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MotoGP: Toseland under fire from Tech 3 boss

Thirteenth at Jerez, poor qualifying performances - things don't look good for our British hopeful

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Posted: 7 May 2009
by Visordown News

AS IF finishing 13th at Jerez was bad enough, now James Toseland is coming under fire from his team boss about his qualifying performances and race starts in MotoGP.

Speaking about his tough time in the Spanish race, the former double World Superbike Champion said: “It was a tough weekend and we have got some issues to sort out. We’re still trying a few things on the bike and I’m still searching for a comfortable setting over a race distance. I still need a second or so on race pace but I need to sort out qualifying too, because I’m giving myself too much to do by being too far back. You don’t need to be too far off but if you start at the back you stay at the back in a competitive class like this.

“It has not been a great start to the season but I don’t feel we’re that far away. We’ve got a lot of information from the Jerez weekend and we’re eliminating things that we know don’t work. I’m confident we’re close to finding the setting I need and working hard with my guys to find it.”

Which all sounds pretty positive, given that he's 14th overall so far. But then comes the sting in the tail from Tech 3 boss Herve Poncharal who added: “His lap times in the race were not too bad but it is clear he must improve in qualifying. He is capable of a much stronger performance, but it is difficult when you don’t qualify well. The start of the race now is crucial and qualifying is something that he will work on with his crew.”

Given that Poncharal has recently said in public that he wants Ben Spies on his bikes in 2010 JT can't be feeling too comfortable at the moment.


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User 97669
I Think j.t. is in his last season with his team,if he cant get good results then thats it,just look at marco melandre

Posted: 07/05/2009 at 19:13


y2blade

he is a waste of a great ride on a top drawer bike

SACK HIM NOW!!!!!!!


Posted: 07/05/2009 at 19:33


FatBoyTim
y2blade wrote (see)

he is a waste of a great ride on a top drawer bike

SACK HIM NOW!!!!!!!


i have no idea why, but i get the feeling that you are not a massive fan of Toseland Chris!

lol


Posted: 07/05/2009 at 19:47


User 97669

J.T. is a good rider,2 w.s.b. championships under his belt.

But moto g.p. i think he just cant get there.


Posted: 07/05/2009 at 19:56


Drumstick

If Toseland doesn't get  1 or 2 podiums & finish in the top 10 at all the other rounds I think he will be out the door in favor of  Ben Spies.

So good luck for the rest of the season I hope Toseland dose well.


Posted: 07/05/2009 at 21:23


y2blade
FatBoyTim wrote (see)
y2blade wrote (see)

he is a waste of a great ride on a top drawer bike

SACK HIM NOW!!!!!!!


i have no idea why, but i get the feeling that you are not a massive fan of Toseland Chris!

lol

i used to be untill he made a twat of himself at the Brit GP last year

 dicking around all week gobbing off about how he was going to piss it...then the flag drops and he bins it on the first lap

bell-end

and then there is all this "big man" shit he's started with colin edwards...man i hope colin whups his arse ALL year long


Posted: 07/05/2009 at 21:25


TrickyDicky
y2blade wrote (see)
i used to be untill he made a twat of himself at the Brit GP last year

 dicking around all week gobbing off about how he was going to piss it...then the flag drops and he bins it on the first lap

bell-end

and then there is all this "big man" shit he's started with colin edwards...man i hope colin whups his arse ALL year long

plonk..


Posted: 07/05/2009 at 22:04


TimskiT

I feel really sorry for James, in MotoGP it is the team around you and what you can do with what they give you!

Take Rossi and Burgess, setup is where it is at! 

People say, yeah but they're on the same Yams as Rossi and Lorenzo but I think if you peel that back to the teams and what they ACTUALLY get from the factory support is a world apart!!!

Look at the Ducati squad, fair play to the Moaner he can get that bike to where it needs to be but the others? Shite!

Kawasaki are kicking arse right now which goes to show that it's swings and roundabouts, we were at BSB last weekend and the Kwak did really well, same as the team running now without full Kwak support. Right poke in the eye that IMO for Kawasaki.

JT knows how to ride a bike as above pointed out, twice WSBK champion and that is no mean feat!

Look at Button in F1 right now, done shite all for years because of support and now he gets support from the top Ferrari engineer and it's all good...happy days! What does that tell you?


Posted: 08/05/2009 at 00:41


Ian Stubbs2
y2blade wrote (see)
FatBoyTim wrote (see)
y2blade wrote (see)

he is a waste of a great ride on a top drawer bike

SACK HIM NOW!!!!!!!


i have no idea why, but i get the feeling that you are not a massive fan of Toseland Chris!

lol

and then there is all this "big man" shit he's started with colin edwards...man i hope colin whups his arse ALL year long


Have to agree with that,

 You think Colin will be asking his mate G.O.A.T for some setting tips, to make sure hes ahead of JT


Posted: 08/05/2009 at 00:48


TimskiT
Ian Stubbs2 wrote (see)
y2blade wrote (see)
FatBoyTim wrote (see)
y2blade wrote (see)

he is a waste of a great ride on a top drawer bike

SACK HIM NOW!!!!!!!


i have no idea why, but i get the feeling that you are not a massive fan of Toseland Chris!

lol

and then there is all this "big man" shit he's started with colin edwards...man i hope colin whups his arse ALL year long


Have to agree with that,

 You think Colin will be asking his mate G.O.A.T for some setting tips, to make sure hes ahead of JT

Yeah Colin the Great, never won a MotoGP in his racing career! PMSL

Colin is a character but a test rider at best!

Looked at his stats on Wiki, jesus fucking awful!


Posted: 08/05/2009 at 00:54


Ian Stubbs2
doesnt say he is great

Posted: 08/05/2009 at 01:09


davemax
IF you were to start a team for motorcycle racing,EDWARDS is a cracking workman and allround team player.Can't be arsed to wikipedea him,but from memory he wil bring points home every meeting.You knob jockeys would be happy to be 60 secs behind him.

Posted: 08/05/2009 at 01:19


Ian Stubbs2

Have to agree with that,

except the knob jockey bit


Posted: 08/05/2009 at 01:21


TimskiT
davemax wrote (see)
IF you were to start a team for motorcycle racing,EDWARDS is a cracking workman and allround team player.Can't be arsed to wikipedea him,but from memory he wil bring points home every meeting.You knob jockeys would be happy to be 60 secs behind him.
Why support him, he is demonstrating what the septics do to all their allies, kill them using friendly fire!

Posted: 08/05/2009 at 01:22


Rumble1
I just hope Spies doesn't make a stupid move and go to MotoGP.  It is much more fun to watch him in WSBK right now. 

Posted: 08/05/2009 at 01:22


davemax
Ian Stubbs2 wrote (see)

Have to agree with that,

except the knob jockey bit


ok...................................................55secs

Posted: 08/05/2009 at 01:29


davemax
TimskiT wrote (see)
davemax wrote (see)
IF you were to start a team for motorcycle racing,EDWARDS is a cracking workman and allround team player.Can't be arsed to wikipedea him,but from memory he wil bring points home every meeting.You knob jockeys would be happy to be 60 secs behind him.
Why support him, he is demonstrating what the septics do to all their allies, kill them using friendly fire!


Because he's given excellent entertainment/results over the years.Even Mr.Fogarty and Chillie haven't been as consistent.

Regards

FOGGY FAN.


Posted: 08/05/2009 at 01:32


Flo
TimskiT wrote (see)

I feel really sorry for James, in MotoGP it is the team around you and what you can do with what they give you! Or what you can blag off your team mate?

Take Rossi and Burgess, setup is where it is at! Great team, granted, but both Burgess' crew and Vale would be doing well even if they weren't together. Quality counts.

People say, yeah but they're on the same Yams as Rossi and Lorenzo but I think if you peel that back to the teams and what they ACTUALLY get from the factory support is a world apart!!!Hmmmm. Had a look at the full fat Hondas and their satelite teams? Getting the shiny new parts doesn't always help. Isn't the Pedrobot running last years frame?

Look at the Ducati squad, fair play to the Moaner he can get that bike to where it needs to be but the others? Shite! Riders or bikes? Casey has a level of talent way beyond that of most of the field, it's hardly the factories fault that their #1 rider is world class.

Kawasaki are kicking arse right now which goes to show that it's swings and roundabouts, we were at BSB last weekend and the Kwak did really well, same as the team running now without full Kwak support. Right poke in the eye that IMO for Kawasaki. Best of luck to the teams in both classes, it's great to see them doing well.

JT knows how to ride a bike as above pointed out, twice WSBK champion and that is no mean feat! Perhaps not, but his rivals aren't exactly slow, even (especially) the satelite boys...

Look at Button in F1 right now, done shite all for years because of support and now he gets support from the top Ferrari engineer and it's all good...happy days! What does that tell you?

That F1 is all about the car?

MotoGP, probably more than any other mainstream motorsport, is about individual skill, courage and determination. Stoners' Duke is almost unrideable at times, but Casey brings it home when his team mates are up to ten places down the grid. The goat took a proven looser and spanked all comers. The media banged on about engine improvements, but his team mate and the satelite bikes did no better than they had the season before. JT is a world champion, but his lack of success in MotoGP can't be blamed on anything or anyone other than himself. He's got a better bike than the satelite teams roughing him up almost every race. He aquired the (supposedly) better crew chief from Colin Edwards, who's now raping him on an identical machine. I don't feel for him at all, either he steps up to the mark and justifies his place or he slides into the background. He's got every advantage possible, short of taking Rossi's ride in a fortnight!

Posted: 08/05/2009 at 02:05


TimskiT
I bought 2 x JT T-shirts at Oulton Park last weekend for a pound each, my Bro got two aswell...he got XL though!

Posted: 08/05/2009 at 02:29


Rumble1
Biaggi didn't do half bad on the R1 when he had it.  Rossi just put it over the top. 

Posted: 08/05/2009 at 05:17


Ian Stubbs2

Posted: 08/05/2009 at 09:54

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