Speeding biker jailed by Facebook evidence

Posted: 01/07/2009 at 22:14

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Posted: 01/07/2009 at 23:08

bloody hell - the police really don't have anything better to do, do they, sounds like they've been determined.

Posted: 01/07/2009 at 23:49

iMarcus wrote (see)

bloody hell - the police really don't have anything better to do, do they, sounds like they've been determined.

Exactley.

99% of coppers are just a bunch of wankers.

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 00:48

Speedy. wrote (see)

99% of coppers are just a bunch of wankers.

While people who think they can lie their way out of a speeding offence are not? 

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 07:42

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 07:44

FatBoyTim wrote (see)

is that a statistic or a fact speedy?

Not just a statistic, but a fact.

FJSRiDER. wrote (see)

Speedy. wrote (see)

99% of coppers are just a bunch of wankers.

While people who think they can lie their way out of a speeding offence are not? 

Because, when the police pull us over, we all say " Its a fair cop guv ", don't we.  Only a cunt would admit anything to a copper, if he knew their was a slim chance of getting nicked.

The lengths the copper went to to nick the bloke just proves hes a wanker that would go to great lengths for such a trivial thing.

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 08:10

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 08:24

Speedy. wrote (see)

Because, when the police pull us over, we all say " Its a fair cop guv ", don't we.  Only a cunt would admit anything to a copper, if he knew their was a slim chance of getting nicked.

They thought their chance of getting nicked was slim.  But it wasn't.  They got his reg, he lied about riding the bike, they investigated and he got banned on the evidence posted on the internet.

Speedy. wrote (see)

The lengths the copper went to to nick the bloke just proves hes a wanker that would go to great lengths for such a trivial thing.

And the lengths the rider went to avoid it are not?

It does get even funnier (from the Telegraph)

Cox was arrested in January and struggled and fought with officers as he was detained.

I should think being locked up in jail for attempting to pervert the course of justice will  concentrate his mind somewhat and might make others consider the consequences of their actions.

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 08:25

More of  Speedy's usual bollocks...he is unable to see the wood for the trees..

Its an investigation tactic akin to terrorism...shoot a few to get the attention of the many..

peppipoo and similar sites have been full of crap advice like' tell them your Aussie cousin was riding it'...it was announced that the police would be checking these stories ( after all how many thousands of 'unknown mates' are on the road at any one time) ( especially when you read all the ' I would kill anyone that sat on my bike' posts that appear on the net???)

Serves the tosser right for not being man enough to own up to a £60 fine and 3 points...

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 08:47

gedge wrote (see)

More of  Speedy's usual bollocks...he is unable to see the wood for the trees..

Its an investigation tactic akin to terrorism...shoot a few to get the attention of the many..

peppipoo and similar sites have been full of crap advice like' tell them your Aussie cousin was riding it'...it was announced that the police would be checking these stories ( after all how many thousands of 'unknown mates' are on the road at any one time) ( especially when you read all the ' I would kill anyone that sat on my bike' posts that appear on the net???)

Serves the tosser right for not being man enough to own up to a £60 fine and 3 points...

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 09:10

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 09:12

Speedy. wrote (see)

gedge wrote (see)

More of  Speedy's usual bollocks...he is unable to see the wood for the trees..

Its an investigation tactic akin to terrorism...shoot a few to get the attention of the many..

peppipoo and similar sites have been full of crap advice like' tell them your Aussie cousin was riding it'...it was announced that the police would be checking these stories ( after all how many thousands of 'unknown mates' are on the road at any one time) ( especially when you read all the ' I would kill anyone that sat on my bike' posts that appear on the net???)

Serves the tosser right for not being man enough to own up to a £60 fine and 3 points...

You would say that though wouldnt you, you are an ex copper. 

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 09:18

gedge wrote (see)

Speedy. wrote (see)

gedge wrote (see)

More of  Speedy's usual bollocks...he is unable to see the wood for the trees..

Its an investigation tactic akin to terrorism...shoot a few to get the attention of the many..

peppipoo and similar sites have been full of crap advice like' tell them your Aussie cousin was riding it'...it was announced that the police would be checking these stories ( after all how many thousands of 'unknown mates' are on the road at any one time) ( especially when you read all the ' I would kill anyone that sat on my bike' posts that appear on the net???)

Serves the tosser right for not being man enough to own up to a £60 fine and 3 points...

You would say that though wouldnt you, you are an ex copper. 

I also said it because its right....

In principle yes, but I dont think it is, its not like hes drowning new born babies in a bucket is it, and the coppers gone out of his way to get it from a minor bit of stupidity to a prison term.

The guy obviously panicked when the copper pulled, told some wild fantasy crap story and instead of giving him a bollocking the coppers been a total tosser about it, he gone about it like the blokes some sort of serial killer.  You may not agree, but your not going to convince me any different.

And you expect me to think the copper was right?.

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 09:38

we just wanna be free, free to ride our machines wihout being hassled by the man.

And we wanna get loaded

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 09:39

Bobc wrote (see)

Serves him right, if he had been Man enough to take it on the chin he would have a £60 fine and 3 points.

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 09:39

 I do get the fact he broke the law and they've followed that up, but all that time and effort for a speeding offence?? Yet when I was knocked off,  hit and run, and there were CCTV units all round, Plod wouldn't follow it up as "not in public interest".

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 10:05

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 10:07

artschool wrote (see)

nothing the police like more than sitting on their asses surfing the internet "working".

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 11:13

FJSRiDER. wrote (see)

artschool wrote (see)

nothing the police like more than sitting on their asses surfing the internet "working".

Rather like most of us then. 

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 11:23

Sgt Les Moorhouse, of North Yorkshire Police, said the case was "a great example of the effective use of the internet as an investigative tool."

He added: "This case sends out a clear message to all riders coming into the county that North Yorkshire Police officers will leave no stone unturned in our efforts to bring dangerous and criminal road users to justice.

"It was shocking but, sadly, not surprising to discover that some people will go to great and calculating lengths to avoid being caught by the police."

Perhaps sadder is the great and calculating lengths that the police will go to on a traffic offence.

There is no way you can condone his behaviour but you MUST question the lengths that the police have gone to in order to convict one man for speeding (the original offence). It's ridiculous. 

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 11:25

Lostboysaint wrote (see)

Perhaps sadder is the great and calculating lengths that the police will go to on a traffic offence.

It's not (just) a traffic offence though is it?  The idiot made a rod for his own back. 

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 11:28

"Perverting the course" isn't a traffic offence.

Must say though, at 84mph, it wasn't a very fast race.

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 12:44

i thought that, especially on the A65

Gay fucker'll probably like it in jail

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 12:56

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 13:10

FJSRiDER. wrote (see)

Lostboysaint wrote (see)

Perhaps sadder is the great and calculating lengths that the police will go to on a traffic offence.

It's not (just) a traffic offence though is it?  The idiot made a rod for his own back. 

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 13:18

Its not exactly loads of effort they had to put in though was it? With all the spacebook and myface that people are using now you can find people fairly easily. So it’s maybe an hour on google, a couple of phone calls to the police in America and then the evidence fell in their laps.

One officer spending a mornings work teaching what sounds like a cocky twat that the police are not completely stupid and perverting the course of justice is a real crime seems worth while to me.

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 13:20

Speedy. wrote (see)

yes, but the officer could have given him a firm bollocking and left it at that hes hardley speeding like a mad man is he.  Taking the piss speeding in my book is 100mph +. 

It wasn't the speeding that he got sent to jail for though.  His mate got a £60 +3 points ticket at the roadside. 

Speedy. wrote (see)

You don't know why the bloke lied current points?, good bye to liscence?, but obviously he got pc pig when he got a tug.  Not saying the blokes right but things went a bit extreme.

He didn't wait around to find out if he had got 'PC Pig' did he?  He scarperd, got found, lied, refused to answer questions, put up a fight and sent to jail.

Cox by name cock by nature.

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 13:26

Once again there's shit being posted on here for the sake of getting a row going!

Read my post again, the ORIGINAL offence was speeding. 

Yes, the bloke was a twat for hiding it, yes he was eventually jailed for perverting the course of justice and yes he made a rod for his own back.Yes he is a cox!!

But is it really THAT important an offence (the speeding) for the constabulary to get so zealous about? For every minute they were on the web chasing down this master-criminal there were many other offences going on in their area. How well protected do you really think the population of that region feels knowing that other offences were being carried out whilst this bloke was being across the virtual world just so they could say "you were doing 84, and you lied and we found you out!" When was the last time a little scroat who'd been vandalising/theiving was tugged because they'd raided his house and found the same clothes as on a CCTV picture? 

It's a pathetic use of resources. 

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 14:25

What so they're supposed to just let it go if you run off and say 'it was my mate from America' are they?

If he DID have 9 points already, then maybe he should have slowed down a bit.

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 14:29

Lostboysaint wrote (see)

But is it really THAT important an offence (the speeding) for the constabulary to get so zealous about?

The bit you seem to be having trouble with is that they are not 'getting 'zealos' over the speeding - they were finding out why he buggered off.  Could be any number of reasons couldn't it? 

Once they found him he lied and they checked his alibi.  Or would you have every copper believe whatever they are told?  

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 14:51

IMO it was coming to him.  He obviously has no self control on a bike.  seems to be a good bit of police work. 

Last boy saint: - i can see your point.  There are a lot more worthy crimes that need to be investigated more than speeding. 

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 15:42

But if everything was prioritised like that and all police time was spent on more serious crimes then petty crimes would rocket. There needs to be a bit of policing for lesser crimes or a lot of people would just ignore the ‘less important’ laws because they would know they would get away with it.

If you let people who flee from police and then lie when they catch up with them get away with it as it’s not important then what message does that send out? Where do you draw the line? Is speeding not worth perusing? What about running red lights? Leaving the scene of an accident? Shoplifting? It’s a slippery slope if you go down the route of deciding which laws are not important.

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 15:59

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 17:52

I'm gonna hate myself for saying this but I'm with FJS on this.

Its one thing to get done for speeding its quite another to try perverting the course of justice. He was speeding (ok), did a runner (fair), got caught (boo), lied about it stupidly and got done for it.

Having said that a criminal conviction for basically being a stupid w4nk3r can seem a little harsh when seen from some angles but I guess the CPS wanted to make an example of him 'pour encourager les autres' as it were.

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 18:11

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 19:57

I agree it was too harsh a sentence. But I don't agree that the police were wasting their time.

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 20:01

Doolybhoy 1 wrote (see)

FUCKIN HELL!!! Jail time for lying to the police, oh heaven help us..imagine lying to the police...oh my goodness what is the world coming to.

Posted: 02/07/2009 at 20:09