Moto2: New updates for 250 replacement class
Sealed engines, rev limit and control electronics amongst new rule changes
NEW information has emerged from Honda with details that the new Moto2 class will feature sealed engines, fixed gear ratios, control electronics and limited data-logging equipment.
After being rewarded the Moto2 contract two weeks ago it has been revealed that engines will be supplied to the teams free of charge, but with the stipulation they will be handed out at the start of the weekend, and returned after the race.
So far, the only adjustments allowed will be to ECU settings, and these will be limited.
The possibility of single-supplier fuel and tyres is in discussion for 600cc class, which will replace 250s in 2010.
A statement from IRTA explained the latest information, confirming that an evolution of the CBR600 engine will be used, with the same throttle bodies and fuel systems as the production machine. The rev limit will be set to 16,500rpm, the road machine is red-lined to 15,000rpm.
The statement continues: "A slipper clutch will be used, but whether this is wet or dry has still to be decided. It is unlikely there will be a cassette gearbox. Gear ratios will be appropriate for a race engine, and fixed."
The latest developments contradicts the statement from Jerez, where an HRC spokesman said teams would be able to perform their own maintenance.
There is already a growing interest from prospective entrants, with projected grids of 34 riders expected and preference expected to be given to MotoGP satellite teams, then existing 250 and 125 teams.
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It will be like watching a horse race where all the horses are cloned copies. One of racings interests are seeing the different makes of machine pitted against each other I for one wont be watching a one horse contest
Posted: 19/05/2009 at 12:56
From the comments above, I think you are all missing the point. These Moto2 bikes will be 50kg lighter than a 600 supersport and Honda are claiming 140-150bhp from their engine, this, combined with prototype chassis, slicks and trick suspension will make for some great close racing as we've come to expect form the current 250's. I for 1 can't wait to see these things in action!
Posted: 19/05/2009 at 20:15
Should be 500cc. We already have 600 supersport. What is wrong with half a MotoGP engine such as the V5 Honda RC211V. The RC211V is a developed motor and it would take little to pair it down. Better sound from a v-twin and would distinguish them from supersport. Must be 500cc - 600cc is too close to 800cc class.
Posted: 21/05/2009 at 06:00
Elaborate R6 Cup? exactly what it will be. think it's a good move. i'm not bothered who supplies the engines or any of the politics but the racing should be good and it's a good way to get some british lads nearer the front. we already have that in the world supersports,don't we ???
Posted: 21/05/2009 at 06:51
Utter crap. Honda have flexed their corporate muscles and "won" the contract in the hope of picking up retail sales of the CBR600.  Like others have said, will just tame this class into an exotic Supersports clone. Half a MotoGP bike at 500cc is an interesting idea though!
Posted: 22/05/2009 at 04:13
yes we already have world supersports and 9/10 it's the best racing you'll see. yes we are very capable of riding 250's but unfortunatley we havn't got any british teams in the 250 at the minute, at least not competetive ones. i thought i read that a few british based teams were entering the new class. therefore there's a good chance they'll employ british riders.
Posted: 22/05/2009 at 21:45
yes we already have world supersports and 9/10 it's the best racing you'll see. yes we are very capable of riding 250's but unfortunatley we havn't got any british teams in the 250 at the minute, at least not competetive ones. i thought i read that a few british based teams were entering the new class. therefore there's a good chance they'll employ british riders.
like the world supersports at the moment then ,eh ?
Posted: 22/05/2009 at 21:58
you're obviously not very bright so i'll spell it out. i've answered yes once and the answer is YES again. like supersports. is that a bad thing? does it have to be different? It's a support class. the idea is that you have races to support the main class, wheather thats motogp or WSBK, that supplies riders and teams to the main class. therefore the bikes have to be similar, i.e a smaller version of the main class. world supersports into world superbike. 250s have no relevence to motogp. 500cc two strokes were the dogs bollocks but rightly or wrongly times have changed so move on. being a smart arse is beyond you my friend so give it up.
Posted: 23/05/2009 at 11:02
you're obviously not very bright so i'll spell it out. i've answered yes once and the answer is YES again. like supersports. is that a bad thing? does it have to be different? It's a support class. the idea is that you have races to support the main class, wheather thats motogp or WSBK, that supplies riders and teams to the main class. therefore the bikes have to be similar, i.e a smaller version of the main class. world supersports into world superbike. 250s have no relevence to motogp. 500cc two strokes were the dogs bollocks but rightly or wrongly times have changed so move on. being a smart arse is beyond you my friend so give it up.
so what i'm trying to say you thick cnut is we already have british teams in the proper 600 class why do we need more british teams in another 600 class.?
and if times march on ,why are we going backwards ? if you're so fucking clever answer why we need a one make 600 class ? i'll answer it for you,somebodys palm is getting greased. and it's not all about moto GP ,some people like to watch the other classes and the majority would prefer to see 250 two strokes than a 600 one make series.,
Posted: 23/05/2009 at 19:52
600 supersports the 'proper' 600 class? not sure about that, surely it's just another series. a very good one at that. times change. end of story. it doesn't matter what we all prefer. the 250's are too expensive. it's a independant world championship but it's still a support class for motogp. thats how teams use it anyway. Obviously somebody's palm is getting greased. whats your point. thats how it is and it's how it's always been. talk about any rule change in the history of motorcycle racing and the reason for it will be money. it certainly isn't because of the fans. a single engine supplier isn't a one make series. we don't have any british teams in motogp/250/125. all our riders ride for european teams, i'd just like to see some british teams with some british riders. at the front hopefully. it dosen't matter how many we have elsewhere in wsbk & wss, why can't we have some in motogp. hope that helps, i'm enjoying this.
Posted: 23/05/2009 at 21:55
if it's not the "proper" class then jenko,how come it carries the status of a world title. it's not like the 600 superstocks which is a series run behind the supersports,but the "world supersports" is a bona fide FIM world championship,so why do we need another. currently 1st and 2nd in the championship is an englishman, a irishman (no scotsman so no jokes please) and a british team. you say you want a 600 class with brit riders and btish teams ,we have it already.
Posted: 24/05/2009 at 07:48
when we had british rider at the front of world superbikes we still wanted them at the front of the 500cc class. however unlikely that was. you cant say just because we're doing well in supersports then the world is rosey. you've missed the point totally, i wasn't refering to wss at all, its a brilliant class in it's own right. the thread was on about replacing the 250 class and i said that however much i'll miss the 250's, it was a change that was always going to happen and at least we might get some new teams entering who might give some up and coming british riders a chance. if that leads to motogp rides then great because they won't be getting a chance straight from wss.
Posted: 24/05/2009 at 09:03
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