Digital cameras online from 15th February
The current cameras are analogue and the speed for enforcement is set at 93mph but they're set to be replaced by the new hi-tech digital units in February this year.
Keep 'em peeled!
Posted: 30/01/2008 at 10:20
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Posted: 30/01/2008 at 11:02
willyarms wrote (see)
I received this by e:mail this morning; no idea if there is any truth in it - somebody here may know?I have just been informed by my someone who works for the Metropolitan Police Service that as and from the 15th February 08 all the Speed Cameras in the Variable Speed Limit section of the M25 near Heathrow Airport (JCT 10-15) are going Digital and the activation limit is being lowered.They are currently the older film type cameras and Set at 90mph when the Variable Limit Signs are not in operation.The new digital cameras are going to be set at the normal 10% 0f the speed limit + 2mph (80mph + and your taking a risk basically) when the signs are not in use i.e. national speed limit. I can’t confirm the activation limit when the signs are set (variable limits showing) but believe it would be the same 10% + 2mph of the speed shown by the sign at that time.
I received this by e:mail this morning; no idea if there is any truth in it - somebody here may know?
I have just been informed by my someone who works for the Metropolitan Police Service that as and from the 15th February 08 all the Speed Cameras in the Variable Speed Limit section of the M25 near Heathrow Airport (JCT 10-15) are going Digital and the activation limit is being lowered.
They are currently the older film type cameras and Set at 90mph when the Variable Limit Signs are not in operation.
The new digital cameras are going to be set at the normal 10% 0f the speed limit + 2mph (80mph + and your taking a risk basically) when the signs are not in use i.e. national speed limit. I can’t confirm the activation limit when the signs are set (variable limits showing) but believe it would be the same 10% + 2mph of the speed shown by the sign at that time.
from the other thread
Posted: 30/01/2008 at 11:03
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Posted: 30/01/2008 at 11:22
Lucy wrote (see)
Hang on how come before 15th it's safe to do 93 mph and after that it's not? I can understand discretion in speeding issues but this seems to be doing the opposite!
I think the situation is that, if they set the limit at a lower limit, the cameras would run out of film very quickly and, once that happened lots of speeding motorists would get away with it, but by setting it higher, only the worst offenders get caught.
Digital cameras, OTOH, don't run out of film, and so can be set at the limit.
Posted: 30/01/2008 at 12:36
Posted: 30/01/2008 at 12:38
Bladerideressex wrote (see)
does anybody know just how variable these are??
FFS, I've been off the road for 4 years and I knew about that. Go find and archeologist
Posted: 30/01/2008 at 12:39
This is a bluff isn't it?
The old cameras would flash at an indicated 100+ but I never recieved any NIPs from them. I heard there was a despute over who managed them so they were never film enabled.
A change to digital would imply a major hardware up-grade but I haven't seen any work going on in the gantries.
Posted: 30/01/2008 at 16:37
I'm with Ten on this one
I've always believed that they were only 'on' when the variable limit was in use and have always ridden accordingly
Not had a nip yet
if they set them for 80ish they'll have to extend the DVLA computer building
Posted: 30/01/2008 at 20:34
I think it's bollocks, at the end of September 2007, AutoExpress published
Speed cameras on Britain’s busiest motorway are about to go digital.The M25 is currently controlled by wet-film Gatsos. But there are now plans to replace these with the latest electronic kit, according to a source at the Highways Agency. As a result, thousands more speeding motorists could face fines.Our insider claims the cost and time required to maintain the traditional traps – which can catch only 400 motorists before the film has to be changed – leads to many housings regularly being left dormant.But the source said that the new Highways Agency Digital Enforcement Camera Systems (HADECS), already being trialled on the M42, has no such restriction. “Many cameras on the M25 aren’t ‘live’, so speeding drivers are not being caught. But that will change when this new system comes in,” he said. “It automatically enforces variable speed limits – the kit takes the picture, and sends it straight to police for ticketing,” he said.A Highways Agency spokeswoman denied the claims, saying: “There are no immediate plans to introduce these digital systems on the M25.” However, she admitted that the agency was about to release the results of its recent consultation into the Active Traffic Management trials on the M42 –which include the HADECS pilot.
Posted: 30/01/2008 at 21:13
I've been NIPed by those cams before. However.... I took a gamble. Not long before it happened, I'd read on Pippo that some chap had contested his NIP from that section on the grounds that the ATC radar from Heathrow (most power civilian radar in europe, or something) potentialy interfered with the cameras. Hi case was dropped. So when I got my NIP....I completely ignored it (I had to really....I'd been nicked the ay before )......
....an I never heard from them again about it.
Posted: 30/01/2008 at 21:25
<<....an I never heard from them again about it. >>
Posted: 30/01/2008 at 22:44
So VisorDown goes the way of MCN reporting any old tat in there forums as News. You didn't need to pick up a phone to confirm this common sense would have done.
Are they being switch on on the 15th of Feburary I don't know but who ever wrote the e-mail knows nothing.
They have always been digital cameras it was a requirement of putting the system in.
Use some common sense did you see people up there every other day changing the film when the system was running. As anyone who commuted around the M25 in the late nineties (when the system was running) can tell you, it was working and it changed with the varible speed limits. How would it do this if there wasn't comms to the gantries.
It was switched off because of the change in the law. Remmeber when all the cameras suddely got those yellow backs so you could spot them. This was done to satisfy a requirement that the camera had to be clearly marked. Dispite the Speed Camera warning signs on the gantries on the M25 the actual camera couldn't be seen so they became illegal.
What has changed? Last year the law was changed from national to something local county councils can decide for themselves. So they can now chose to allow cameras that aren't clearly marked. Thats why that nutter Brunstrom is going on about steath cameras. I am sure this will see the switching on of the varible speed limit system on the M25 soon.
Any Auto Journlist worth anything should know all this.
Hope they do give ample warning it's coming back on as people now speed on the M25 all the time. Nothing new to see people doing 70mph when the varible limit is 50 or even 40mph.
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