steel and there a varying qualities of steel and yes the quality is dependant on the country of origin and company of manufacture and the quality of raw materials used.


Posted: 08/01/2011 at 12:00

>they have had a thai parts manurfacturing facility for years. they dont assemble whole bikes there. <

Yes, they have had frame/tin ware/parts maufactruring in Thailand for years... 

But the "classic twins" production was moved there in 2007...

They have never "advertised" the move... They still are tight lipped about it...

It is the worst kept seceret in the industry... My "surprised response" was totally tonque in cheek...



Posted: 08/01/2011 at 13:05

125 is the way to go, you crack that market and your made.

Best of luck Triumph (make mine a triple)


Posted: 08/01/2011 at 22:28

The classic range is made out there as SCbonneville has said and if you look at the quality of those after a year or two they are nowhere near as good as the models produced previously.

That backs up Evils comment ref steel quality, for sure a small bike made there would be ok just for the economics but i hope they don't eventually produce all their bikes there.


Posted: 10/01/2011 at 09:33

I owned a Thia built Bonneville and used it all year round in Canada. The bike never missed a beat or leaked a drop of oil, or rusted and the quality was as good, if not better than the first British built bikes.

Posted: 10/01/2011 at 13:48

A 40bhp bike with restrictor kit is a market dead end when the new test laws come in.

Posted: 10/01/2011 at 16:02

It should be nice for the expansion of the brand, but aniway difficult to understand by the last two (or three?) generations of bikers, that maybe (surely?) don't know that Triumph once builted such small bikes, like the Cub, that anyway had a 200 cc displacement.
Regardin the Expat Steve comment: Moto 3 rules is only for one cylinder engines....

Posted: 10/01/2011 at 16:23

Lets hope that it (them?) is'nt a bit like the Tiger Cub,my first 'bike,'cos they ate big-ends and "mains" for breakfast!!

Posted: 11/01/2011 at 15:52

Thats exactly what it will be , a chinese bike built in thailand with a triumph name plate . But with a stupid retail price for the privlege of owning one .

SO WATCH THAT SPACE .


Posted: 11/01/2011 at 16:56

Hopefully they'll keep the current build quality going. Of all the bikes my customers bring in to me (valeting and anti-corrosion treatments), Triumph are one of the best for good quality fit and finish, better then BMW and Honda have been for the last five years.

Posted: 12/01/2011 at 00:16

A 125/250 modular design would be a smart move if they could do it profitably. Cheaper bikes usually equate to lower margins, so you need to sell a lot of them. Covering 125 and 250 would be good because 250s are still learner tackle in some countries. Good luck to 'em. My Street Triple has been great - quality and finish are easily on a par with the Japanese, and it's just such a hoot to ride. Plus it's a 'European' brand. (Don't worry about the Thai plant - Honda have factories in India and all over the world; many 'Jap' parts are now made in China; Ducati/Aprilia/MV etc bring in parst from the far East, etc., etc....)

Posted: 12/01/2011 at 08:13

Triumph could build a small capacity machine that could nudge both sets of 'nese out of the picture. 125 to 350 cc models, cheaper than a jap bike and not built out of leftover scrap like a chinese bike. Didn't the original firm consider plastic framed mopeds built fast and cheap to stop them going under? But the idea was ignored by the then owners bleating on about branding.

Good idea, a range of smaller machines to bring in new riders to the marque.


Posted: 13/01/2011 at 17:55

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