Top Notts Cop claims speed guns are inaccurate - after being caught speeding

Superintendent Helen Chamberlain to challenge 79mph speeding charge

Posted: 20 August 2010
by Visordown News

A SENIOR NOTTINGHAMSHIRE policewoman has claimed a speed gun used to clock her speeding at 79mph in a 50mph limit was not accurate.

Superintendent Helen Chamberlain, 43, pleaded not guilty to a charge of speeding at 29mph above the posted limit when she appeared at Nottingham magistrates' court on Wednesday.

Chamberlian's solicitor, Ian Boddy, said much-publicised doubts over the accuracy of the type of speed gun used to clock his client would form the basis of the not guilty plea.

Mr Boddy also confirmed the pair would challenge the lack of warning signs on the stretch of road on which Chamberlain was caught, reports today's Daily Mail.

At the scene, Superintendent Chamberlain was given a verbal warning by the officer who stopped her, but this was escalated by a more senior officer who disagreed with the decision.

The prosecution has now raised questions over why the Chamberlain failed to challenge the caution at roadside.

The case continues.


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No doubt she'll get off scott free

Posted: 20/08/2010 at 11:50

I never realised a verbal warning was an option

Posted: 20/08/2010 at 12:37

I got a verbal warning once, he said don't let me catch you speeding again!

I don't stop now...


Posted: 20/08/2010 at 12:53

Interesting to see how this pans out.

Posted: 20/08/2010 at 13:37

filthy pigs.

Posted: 20/08/2010 at 14:16

so if i get caught speeding i can quote this articla and say that their speed guns are highly innacurate? good, lets go break some speed limits.....

Posted: 20/08/2010 at 15:07

so if i get caught speeding i can quote this article and say that their speed guns are highly innacurate? good, lets go break some speed limits.....

Posted: 20/08/2010 at 15:07

I hope VD keep track of this one.

Posted: 20/08/2010 at 18:57

she is going to walk with that aint she...or they fine her for the press,and fuck all will happen to her liscence

Posted: 20/08/2010 at 23:35


g f

Marks out of 2..??

I'd probably give er one..!


Posted: 21/08/2010 at 10:24

I'm sorry this is one of many of these Arrogant self righteous pricks to have got caught speeding. What happened to, Speeding is anti social, Criminal behaviour, dangerous blah blah blah.  I get it now, "only if we do it"  THEY are exempt. I hope they fuck her up and she looses her fuckin job and pension. Police should be cleaner than white so as to set an example to us. If not they should be made an example of. Courts are always making EXAMPLES of Bikers. Maybe a prison sentence would be in order and bump the ticket up to Dangerous driving 29mph over the limit?

Posted: 21/08/2010 at 13:17

I bet the poor plod who stopped her got the ''Do you know who I am ? '' routine ..

Fair play to his senior who pushed it further . Not that anything will come of it ..


Posted: 21/08/2010 at 14:53


Flo
SpeeLaT wrote (see)
I'm sorry this is one of many of these Arrogant self righteous pricks to have got caught speeding. What happened to, Speeding is anti social, Criminal behaviour, dangerous blah blah blah.  I get it now, "only if we do it"  THEY are exempt. I hope they fuck her up and she looses her fuckin job and pension. Police should be cleaner than white so as to set an example to us. If not they should be made an example of. Courts are always making EXAMPLES of Bikers. Maybe a prison sentence would be in order and bump the ticket up to Dangerous driving 29mph over the limit?
Bit harsh mate! I hope she gets treated the same way the rest of us would be- points and a fine commensurate with her earnings. It's a pretty safe bet this'll have a knock on effect on her career, something that's not necessarily true of most professions. With her job and the publicity already attracted to the case I recon her chances of getting off 'scott free' are pretty slender...

Posted: 21/08/2010 at 17:41

Flo Not Police by any chance?

I'm sick  of being bitched at by Police and Politicians about speed. Initially she got off with a CAUTION whilst being 60% over the limit.

How many people have you heard of getting a CAUTION for being 60% over the limit, put into perspective how many people have you ever heard being caught at 102MPH 70MPH +60%being just given a caution. It's one rule for them and one for us.  How about the Bikers who have landed criminal records and been sent to prison resulting in loss of jobs etc? No one should be above the law and all should be subject to it in EQUAL proportion.

As for affecting her job doubt it maybe a long time ago. Under recent freedom of information the Libdems obtained information about the fact we have convicted criminals still in employment as Police; Fraud, Theft, Violence, Perverting the course of Justice.

Whilst the idiot on the Busa who got caught speeding was sent to prison lost his job and had it not been for friends and do-gooders paying his mortgage during his stay at HMP  could have lost his home, I don't believe for one second her punishment will be anywhere near as severe. What example has she set?

Here's some more info, if your Police you already know this, 90,000 Police caught and only 354 tickets issued. remember "speed kills"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-458310/Fury-90-000-police-officers-caught-speeding-let-off.html


Posted: 21/08/2010 at 23:34


Flo

I don't know the specifics of her case SpeeLaT, but on the face of it she's challenging 79 in a 50. Hardly a hanging offence, I would have thought? I'm not plod, I don't like being patronised by the Feds and toerag politicos any more than you do, but I think she should be treated just like the rest of us. Not easier, not harder. If your wife/husband was clocked doing 80 on a by-pass would you be so keen to see them lose their job and pension? Much less spend time in the big house .

Some bikers have been grossly unfairly treated over the years, most haven't. I know bikers who've got away with well over the ton, just as I know one who's been banned for 97mph on a motorway. On the whole I don't believe we're treated worse than other private road users...

As to the mails claims? If that rag said the sun was going to rise tomorrow I'd get confirmation from another source before believing it.


Posted: 22/08/2010 at 13:23

 Daily Mail typical anti-cop propaganda

I don't mind cop-bashing where its warranted however this article is using figures that refer to cops on emergency calls AND if my memory serves me right they are allowed to exceed the speed limit and go thru red lights.

Ambulances do it and so do fire engines but we don't read about that - cos the Mail hates the cops.

If my bike was getting nicked or my old dear getting robbed up or some old war hero getting a kicking for his pension I wouldn't want the cops sticking to the speed lmit or stopping at red lights.

Getting back to the topic she should get treated the same as anyone else would be.


Posted: 22/08/2010 at 22:07

The magistrate took no account of that when a mate was done at 30 in 20 outside a school on a Sunday morning and he was one day away from dropping from 9 to 6 points. The three he was given got him a ban for 6 months. He needs a car for work and his wife had to give up her job to drive him around, the magistrate was told all this and chose to ignore it.

He should have been more careful..I know but so should this copper, I hope she gets made and example of.


Posted: 23/08/2010 at 17:42

My above post is replying to Flo's comments

Posted: 23/08/2010 at 17:43

Hang on a minute chaps.....missing the point here.

What if she wasn't speeding, that in fact the measuring equipment was indeed inaccurate.  Remember the whole issue about 'slip' errors with hand held laser detectors?  Or reflective harmonic frequencies of radar detectors??

What if she wasn't speeding and her case brings to light one of the biggest 'speed' cons ever, where people have been wrongly accused of speeding and for fear of retribution by the courts with bigger fines, they settle for the fixed penalty.

On the speeding ticket it does state that you can have your case heard in court without additional recompense to the offence, but we all know thats a load of shite cause if you end up in court you get more than the fixed amount.

What if your going to court for a crime you did not commit.

Also, dont forget the bullshit campain of 'speed kills'.  4% of ALL accidents are caused by excessive speed.  4 fuckin percent!  Sadly the only thing that can be measured at the side of the road is speed, so its the only one that will be used to police and fine you.

Where bad driving should be pulled, such as ten mile truck races on dual carriageways, or centre lane hoggin on motorways, or outside lane twat syndrome where the dick sees the slow moving car 3 miles ahead so stays out cause sometime soon he'll pass it.  What about drunk drivers and gary boys smoked up on weed, or the wankers who drive without insurance and tax and MOT??? 

Speed is the easiest to detect, easiest to administer a fine against, does not require you to breath or pee into anything.  But is it based on equipment that actually does not work?

I'm of the thought that shes too straight to speed, and knows it so stands a good chance of challenging it.  Accepting a road side verbal is just one way of letting it slide without affect to purse or career...the fact that some 'super' who she probably turned down at the last office party insisted it goes to the courts is going to annoy you a little...as she then has missed out on a choice of 'fixed penalty' or court appearance.

Lets see how this pans out, and NO I'm not a copper, and I fucking hate bad driving and more than that I hate 'speeding kills' slogans that are just not true.

Just to straighten out the last point:

'Speed does not kill....the sudden stop does'


Posted: 24/08/2010 at 05:40

IF SHE WINS HER CASE I WANT MR BLOBBY   TO REPRESENT ME , OR WAS IT BODY  . ANYWAY  IT WILL BE AN INTRESTING ONE .

Posted: 24/08/2010 at 14:45

This is nothing, the police get away with murder ,, reference Ian Tomlinson,  ,Jean Charles de Menezes and many, many more , its a club that we are not members of. I'll even wager shes on legal aid too.

Posted: 24/08/2010 at 15:36

60% over the limit and plod initially gives her a verbal warning.  I was 12 mph over the limit on an empty dual carriageway which had a temporary 50mph speed limit and you would have thought I had ploughed through a kids bus stop the way I was treated.  Consistency of convictions irrespective of who, what or where you are should be the only way to police our roads.  Don't get me wrong like most of us I regularly break speed limits on open and empty roads, but if I am caught I should receive the same treatment as the next man.

Posted: 24/08/2010 at 17:16

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