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Ministers to 'push back' against EU legislations

Under-Secretary of State for Transport says PM has given him permission to strongly oppose anti-bike legislations

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Posted: 19 January 2012
by Visordown News
Mike Penning MP, Under-Secretary of State for Transport

MIKE PENNING MP, Under-Secretary of State for Transport, has said that Ministers will fight against the EUs move to impose anti-biking legislations.

The EU want to introduce new technical regulations to motorcycles that could see ABS become standard on all bikes from 2016 and measures that would prevent owners from tuning their bikes.

In an interview with BMF magazine, Motorcycle Rider, Penning gave his view on some of the legislation suggestions raised by the European Parliament: "I don’t think they are hugely beneficial to any of us and I have permission from the Prime Minister to push back as strongly as possible on them.

"The European Parliament has no power to legislate and, if for some reason, legislation did come through to Ministers, we will vote against it if necessary."

Mike Penning, who is a motorcyclist himself having first started riding as an Army despatch rider and currently owns a Ducati Monster and a Royal Enfield, added: "At this time this just is a suggestion from the Commissioner. The way it works in Europe is that the bureaucrats decide the policy and then the politicians vote on it, which is exactly the opposite of what happens here. But I can assure you we will push back on it."



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mobus
GOOD!

Posted: 19/01/2012 at 14:16


George's Shed
well done, is he on twitter?

Posted: 19/01/2012 at 15:48


SCBonneville
hmmm... battling bureaucrats ruling from on high, off in a distant land...

Why doesn't the UK merely secede from the EU? They're near the tipping point on the fiscal front as it is... at least "rattle the saber", so to speak with the threat of secession and see who blinks first...

After hearing and reading about all the problems that EU membership has brought to individual member countries, just what does membership bring to the table for each member? It sounds as if each country has surrendered its' national sovereignty...

Posted: 19/01/2012 at 16:24


Garcher
Good on him finaly a politician with half a clue

Posted: 19/01/2012 at 16:55


mobus
Im not into politics in a big way really, theyre all as slimy as each other if you ask me. But if im not wrong wasn't the eu setup to basically prevent another world war from starting in europe? why didn't they stick to that objective instead of becoming a massive interfearing nanny state that pushes insane health and safety bullshit and creates more porblems that it solves?

(rant over... for now)

Posted: 19/01/2012 at 17:02


sav man
Looks like the french have done it again ,any device with a speed camera warning in or on yer vehicle will slap you a fine of about 1200 quid from 01 o1 2013 as you dare to venture onto french soil,the hi vis thing is bearable but how are they going to police the speed camera warning device ? maybe they have developed a warning device to warn them of your warning device who cares ?jump the ferry to santander or the hook and bypass the fuckers all together........

Posted: 19/01/2012 at 17:26


SCBonneville
Hey Sav Man... not sure if you are talking about radar and/or laser detectors... I'm not sure what signal a speed camera emits... I'd think it was some form/wavelength of radar.

I do know that in Virginia (USA), radar detectors are illegal and the cops do have radar detector detectors... They can pick up the weak signal emitted from your unit... and yes, they will confiscate it and give you a nice ticket/fine... No where near 1200 quid "nice" though...

Not sure if there are laser detector detectors or not... But laser detectors work basically "instant on" device, along with instant on or pulsed radar... it makes dodging those types of speed checking pretty difficult...

But I do get your point...

Posted: 19/01/2012 at 22:34


mikeprytherch
would your iphone with something like CamerAlert software on it constitute a speed camera detector ?

Posted: 20/01/2012 at 09:26


sav man
Article in MCN says sat navs or any phone quote (TECHNOL0LOGY THAT WARNS ABOUT SPEED TRAPS)page 7 MCN 18- 01- 2012 Also says A country famous for introducing laws so stupid even the EU ignores them !!!!!!!!!

Posted: 20/01/2012 at 15:46


Vroum Vroum
Hi, I'm (sadly) a french dude (more and more thinking about getting the hell out of Froggyland).

To answer your question: yes, along this law, having a cellphone with software providing information about radars would be an infraction. But on this particular case, cops would need a warrant from a judge to put their noses into your phone (in France at least, cops don't have the right to check into electronic thingies possibly containing personal datas, unless a judge allows them to, which won't happen at the side of the road)...

... yes, thinking more and more about getting the hell out of France, and even out of continental Europe (slightly left or right winged, ultra-statists are ultra-statists).

Posted: 21/01/2012 at 05:43


sav man
Hi Vroum Vroum,dont take it to bad its not your doing thanks for the clarification never seem to get the complete story unless we delve deep,but aint that what we all do on when threatened by the bureaucrats and politicians ,some of them are clever and well educated but not one has an ounce of common sense or lives in the real world (rare exceptions?)

Posted: 21/01/2012 at 21:56


Vroum Vroum 2
No worry, sav man: if I take it bad, it's because I have to live with the pain of ultra-statism every day; and it's getting on my nerves. It's not my fault, but it's a burden nonetheless.

I'm in my early thirthies, and grew up near the Dieppe/Newhaven crosschannel path: each and every weekend of my 80's/90's youth, I had the chance to see real motoring lovers coming from your side of the Channel, using their marvels like they were meant to be (and never saw bad accidents or overly agressive behaviours). And I eventually became a pistonhead myself (whatever the number of wheels I use, or if it even has wheels, I love it).

And now, all this madness about hygienism is starting to go really out of proportions. Add to that the need of the ultra-state to take larger and larger portions of your income, for its own sake and subsistance, and to get in your way for every silly reason it sees fit (especially when you're trying to build things and give jobs to people)... and well: one day, I'll end up packing and leaving. The more time goes on, the more I'm sure of it.

I haven't always considered the state as a burden more than anything else, and am globally law-abidding. But too far is too far: especially when things just look like they'll get worse and worse.

Kudos to you for still having politicians who 'push back' against the insanity. We for ones do not have such rare specimens anymore. Not even in zoos.

Posted: 22/01/2012 at 03:12


sav man
YEAH VROUM VROUM 2,I hear where you are coming from ,the trouble with the Europe thing is we have to take the rough with the smooth,i understand the need for heath and safety legislation etc ,but the extremes that we have to endure are sometimes nothing short of idiocy,the construction industry across Europe has always been that you are your own safety officer,not any more ,risk assessment before you can sweep the floor. My problem with this modern day life is coming to terms with the radical and extreme changes that affect us all in every day life and so often the are the result of the few dickheads that want to flaunt the law or are so careless they are a danger to others so we all suffer.I am one of the old farts who had a 250 Francis Barnett on the road on my sixteenth birthday and rode through the sixty's with no speed cameras etc and not the volume of traffic that we have today.If we all move toward a common goal bikers will always challenge the nonsense, from wherever you hail!

Posted: 22/01/2012 at 16:01


BikerBookworm
Thank God for:
1. A Conservative government; Labour are so 'nanny' orientated they just bend over...
2. MAG who have lobbied so hard and for so long over this.

Posted: 24/01/2012 at 13:18


fastbanger
Yeah,good on yer Sav man,ditto "old farts," I rode a Triumph Tiger Cub (Latin Name "Cubus Wreckus" 'cos it ate big-ends and mains for breakfast) from me 16th birthday onwards,and I'm sick to death of the bloody EU regulations for everything from wiping your arse to blowing your nose.We did alright then,we can do alright now,sure there will always be dickheads riding 'bikes,you can't legislate for that,but they'll soon be "extinct" just like the ones that I knew way back.

Posted: 24/01/2012 at 13:20


fastbanger
Biker bookworm,you're right of course about Labour bending over but,you forgot to mention that they do it with their kacks round their ankles!

Posted: 24/01/2012 at 13:23


fastbanger
Er sorry,that was "kecks" round thier ankles.

Posted: 24/01/2012 at 13:25


User 55049
Given that it has been reported that the EU committee pushing these proposed regulations forward is chaired by a British Tory MEP, why doesn't the PM just have a quiet word rather than issuing these attention-grabbing headlines?
Internal squabbles or right hand not knowing what the further right hand is doing?

Posted: 24/01/2012 at 16:21


svenny
"Push back as strongly as possible".... I'm afraid this translates to "roll over and play dead"
My two penn'orth......

Posted: 24/01/2012 at 16:51


bmwonder
Excellent. Respect where it's due. Nice one Mike.

Posted: 25/01/2012 at 08:23


Hugh Jarse
A Tory Govt? You're a turkey voting for Xmas. They're all millionaires but I bet you aren't. Get a life, get a brain.

Posted: 10/05/2012 at 21:09

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