No hiding place for traffic offenders
New EU plans allow cross-border pursuit of road traffic offenders
EUROPEAN UNION transport commissioner Jacques Barrot has unveiled plans to allow for the cross-border pursuit of foreign car drivers and motorcyclists who flount traffic laws in other European countries.
Barrot wants to put a Europe-wide information and enforcement system in place whereby offenders can be traced, prosecuted and have penalties imposed. The new law, which must be approved by a qualified majority of EU member states, covers four offences – speeding, drink-driving/riding, jumping a red light and driving without a seatbelt.
Authorities in the country of origin of an offender will be obliged to provide the name and address details of the owners of cars or bikes caught on camera or stopped by the police.
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They have been talking about information sharing for years...so far they havent managed to even get it right for rapists and paedophiles so I reckon it is some way off, and many of years or legislation changes in each country to get such a plan to work.. More EU hot air..tough on the motoring, tough on the causes of motoring
Posted: 21/03/2008 at 18:43
Go to Thetford and theres more foreign drivers than British ones. Lithuanians, Poles, Russians, Portugese, Roma's, Pikeys, Silly old farts with tweed caps on, children in Saxo's. Bloody EU are all tossers Sod the foreigners and their EU laws they can poke them where the sun dont shine  rant over
Posted: 21/03/2008 at 18:49
Go to Thetford and theres more foreign drivers than British ones. Lithuanians, Poles, Russians, Portugese, Roma's, Pikeys, Silly old farts with tweed caps on, children in Saxo's. Bloody EU are all tossers Sod the foreigners and their EU laws they can poke them where the sun dont shine  rant over
Is that because the locals struggle to drive with webbed feet and six fingers..or are they too busy marrying their sisters
Posted: 21/03/2008 at 18:50
Thats Ely, Chatteris, Fenland in general. Thetford's quite dry and used to be full of exiled Londoners. Now it's exiled earthlings! 
Posted: 21/03/2008 at 18:56
Trouble is traffic fines are a good source of revenue whereas rapists and pedos are lowlife scum for which we pay a fortune lock up. The legislation is virtually in place already. Some years ago I was working in a job which involved supporting some Police IT systems which had to interface with PNC. As I was leaving the system was being modified to comply with the Schengen Agreement requirements, amongst which was the sharing of data between partner countries, most if not all of whom are in the EU.
Posted: 21/03/2008 at 18:58
Go to Thetford and theres more foreign drivers than British ones. Lithuanians, Poles, Russians, Portugese, Roma's, Pikeys, Silly old farts with tweed caps on, children in Saxo's. Bloody EU are all tossers Sod the foreigners and their EU laws they can poke them where the sun dont shine  rant over
Is that because the locals struggle to drive with webbed feet and six fingers..or are they too busy marrying their sisters
Gedge, question. You are quick to be offended by people generalising by calling gypo's 'pikeys' etc, yet you find no problems in abusing the feelings of people that live in the styx. You have just offended me with your post above....How do you justify that from your moral high ground.
Posted: 22/03/2008 at 12:05
Rat, you have offended me by being offended so easily. How do you justify your actions?
Posted: 22/03/2008 at 12:14
I justify it as a deliberate poke at someone who was having a deliberate poke at other races..I rather expected him to react the way that you did TBH So it's ok to offend me, because of how you have been spoken to by someone else?
It was meant in jest to point out the ridiculousness of blaming all the driving ills of the country on foreigners..my apologies if you were genuinely offended 
Not the genuine tone of my apology as I could have easily just said that coming from Norfolk is neither a race nor a religion and therefore it is perfectly okay to poke fun and abuse people on that basis
Posted: 22/03/2008 at 12:15
Rat, you have offended me by being offended so easily. How do you justify your actions?
Get over it you long haired hippie......  I justify it as a deliberate poke at someone who was having a deliberate poke at other races..I rather expected him to react the way that you did TBH So it's ok to offend me, because of how you have been spoken to by someone else?
It was meant in jest to point out the ridiculousness of blaming all the driving ills of the country on foreigners..my apologies if you were genuinely offended 
Not the genuine tone of my apology as I could have easily just said that coming from Norfolk is neither a race nor a religion and therefore it is perfectly okay to poke fun and abuse people on that basis
Gedge, not really overly offended by it tbh... I was just pulling you up on it...  (my cousin is far better...;))
Posted: 22/03/2008 at 12:24
Rat, you have offended me by being offended so easily. How do you justify your actions?
Get over it you long haired hippie......
I justify it as a deliberate poke at someone who was having a deliberate poke at other races..I rather expected him to react the way that you did TBH So it's ok to offend me, because of how you have been spoken to by someone else?
It was meant in jest to point out the ridiculousness of blaming all the driving ills of the country on foreigners..my apologies if you were genuinely offended 
Not the genuine tone of my apology as I could have easily just said that coming from Norfolk is neither a race nor a religion and therefore it is perfectly okay to poke fun and abuse people on that basis
Gedge, not really overly offended by it tbh... I was just pulling you up on it... 
Thats twice this weekend I have been pulled up...I must be getting lazy
Posted: 22/03/2008 at 12:25
This is unreal - my first post "racist - reported" was a bit too prophetic. How come the moment anybody posts anything that vaguely involves Johnny Foreigner on here, then the BNP pop up and start a rant. I thought the point of this thread related to us on our travels abroad and a warning that our immunity from prosecution was potentially coming to an end.
Posted: 22/03/2008 at 12:32
Who blamed all the driving I'lls in the country on foreigners? I just want the foreigners who drive like tossers over here brought to book like the indiginous population are. Didnt realise bikers had all become PC poofters. And just for the record Its difficult to be racist to any other european as they are the same race as me, that including those of Indian extraction. Being British is a state of mind and culture and has nothing to do with ethnic origin. I suggest you lot just ride your bikes and dont try anything to interlectual like writing as its obviously too much for your small minds. If thats the reaction you had in mind, please take it with pleasure. If not ignore it I couldnt care less. I live in Norfolk as after 25 years growing up in North London I quite like to live among my own people, just as the hoards of foreigners who come here do when they group together and bring down the local areas they take over. If it's good enough for them it's good enough for me. And no I'm not BNP but the like of you PC prats will soon make me!
Posted: 22/03/2008 at 16:42
Who blamed all the driving I'lls in the country on foreigners? I just want the foreigners who drive like tossers over here brought to book like the indiginous population are.
And just what makes you think that they aren't brought to book over here???
A Pointless rant about the introduction of a simple piece of EU legislation..as someone else pointed out the agreement has been in place over the rest of europe for some time, and its actually about cross border pursuit and information exchange rather than cross border prosecution....
Posted: 22/03/2008 at 16:50
Who blamed all the driving I'lls in the country on foreigners? I just want the foreigners who drive like tossers over here brought to book like the indiginous population are. Didnt realise bikers had all become PC poofters. And just for the record Its difficult to be racist to any other european as they are the same race as me, that including those of Indian extraction. Being British is a state of mind and culture and has nothing to do with ethnic origin. I suggest you lot just ride your bikes and dont try anything to interlectual like writing as its obviously too much for your small minds. If thats the reaction you had in mind, please take it with pleasure. If not ignore it I couldnt care less. I live in Norfolk as after 25 years growing up in North London I quite like to live among my own people, just as the hoards of foreigners who come here do when they group together and bring down the local areas they take over. If it's good enough for them it's good enough for me. And no I'm not BNP but the like of you PC prats will soon make me!
Whoa, slow down there.
The first post was light-hearted, the second one was aimed more at the assumption that it's always "foreigners" who are in the wrong. They have their faults, as do we when it comes to ability and awareness (neither of which are directly linked to the curent definition of standards within the DSA). As for the rest of your rant - grow a thicker skin, you'll need it on here.
Posted: 22/03/2008 at 16:59
Phew, thank fuck it will still be OK to drive whilst on the phone and not be pursued. That will be a relief to all the young girlies and white van men.
Posted: 22/03/2008 at 17:57
I dont need a thicker skin mate, twats Mr know it all Gedge need one. I happen to KNOW they get away with it because our wonderful law enforcement system will not chase any traffic violations overseas which includes Europe. If Gedge can sit on a forum and pontificate to the sum of 13000 posts his bike must have no miles on it and live in solitary confinement in a garage as he is obviously a computer geek with only 'cyber' mates to impress. Bye I'm off to see some 'real' people who live on the same planet as most of the population. = 13000 posts Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Posted: 22/03/2008 at 18:54
I dont need a thicker skin mate, twats Mr know it all Gedge need one. I happen to KNOW they get away with it because our wonderful law enforcement system will not chase any traffic violations overseas which includes Europe. If Gedge can sit on a forum and pontificate to the sum of 13000 posts his bike must have no miles on it and live in solitary confinement in a garage as he is obviously a computer geek with only 'cyber' mates to impress. Bye I'm off to see some 'real' people who live on the same planet as most of the population. = 13000 posts Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Another one bites the dust - see if you break 50 posts on the next forum, before your dummy goes flying out the pram.
Mummy, mummy, mummy    
Posted: 22/03/2008 at 19:00
I dont need a thicker skin mate, twats Mr know it all Gedge need one. I happen to KNOW they get away with it because our wonderful law enforcement system will not chase any traffic violations overseas which includes Europe. If Gedge can sit on a forum and pontificate to the sum of 13000 posts his bike must have no miles on it and live in solitary confinement in a garage as he is obviously a computer geek with only 'cyber' mates to impress. Bye I'm off to see some 'real' people who live on the same planet as most of the population. = 13000 posts Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out..
I have a house, a wife , 2 kids, a job, friends , hobbies blah blah blah..If I have a high post count ( although spread over 5 yrs of membership it doesnt amount to much really...................) its because twats like you keep posting inaccurate drivel and I get enjoyment from showing you up I also managed 8000 miles on my Tuono, 2000 miles on my Supermoto and close on 20000 miles in my car....as for chasing offenders abroad, look into some fatal accidents involving foreign lorry drivers, and the numbers of foreign lorry drivers brought before the courts in the UK. as for chasing things abroad..thank fuck they dont do it reciprocally..only the French and Spanish camera operators would probably want a word with me.. I suppose if you have fucked off I have wasted anopther 5 minutes typing this..C'est la vie
Posted: 22/03/2008 at 19:16
Not at all. I can see i got you going by the need you had to tell the world your life story to try and prove your not a geek, in which you have failed dismally. Thats a fair mileage though for a 50cc Aprilia or are you over 16? Suppose you must be with house and kids. Oh and I bet the jobs in IT Hahahahahhahahahahhaha
Posted: 23/03/2008 at 16:40
Mummy, mummy, mummy    
Not at all. I can see i got you going by the need you had to tell the world your life story to try and prove your not a geek, in which you have failed dismally. Thats a fair mileage though for a 50cc Aprilia or are you over 16? Suppose you must be with house and kids. Oh and I bet the jobs in IT Hahahahahhahahahahhaha
Why didn't you quote me, I could do with a laugh.
Btw - I think Gedge is retired plod, so bad guess
Posted: 23/03/2008 at 16:45
Retired plod! Hahahahahahahahahah  In IT What got fed up of arresting 12 year olds for having offensive comics?
Posted: 23/03/2008 at 17:08
Retired plod! Hahahahahahahahahah  In IT What got fed up of arresting 12 year olds for having offensive comics?
I thought you left. Are you a scouser? You seem to be upset about a lot
Posted: 23/03/2008 at 18:46
Retired plod! Hahahahahahahahahah  In IT What got fed up of arresting 12 year olds for having offensive comics?
Got paid off nicely after 30 yrs of taking the piss out of wankers like you...I thought you had flounced  or has your mummy made you come back to play with the grown ups? only we usually charge for baby sitting...
Posted: 23/03/2008 at 20:44
this is killing me this thread....love it! in the same vein as the original post....Devon and Cornwall fuzz have just issued a table with the amount of foreigners that are getting done on the roads down here......up over a hundred percent in a couple of years..and thats just the ones that are getting caught. the majority of them down here are uninsured, untaxed, pissed up....and thats not being racist...thats a fact unfortunately. One of my mates is a patrol plod, but has mates in traffic, and he reckons that nearly every eastern european plated vehicle they pull down here is illegal in some shape or form. The trouble is they always produce some document written in lithuanian/estonian/polish whatever... and claim its their insurance policy. without getting a translator how is poor pc traffic plod going to know...most of them arent particularly good with english, never mind a foreign language!! A couple have admitted to not bothering getting involved with foreign plated vehicles unless they are involved in an RTA.
Posted: 23/03/2008 at 23:46
this is killing me this thread....love it! in the same vein as the original post....Devon and Cornwall fuzz have just issued a table with the amount of foreigners that are getting done on the roads down here......up over a hundred percent in a couple of years..and thats just the ones that are getting caught. the majority of them down here are uninsured, untaxed, pissed up....and thats not being racist...thats a fact unfortunately. One of my mates is a patrol plod, but has mates in traffic, and he reckons that nearly every eastern european plated vehicle they pull down here is illegal in some shape or form. The trouble is they always produce some document written in lithuanian/estonian/polish whatever... and claim its their insurance policy. without getting a translator how is poor pc traffic plod going to know...most of them arent particularly good with english, never mind a foreign language!! A couple have admitted to not bothering getting involved with foreign plated vehicles unless they are involved in an RTA.
Someone must be dealing with them for the figures to go up..maybe the couple you know are just lazy bastards..
Most forces run specific operations to target foeign lorry drivers which will account for a large proportion o those figures...and ask Foxy ( probably in the other place) he will tell you that most trafpols consider them easy pickings and are quite happy to deal with them
Posted: 24/03/2008 at 08:08
Make the bastards speak English or kick em out. Better still nail em up at Dover as a warning. Oh yeah
Posted: 24/03/2008 at 08:36
I wish they would hit on them more gedge, there are literally thousands of them down here in cornwall, there are caravan villages springing up all over the place, and of course these caravans are the ones that are too shagged out and have been chucked by holiday camps etc...they are rotten. it's like frigging Bosnia during the war with thousands of displaced people in temporary accomodation. My mrs is a community midwife and as a lot of these eastern european girls are now getting knocked up , my mrs has to go out to these shanty towns to see them. I have had to go with her as 'security' a couple of times as a lot of the lads on these sites are drunk every night and day that they aren't working. They think the NHS is the greatest thing since free vodka but get very annoyed when they demand ludicrous things from the midwives and health visitors, the latest one was angry because the nhs wont provide her with a cot, pram and baby clothes!!!
Posted: 24/03/2008 at 08:44
I wish they would hit on them more gedge, there are literally thousands of them down here in cornwall, there are caravan villages springing up all over the place, and of course these caravans are the ones that are too shagged out and have been chucked by holiday camps etc...they are rotten. it's like frigging Bosnia during the war with thousands of displaced people in temporary accomodation. My mrs is a community midwife and as a lot of these eastern european girls are now getting knocked up , my mrs has to go out to these shanty towns to see them. I have had to go with her as 'security' a couple of times as a lot of the lads on these sites are drunk every night and day that they aren't working. They think the NHS is the greatest thing since free vodka but get very annoyed when they demand ludicrous things from the midwives and health visitors, the latest one was angry because the nhs wont provide her with a cot, pram and baby clothes!!!
Sounds like the Costa Brava where UK plates and uninsured Brit cars litter the streets and the local population is out numbered by non native speakers demanding attention...
and at night wandering the streets pissed and loud causing the locals to demand they be sent home... It appears we all have our crosses to bear..( easter pun...)
Posted: 24/03/2008 at 09:39
In all seriousness, I used to holiday in Cornwall but your right it's become a Eastern European dumping ground cos we're too soft with social security. I have come to the conclusion that Gedge is just anti-British. Seems anything to slag us off pleases him. I dont care about Brits abroad. They should bloody well mix with the locals or come back here. If people in Spain dont like them, send them back here! The Germans and the French had the sense not to allow this just our stupid Labour government lets the shit of the world decend on us. Vote UKIP get us out. Oh, and bang up all the stupid tosser foreign lorry drivers. and Hahahahahahahahhahahahaha
Posted: 24/03/2008 at 10:23
I suggest you lot just ride your bikes and dont try anything to interlectual like writing as its obviously too much for your small minds .... And no I'm not BNP but the like of you PC prats will soon make me!
In all seriousness, I used to holiday in Cornwall but your right it's become a Eastern European dumping ground cos we're too soft with social security. I have come to the conclusion that Gedge is just anti-British. Seems anything to slag us off pleases him. ...... Vote UKIP get us out.
Absolute class 
"Interlectual"?
Small minded? It's reading crap like this posted by intellectual pygmies like you that reminds me why I don't visit this forum much these days.
Posted: 24/03/2008 at 18:57
50 posts. had enough winding you saps up try somewhere else now Byeeeeee I'm a troll fol de rol Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha
Posted: 24/03/2008 at 20:17
Thought you had already gone..make your mind up........... I for one will miss your incisive wit and intellectual repartee as well as your encyclopaedic knowledge of UK law and foreign policy... cock
Posted: 24/03/2008 at 20:22
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