Multiple TT champion escapes custodial sentence after judge tells court he needs help rather than punishment
Molyneux, 44, was sentenced earlier today after last month admitting the attack on wife Gaynor, causing actual bodily harm. The attack happened just hours after he finished as runner up in the second sidecar race at this year's TT on June 4.
Molyneux had gone out drinking before grabbing his wife by the throat and pushing his hand against her face.
Sentencing Molyneux, High Bailiff Michael Moyle said: 'Domestic violence is an ugly offence. It is distasteful when a man raises a hand towards a woman.'
Mr Moyle said Molyneux needed help rather than punishment.
Posted: 10/07/2008 at 23:34
Every 1 on the I.O.M knows it
Posted: 10/07/2008 at 23:38
Except him obviously??
Why do women keep taking the arseholes back?
I'd never do it and would think today that once is too often, get out!!!
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 00:02
It can be more complex than that tho'
been there(years ago) got the t'shirt
won't do it again
but folk do
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 00:05
You're right. Just looking at it from what I know. Which ain't much.
The ex wife had a battering of her first husband regularly until someone told her its not supposed to happen. She was very naive. I suppose there still naivegirls out there?
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 00:09
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 00:15
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 08:20
My sister-in-law split from her bloke and ended up in one of those refuge centres for battered wives. Social Services involved, restraining order on him. He'd been beating her up for about 3 years, more or less since they got together.
Six months later, she's back with him and he's still doing it about 4 years on - in the meantime, she's managed to have another litter of kids to keep their benefits up.
Glad Mrs L has no contact with her at all.
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 09:35
My sister married a violent alcoholic. When I found out what was going on I went round and beat the shit out of him and told him I'd be coming back if I heard about any more nonsense. Following week I found out that he beat the crap out of her again and she begged me not to interfere. I went round and really gave him a good hiding. He fucked off and she blames me for wrecking her marriage.
What can you do to help if they wont help themselves?
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 09:40
AC wrote (see)
Absolutely spot on
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 09:43
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 13:59
My sister married a violent alcoholic. When I found out what was going on I went round and beat the shit out of him and told him I'd be coming back if I heard about any more nonsense. Following week I found out that he beat the crap out of her again and she begged me not to interfere. I went round and really gave him a good hiding. He fucked off and she blames me for wrecking her marriage. What can you do to help if they wont help themselves?
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 14:50
Ilike2thinkso wrote (see)
You're right. Just looking at it from what I know. Which ain't much. The ex wife had a battering of her first husband regularly until someone told her its not supposed to happen. She was very naive. I suppose there still naivegirls out there?
it isn't that simple. if you take the first hit/beating and think it'll be the only one, your confidence and ability to believe in yourself is eroded. It only takes the belief that the guy didn't mean it/won't do it again/loves her always/want to look after her/etc to make some girl want to try again. You can't believe that the person you thought you loved could possibly really be that violent. So you accept the apology, and life goes back to normal - till next time.
After a couple of next times, you have no confidence, no belief in yourself and so no strength to leave. An awful lot of these guys also put the blame on the woman - if you didn't wind me up/if you had tidied up/if you hadn't looked at me in that way etc. Once you believe it is your fault, you spend all your energy trying to make sure you don't 'cause' another beating.
If kids are part of the family, some women think - he's a good dad, so I can cope with a slap once a week in preference to deprivng my kids of their dad.
Its all horrid, and control is the big part off it. The sadest thing is, once you are in the cycle, it is virtually impossible to find a way out.
zub wrote (see)
AC wrote (see)My sister married a violent alcoholic. When I found out what was going on I went round and beat the shit out of him and told him I'd be coming back if I heard about any more nonsense. Following week I found out that he beat the crap out of her again and she begged me not to interfere. I went round and really gave him a good hiding. He fucked off and she blames me for wrecking her marriage. What can you do to help if they wont help themselves?exaclty what i would've done! nothing like taking justice into your own hands, well we all know the courts would have just given him a slap on the wrist anyway.
nothing but what you did - lifes a bitch huh?
as for Moly - no way is that the first time he's done it, just the first time he's been caught. Sadly, his wife has probably had it drummed into her that she's worthless, ugly, its her fault, she won't be able to survive on her own, she'd have no friends if she left etc etc. There are so many reasons women take the arseholes back.
And no - its not personal experience of the problem, but having worked in the pub trade for twenty years, you see and hear a lot (the interaction in public before the beating in private is scary and sad), and I have family that have had to 'escape' and who is still trying to keep a drug dealing violent father away from her child
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 17:42
oh - and a mate who is a solicitor had a woman go in to see him for a divorce. The couple had been married for 35 years or something (very very long time!) - she told the story that hubby went out on the beer every saturday night, and when he got home she got a slap/punch. SO my mate's thinking that this is going to be a simple (ish) case to sort - BUT
She wants a divorce because he stopped bringing her breakfast on sunday morning. All through the marriage, he'd hit her on saturday night, make breakfast on sunday morning and then they'd get along as normal till next saturday.
But because he stopped bringing her breakfast she wanted out. She didn't get that she would have to cite the violence for the divorce - that just wasn't her reason - wierd huh????
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 17:46
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 18:27
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 18:45
needs a good kicking !!!
Posted: 11/07/2008 at 23:50
What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?
Nothing, you've just told her twice.
Posted: 12/07/2008 at 10:29
I got a Crim Record for being hit by my wife. She threw a glass of wine over me threw my handheld computer down the road when I tried to get the phone from her she hit me I called police and I get arrested.
All Id say is DONT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS just keep an open mind. The Police Dont!!!
They see a 6ft 2 man and a 5ft 2 woman as an easy assumption. Since my subsequent divorce I have not had a row with my new partner for 4 years.. for what its worth... men can be violent but so can women and they can be more subtle in their complaints!!!
Dont slag me off, just get an open mind!
Posted: 15/07/2008 at 17:59
totally agree - women can be violent AND evil. Nasty combination. But a lot of people know this guy/met him/ know people that race with him, and there isn't much good said about him, or suprise at the charges.
Glad you seem to have a good one this time around
Posted: 15/07/2008 at 18:45
I know nothing about this case but couldnt help butt in.
Thanks smixxy I have wonderful woman this time.
seems I got on the wrong track... maybe he is nasty, maybe he had a manipulating partner. as I said, keep an open mind and dont make guys do 150 hours Community service and get a record when you dont know the facts. Not the police facts the real facts .
Posted: 15/07/2008 at 18:54
Those that have said "don't jump to conclusions are right - but by the sounds of it - a judge (possibly a jury) and plenty of family members, friends and other witnesses have already clarified what went on with this sidecar bloke...
Hard faced and manipulative women are a problem though, especially if the guy in the equation has been brought up properly - I have 15 years conventional boxing, 3 years kick boxing, 9 years working club doors and 2 years working "security" alongside certain high profile business execs in Africa and none of that protects me against a nasty bird - simply cos' I can't hit one - it's not in me, however, 5 minutes with a wife/child beating or kiddy fiddling bloke and that's another story...deeply unpleasant things would be done to the aforementioned filth bag...that is a surety.
Maybe, we should trust the beak in the Molyneux case...
Posted: 16/07/2008 at 18:22
Posted: 01/10/2009 at 11:20
you had over a year to think about that reply
Posted: 01/10/2009 at 11:38
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