Westminster City Council's response to mass demo

"I call on you to cancel your protest ride on 31st March, which will inevitably delay Londoners seeking to go about their business, many on their journey home"

Posted: 12 March 2009
by Visordown News

FOLLOWING THE announcement that there will be a peaceful protest on 31st March 2009 against the introduction of an “experimental parking tax” on motorcycles and scooters, Westminster City Council have written to the organisers in an attempt to disuade them from holding the demonstration.

Their letter, to Committee Chairman Warren Djanogly, dated 12 March 2009, reads:

Dear Mr Djanogly,

Thank you for your emails of 9th and 10th March in connection with Westminster's press release dated 9th March 2009, the contents of which I have carefully noted.

Westminster fully accepts that lawful, peaceful protest is an entirely legitimate method of disagreeing with any Council policy, including motorcycle charging. Our use of the phrase “rogue motorcycle protestors” emphasises the fact that the majority of protestors have behaved lawfully and reasonably. However, the duty of care to our staff, and the responsibility of maintaining public order in Westminster, is taken extremely seriously. Westminster will therefore take appropriate action against campaigners, including those associated with the “No To Bike Parking Fees” campaign, who do break the law or harass our staff. I note that to date you have failed to publicly challenge, question or condemn those individuals who have acted illegally, or sought to intimidate or harass officers and members, deface public property, or impersonate an elected Member of Westminster Council.

I cannot comment further on the attempt to obtain confidential information by impersonating an elected Member since this matter is currently being investigated by the Police Computer Crimes Unit. No doubt they will contact you directly if they deem it appropriate. Westminster has maintained a comprehensive incident log recording illegal acts and incidences of intimidation and harassment. This is regularly updated and shared with the Police. This is not a public document and cannot be shared with you.

Furthermore, I strongly urge you to desist from actions which damage the West End economy. Your recent protest hindered hard pressed retailers and caused delay and inconvenience on many transport routes. These are not the actions of a responsible group. I call on you to cancel your protest ride on 31st March, which will inevitably delay Londoners seeking to go about their business, many on their journey home. I welcome your attendance at the Built Environment Policy & Scrutiny Meeting to put your case, but other actions are unnecessary and excessive.

They do not promote your arguments, and will disrupt many Londoners with no part to play in your protest. Given your record of publicising our correspondence, I am making this letter public in addition to copying to the elected Members of Westminster Council.

Yours Sincerely,

Danny Chalkley

We reckon Mr Chalkley's got a bee in his bonnet. Don't you?


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It goes without saying that I will definitely be there now.

Posted: 13/03/2009 at 05:26

Getting a 1000 bikers there is a tall order, but it's possible.

Posted: 13/03/2009 at 07:44

That reply has just added one more demonstrator to the list

Posted: 13/03/2009 at 09:08

If it was aborted then what other form of direct and peacefull action would we take to get the attention of the tosspots who have their snouts in the trough, seems like the council dont give a flying fuck about anybody as long as they squeeze more cash from the public.

Posted: 13/03/2009 at 16:27

Sounds a little intimidatory to me.

Posted: 13/03/2009 at 18:04

Doolybhoy 1 wrote (see)
If it was aborted then what other form of direct and peacefull action would we take to get the attention of the tosspots who have their snouts in the trough,

You could always do the following,

1 just stand on the side of the road (out of the way of the public),

2 keep quiet and

3 get NOTHING done.

That would keep the 'powers that be' happy (and us poorer)

Good on ya lads (and girls), if it was coming to wigan then I would join in


Posted: 13/03/2009 at 20:36


But Kevin, it will be coming to Wigan, if everybody stands back.

Posted: 13/03/2009 at 20:58

Tis true, Chalkley has stated it:

http://www.mslmagazine.co.uk/news.htm

" Called the Pay by Phone system, the use of the mobile technology now means that the plan is now easy to expand across London initially once the scheme has been proven by Westminster.

According to Westminster Councillor Danny Chalkley, after that the scheme will go to Birmingham, Liverpool, Peterborough and across the rest of the country."

If you can come, please do, it's no longer a 'London' thing.

Ride safe...

Posted: 14/03/2009 at 00:28

Definetely going to be there on Tuesday.

I hope others (lots of) make the effort to turn up too.


Posted: 14/03/2009 at 20:56

if the weather is nice i am off work that day so i dont mind taking the time to ride down there just to piss those in power.

Posted: 14/03/2009 at 22:41


I've received an e-mail from cllr David Boothroyd that has shown there are some MPs on our side. But I don't know how to paste the e-mail here.

He and cllr Ruth Bush met with the No To Bike Parking Tax group, and proffered advice on how to oppose Westminster council's policy. This at least shows that MPs are taking note.

A big demo on 31st March could make a huge inroad into getting the charges scrapped. Even if Westminster council don't budge, other councils will be watching, and may baulk at the idea of demos outside their own office.

It really is worth attending, people, if only as a bike meet. I met loads of people at Hanover Square last year, had a great laugh, brought Regent St to a standstill, and had my photo taken by a million jap tourists (roughly).

What's not to like? It's a couple of hours' fun. And worth the journey. 


Posted: 15/03/2009 at 00:18

Thank you for the invitation, Danny Chalkley. I'll be there, I promise.


Posted: 15/03/2009 at 04:31

I'm there now, if only cause of this idiotic letter... See you guys on the road!

Posted: 15/03/2009 at 20:09


I was going to say look for a silver TL1000 and say hello, but I really don't fancy being stuck in traffic on a sports bike, so I'm going to borrow a Triumph Boneville for the day. You won't miss it, it has yellow cam covers!

Let me know what bikes you'll be riding (photos would be better) and I'll try to find you.


Posted: 15/03/2009 at 23:34

I'll be on the Burgman 400 with lap cover, top box backrest, megaphone and V for Vendetta mask. Hard to miss.

Posted: 16/03/2009 at 07:26

I'll be there! It is going to be a great day, Danny Chalkleys letter makes be want to be there even more!

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Posted: 16/03/2009 at 09:47

planning on being there myself leaving  eastcastle street by Oxford Circus about 5.30pm on black/silver Gixxer 1000k4

Just started work here after 5 years in Hackney which was free and secure


Posted: 16/03/2009 at 16:39

Dear Westminster Councillor, Please don't desert Chalky in his hour of need. Bwahahaha!

The campaign have issued an open letter in response to Chalky's open email.

http://www.notobikeparkingfees.com/downloads/2009/16_march_2009_3pm_dear_westminster_councillors_warren_djanogly.pdf

http://www.notobikeparkingfees.com/2009/03/16/campaign-response-to-cllr-danny-chalkleys-letter-please-dont-desert-your-colleague-in-his-hour-of-need/


Posted: 16/03/2009 at 16:51

the cunts, I'm going now as well
 


Posted: 16/03/2009 at 18:59


"Perhaps it is now time for one of you to have a quiet word with Mr Chalkley..."

Or maybe a thousand... 


Posted: 16/03/2009 at 21:04

This is a question which I could probably find an answer to myself but my internet is incredibly slow right now. 

When they say that we should meet at trafalgar square, do thye mean ON trafalgar square?  We're going to get away with parking there I presume...?


Posted: 16/03/2009 at 21:56


Just glare at anyone in a blue suit with an overly large mobile phone, and you should be okay.


Posted: 16/03/2009 at 22:09

Or just arrive a bit late and see where everybody else is.

Posted: 17/03/2009 at 07:18


I'd imagine the obvious meeting point would be The Mall (the road that leads to Buckingham Palace).

Posted: 17/03/2009 at 07:25

The Mall? Not such a good idea. Look like you're loitering there and you're very likely to get moved on. I think the real answer is "wherever the Police put us". And my guess is that it will be the pedestrianised area to the north, by the galleries.

Posted: 17/03/2009 at 07:38

jbond wrote (see)
Or just arrive a bit late and see where everybody else is.

That's a top tip from the Blezard school of belated attendance.

Posted: 17/03/2009 at 08:19

Is that a Voyager I see before me? Ian?

It's not just Blez is it. We've got several other mutual friends who are perpetually late.


Posted: 17/03/2009 at 09:22

jbond wrote (see)

Is that a Voyager I see before me? Ian?

Might just be.

jbond wrote (see)

It's not just Blez is it. We've got several other mutual friends who are perpetually late.

This is true.

Apropos nothing - have a look at Tribbles busy weekend (there is a Quasar in it at the end)


Posted: 17/03/2009 at 10:30


zub
when is this demo again? and what time?

Posted: 17/03/2009 at 16:43


31st March. 3pm meet at the Ace cafe (Park Royal junc. A406 north circular). Ride on to Trafalgar Square. Then some time around 5pm ride to Westminster council offices (you don't need directions for there, just follow everyone else).

Nice and slow, it'll be, and no babies, virgins or sheep will be sacrificed, more's the pity...


Posted: 17/03/2009 at 17:30

Alan, those are arrival times.

Ace 3pm for 4:15 leave
Trafalgar Sq 5pm for 6:15pm leave
Victoria St 7pm till we get bored

If you can't make an earlier meeting point or don't want the longer ride, just turn up at a later one.


Posted: 17/03/2009 at 17:33


My bad...

Posted: 17/03/2009 at 17:36


zub
ahh thanks for that.

Posted: 17/03/2009 at 17:40

I'll be there - that's quite an over-the-top letter that seems to border on an attempt at being threatening.

Posted: 17/03/2009 at 17:40

"Furthermore, I strongly urge you to desist from actions which damage the West End economy. Your recent protest hindered hard pressed retailers and caused delay and inconvenience on many transport routes. These are not the actions of a responsible group. I call on you to cancel your protest ride on 31st March, which will inevitably delay Londoners seeking to go about their business, many on their journey home"

What about the long term damage done on the West-End economy? How many of us will choose to do their shopping where they can park for free? Loads of us choose over destinations where we are welcome to park Free.

Why will we cancel the demonstration?  No way... Shame that people will demonstrate only in London... Should be National


Posted: 17/03/2009 at 18:55

I stumbled over the minutes of a meeting where the same players in WCC were grilling a rep from TFL about the congestion charge and the western extension. They were using all the same arguments we've been using against them. The hypocrisy is quite staggering.

 "I strongly urge WCC to desist from actions which damage the West End economy. Your recent parking charge trial for motorcycles hinders hard pressed retailers and causes delay and inconvenience for many. These are not the actions of a responsible group. I call on you to cancel your trial before 31st March, which would inevitably help Londoners seeking to go about their business within the borough. I welcome you coming to listen to objections at the Built Environment Policy & Scrutiny Meeting, but even this is unnecessary and excessive. The meeting does not promote your arguments, and continuing the scheme will disrupt many Londoners with no part to play in the process."

There, I fixed it for them.

I'm starting to see this as The Bash Street Kids vs Mr Teacher "Chalky"


Posted: 17/03/2009 at 19:13

have to say that was the most polite intimidation Ive ever read, the Krays would be proud, well  done wcc for your own goal see you on the 31st


Posted: 20/03/2009 at 17:08

One week to go. Tuesday 31 Mar

Ace Cafe  - 3pm leave 4.15pm and ride to
Trafalgar Square  - 5pm leave 6.15pm and ride to
Victoria St Westminster offices  - 7pm till we get bored

If you can't get to one of venues and ride outs, then come along to the next one.

And bring all your friends, even if they don't ride bikes!

http://www.notobikeparkingfees.com/events/


Posted: 24/03/2009 at 07:57

I'll be there. Black, dirty TL1000S with road legal Quills (who's packing retired long long ago)

Posted: 24/03/2009 at 10:37

2 days to go and the weather forecast is looking good. It's going to be massive.

Posted: 29/03/2009 at 09:48

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