Road deaths at record low, say Government

Fatality rates per passenger are still highest for motorcyclists, regardless of whether this is measured on a per kilometre, per journey or per hour basis - around 40 to 60 times greater than the equivalent rate for car users.

Posted: 25/09/2008 at 14:53

Road deaths are low because no fucker can afford the petrol to use them.

Posted: 25/09/2008 at 14:55

Naturally the police and government will claim this as their own work. But I think it's far more likely to be the result of constantly improving car and tyre design.

Posted: 25/09/2008 at 16:37

Melmoth wrote (see

Fatality rates per passenger are still highest for motorcyclists, regardless of whether this is measured on a per kilometre, per journey or per hour basis - around 40 to 60 times greater than the equivalent rate for car users.

No shit?   Complex this rocket science thing isn't it?

I wonder if there's lots of money available for research into this?  

Posted: 25/09/2008 at 17:10

Who pays people to do this "research"?

Motorcycling will always be the most dangerous form of transport - it's in it's nature. The only way to stop it is ban it.

As to that comment about the price of fuel: I can't believe that people will do stuff like sell a car (and lose a packet) and buy another (and lose a packet) etc etc to buy a "more economical" model - check out the running costs of any car or bike. Generally speaking the fuel cost isn't the biggest factor taking into account all other associated expenses.  I've just taken advantage of this hysteria and bought a fabulous new (to me) car - 5 litre V8. Cost per mile (in fuel) over my previous 2.3? 20ppm vs 17ppm. That's simply lost in the noise of overall ownership costs.

Posted: 25/09/2008 at 22:17

Orb the Impaler wrote (see)

Who pays people to do this "research"?

I don't know but I will quite happily take maybe £500,000 off the government's hands to do research into it, and come up with similar figures.

Posted: 25/09/2008 at 23:14

Some suggestions for your research:

• Does wanking make you go blind?
• Does my dog get jetlag?
• How do woodpeckers cope with heaadaches?
• Do animals have accents?
• Is stabbing myself really dangerous?

Posted: 25/09/2008 at 23:20

Does anyone believe anything this tosspot government says???

They are mainly lawyers all highly trained in the twisting of facts and figures!!!

Posted: 26/09/2008 at 00:50

Most high mileage car drivers are using nice safe motorways, whereas most bike journeys are on much more hazardous roads - out in the sticks or in city centres dodging moronic car drivers, pedestrians and cyclists.

It's hardly surprising that cars are safer per journey or km - I certainly don't find thrashing my company Mondeo up and down the A1 to London very challenging or dangerous

Posted: 26/09/2008 at 07:26

Could the apalling weahter AGAIN this summer have something to do with it perhaps ??

The fact it has been shite and next to no one has been out riding would clearly have an impact on the number of accidents and therefore fatalities !!

Where do I get my research grant from ??

Posted: 26/09/2008 at 07:37

tezzer wrote (see)

Could the apalling weahter AGAIN this summer have something to do with it perhaps ??

The fact it has been shite and next to no one has been out riding would clearly have an impact on the number of accidents and therefore fatalities !!

Where do I get my research grant from ??

well at least someone knows whats really behind the statistics , i couldn't believe all the other shite i was reading , i'm thinking all along , "  it's the weather  " but nobody else had commented about this . The vast majority of deaths are on hot summer days out in the countryside , i haven't seen much of either of these this years .

Posted: 26/09/2008 at 08:25

timberman wrote (see)

tezzer wrote (see)

Could the apalling weahter AGAIN this summer have something to do with it perhaps ??

The fact it has been shite and next to no one has been out riding would clearly have an impact on the number of accidents and therefore fatalities !!

Where do I get my research grant from ??

well at least someone knows whats really behind the statistics , i couldn't believe all the other shite i was reading , i'm thinking all along , "  it's the weather  " but nobody else had commented about this . The vast majority of deaths are on hot summer days out in the countryside , i haven't seen much of either of these this years .

I don't believe that it's the case that the majority of deaths are in hot summer days is it?  The worst accidents happen in the early hours don't they?

But these figures are from 2007 so your argument is immediately flawed.

Plus they are saying that the bike injury rates are highest for motorcyclists, and I believe you are suggesting that  might reduce during a particularly cool summer . 

Of course it may well be the case that motorcyclist injury rates reduce but still be highest of all vehicle types.  

Posted: 26/09/2008 at 09:28

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 Sorry but statistics can be adjusted to say whatever is required , bad weather = less motorcyclist on the road = less deaths . plain and simple .

Posted: 26/09/2008 at 12:20

Of course they can.  I don't think that was ever in debate.  Fact is it's probably right to say that Motorcyclists are the most commonly injured party on the roads.  But as I said before, it's not rocket science, and probably anyone with half a brain could have a reasonable stab at why.

Posted: 26/09/2008 at 13:37

2007 - that makes me one of the injuries on the road in the stats.

I'm craving fame & fortune

Posted: 26/09/2008 at 18:47

It been proven that 73% of all statistics are made up.

Posted: 26/09/2008 at 18:52

Guvvermint figures always used to put a smile on my face when they would go on about drink driving...like the fact they state that 25% for example, of all road deaths are the cause of drivers being over the limit.

So in that case the other 75% of road deaths involved sober drivers.....so according to official guvvermint figures drink and driver is safer than whilst doing it sober.

 See you can prove owt with numbers, tis easy!

Posted: 26/09/2008 at 18:56

I read somewhere that horseriding is the most dangerous form of transport. I'll stick to the bike , I think.

Posted: 27/09/2008 at 06:15