Manx court jails speeding UK biker for two months

Prison for doing 100mph on a straight bit of road???? The Judge should be jailed himself for that kind of sentence! It's disproportionate and hugely hypocritical when the scumbags that really make life miserable for the honest working folks are getting community sentences and in some cases, conditional discharges.

The excuse used by the Home Office for not sending proper criminals to prison is that the prisons are overcrowded....obviously with bikers who go over 60mph on straight roads!

I'm, disgusted.

Posted: 16/12/2009 17:31

Eric Hunt - What a stupic comment!

This idiot broke multiple laws, endangered the lived of other road users. Morons like him and muppet views like yours give motorcyclists a bad name.

 The biggest crime here is the poor English used in the story above!

"Glossop his riding was also banned him from driving for two-and-a-half years" WTF?

Posted: 16/12/2009 17:43

The offence was on the Isle Of Man, which is not subject to UK Laws, so this has fcuk all to do with the Home Office.

Posted: 16/12/2009 17:44

Wow, and I thought I was opinoinated! lol!

Dave Smith 2, I didn't realise you were there, perhaps you could explain the "multiple laws" that were broken. From the circumstances, I can really only see speeding and perhaps careless driving, but I wasn't there, so I don't know. The clue, however, is in the text....this young man has gone to prison having been convicted of SPEEDING. Nowhere is there any other offences mentioned that contibuted to his sentence.

Mr R1 Loon, whilst the Manx laws are indeed largely independant of English law, the legal system is based on English common law, much the same as it is in Scotland. Laws made in the IOM require the assesnt of The Queen and the United Kingdom Parliament at Westminster still legislates for the Island in respect of some subjects which are of common concern to the Isle of Man and the United Kingdom.

Now, I'm sure if you two are real bikers, you NEVER go over the speed limit and neither of you have travelled at over 100mph on your bikes. But imagine if you did....and you got caught....and your sentence for speeding included a spell inside....I wonder how your gums would be flapping then? Especially if the little so and so who burgled you house last week got off with community service. 

Put it into perspective guys, 2 months inside for speeding is lunacy, particlularly as no-one was hurt or (as reported) adversly affected.

Posted: 16/12/2009 18:42

Anyone know what the speed limit is where he did over 100mph? I thought it was unlimited outside towns and villages on the IOM. Unless he was doing 100 in a 30 limit, this sounds very harsh.

Posted: 16/12/2009 19:02

Eric Hunt wrote (see)

Wow, and I thought I was opinoinated! lol!

Dave Smith 2, I didn't realise you were there, perhaps you could explain the "multiple laws" that were broken. From the circumstances, I can really only see speeding and perhaps careless driving, but I wasn't there, so I don't know. The clue, however, is in the text....this young man has gone to prison having been convicted of SPEEDING. Nowhere is there any other offences mentioned that contibuted to his sentence.

Mr R1 Loon, whilst the Manx laws are indeed largely independant of English law, the legal system is based on English common law, much the same as it is in Scotland. Laws made in the IOM require the assesnt of The Queen and the United Kingdom Parliament at Westminster still legislates for the Island in respect of some subjects which are of common concern to the Isle of Man and the United Kingdom.

Now, I'm sure if you two are real bikers, you NEVER go over the speed limit and neither of you have travelled at over 100mph on your bikes. But imagine if you did....and you got caught....and your sentence for speeding included a spell inside....I wonder how your gums would be flapping then? Especially if the little so and so who burgled you house last week got off with community service. 

Put it into perspective guys, 2 months inside for speeding is lunacy, particlularly as no-one was hurt or (as reported) adversly affected.

"Some subjects which are of common concern", of which traffic laws clearly aren't one. They don't have a National Speed limit on the IOM, provisional licences are offered at 16, and mobile phone use whilst driving is a criminal offence, not an endorseable one.

The IOM has the oldest parliament in the world (The Tynwald) and is fiercely proud of it's independance from the UK. The punishment meted out was described as "applying consistency" so car drivers have clearly suffered the same fate.

However, my issue was that you took this as a chance to have an erroneous pop at the UK government (who are a pile of shit btw).

Do I speed? Yes frequently.

Have I been caught? Not at those speeds

If I was do I expect punishing? Yep, loss of licence for a long priod and possibly jail (I'd spend a fortune ot keep me out of there though)

Posted: 16/12/2009 19:45

I'm with eric.

Hurrumph.   

Posted: 16/12/2009 21:48

Maverick Renegade wrote (see)

I'm with eric.

Hurrumph.   

Aaaaargggghhhhh bumboys    

Posted: 16/12/2009 22:06

I should give up motorcycling.  Video games are not ilegal, yet.  But I'm just too old to make the transition.  More's the pity.  In the future you will probably be allowed to ride on public roads only if a flagman precedes you by 100 feet, warning all that a motorized vehicle is coming.  I believe the U.K. was planning a "demonstration" project in 2010.  A select number of cars, trucks, busses, and Motorcycles would be fitted with a GPS sending location information to a master computer that would have data on the posted limit on all 17,000 miles of public roadway in the U.K.   If you exceed the limit, poof, the engine managment computer will reign you in.  No jail time.  I hope that free men everywhere will rise up  in protest.  But I doubt they will.  You folks set the record for gatsos per mile.  I can see where the future is leading and I don't like it. 

Posted: 16/12/2009 22:56

do any IOM regulars know that stretch? What's the speed limit there?

Posted: 17/12/2009 12:25

More details. A 29-year-old English biker who rode dangerously around the TT course at high speed has been jailed for two months for dangerous driving. David Brian Glossop, from Wilmslow in Cheshire, admitted the charge in relation to the incident, which happened just after this year's Manx Grand Prix. The prosecution said a police motorcyclist with a video camera was travelling on the Cronk y Voddy straight towards Kirk Michael when he was overtaken by a bike at the crossroads, approaching a blind bend. Glossop's bike went around two more blind bends on the wrong side of the road and was clocked by the police officers at a speed of over 100 miles per hour as he reached a 60mph zone. He slowed down to below 30 mph through Kirk Michael village where he was stopped by police and given notice of prosecution. His advocate Hazel Carroon said the defendant could not offer any explanation for his actions. He was very remorseful and she urged for a suspended sentence. Glossop had a previous conviction for dangerous driving in the UK in 2007 which he had admitted to her - though the prosecution had no knowledge of this. Mr Moyle said he was giving credit for the defendant's honesty in admitting the charge, but he had to be consistent in sentencing. He told Glossop his riding was extremely dangerous and banned him from driving for two-and-a-half years.

Posted: 17/12/2009 13:26

Dave Smith 2, what's with the holier than thou attitude?

 Perhaps you need to take up a different hobby.

 Jail and a two and a half year ban is madness. 

3 months and £300 would be more like it.

His speeds were not even excessive in my view. 

Posted: 18/12/2009 22:37

Do bans handed out in the IOM count on the mainland?

Posted: 19/12/2009 08:33

BraveCat wrote (see)

Do bans handed out in the IOM count on the mainland?

Yes

Posted: 19/12/2009 17:24

   Wrong side of the road on blind bends guys,i think that was his downfall,how would you feel if you had been coming in the opposite direction keeping a nice tight line ?

Ive been to the island and seen the aftermath of a head on more than once, usually when a german forgets where he is and rides on the wrong side,not pretty.

I might add that ive done more than my fair share of speeding and find this governments obsession with 'road safety' oppressive at least,misguided,and frankly ridiculous.

Posted: 20/12/2009 17:28