Linked speed cameras that can track a vehicle and work out if they have broken the speed limit at any point during the trip are being tested in the UK.
The linked system works out the average speed over large distances, then looks at possible routes to and from start and finish points and calculates if the vehicle has sped at any point.
Speaking in the paper, a Motorists Against Detection spokesman said: "If this goes live, it would lead to even more motorists losing their licences – and possibly their livelihood.
"Why should the police hammer motorists while the real criminals get away scot-free? The idea is to trial this kit out so they can roll it out on every straight stretch of road in the country. The only people who will benefit are the technology firms behind the cameras. People are still dying on our roads."
Thirty-four cameras are fitted on a five-mile stretch of the A13 in east London from Canning Town to the Gorsebrook interchange. They are also being used in tests to enforce a 20mph limit on a residential London street, and in pilot schemes in Scotland and Nottingham.
The system is similar to the average speed check systems already in use. According to the Department of Transport, the introduction of the speedtraps would be at the discretion of Safety Camera Partnerships across the country.
Posted: 16/04/2008 at 12:04
It just gets worse
and to make it even more annoying, the wreckless, uninsured and unregistered car drivers will continue to get away with it, because they will never be able to trace them
Posted: 16/04/2008 at 12:09
dont work if you stop for a fag break now and again though?!... seems pointless unless there's thousands of the things everywhere.
I'm with you forest, this country's immigration 'problem' will soon turn to an emigration problem if this crap continues...
in the words of Tupac.... shit gets worse..
Posted: 16/04/2008 at 12:31
Ummmm, a similar concept has been in use in France for years using toll tickets.
Just because a system is being tested doesn't mean it'll ever be adopted - believe it or not, public opinion/pressure still does amount to something.It'll also cost millions and millions to implement and get right - we can't get a few luggage bags from T5 to their owners so what do you reckon the chances of this happening for real actually are?
Stop being so easily led by drama queen journalism folks.
Posted: 16/04/2008 at 12:45
"and then work out if they have broken the speed limit at any point during the trip"
So no overtaking either then!
Posted: 16/04/2008 at 12:51
Do you really think any other counrty will be better? In Australia for example they often put two vans out with a few hundred yards between then. You see the first van then open it up and get nicked by the second one. They were doing that when i lived there ten years ago!
Posted: 16/04/2008 at 13:08
I agree Nige, it probably wont happen ..not for a little while yet .. until the technology gets better and public opinion changes.. but really its symptomatic of the nanny state bollocks that we have to live with day in day out...
Dont know whether it'd better in any other country... probably most in most of 'em it would..
Posted: 16/04/2008 at 13:16
For the sake of my sanity ( I know grammar and spelling etc is out of fashion on this forum..BUT)
It's RECKLESS no ferkin W
Everytime I ride without an accident I am riding wreckless..ie without wrecking anything....
Its also riding without due care and attention...if I gave something undue care I would be being more careful than necessary.
Posted: 16/04/2008 at 15:37
gedge wrote (see)
For the sake of my sanity ( I know grammar and spelling etc is out of fashion on this forum..BUT)It's RECKLESS no ferkin WEverytime I ride without an accident I am riding wreckless..ie without wrecking anything....Its also riding without due care and attention...if I gave something undue care I would be being more careful than necessary.and breathe
Easy now Gedge, tis a yoof thing. In 20 odd years the same guys will be fulminating just like you.
(but it is irritating)
Posted: 16/04/2008 at 15:58
'fulminating'......word of the day
congratulations Cousin Jack
Posted: 16/04/2008 at 16:11
It's simple. Just clone someones plate and then you are free to ignore all the rules of the road, including tax and insurance with no fear of proscecution as there will be even less coppers on the road.
It will be far too hard (and expensive) to try to catch you and it will be much easier to simply fine the generally law abiding drivers who pay their taxes etc. and excess insurance to cover those that don't bother and simply change their 03 plate into a 53 plate.
Posted: 16/04/2008 at 17:36
Posted: 17/04/2008 at 10:32
Even more reason to go Racing.
there trying to make it as unenjoyable to ride a bike as they can.. Wankers all of em!!
Posted: 17/04/2008 at 10:57
Mr Marv wrote (see)
Even more reason to go Racing.there trying to make it as unenjoyable to ride a bike as they can.. Wankers all of em!!
Last time I looked bikes don't have forward facing numberplates...
Posted: 17/04/2008 at 11:02
Posted: 17/04/2008 at 11:10
So according to the article:
"The linked system works out the average speed over large distances, then looks at possible routes to and from start and finish points and calculates if the vehicle has sped at any point."
The system decides if you have been speeding at any point based on possible routes!!!!!!
Posted: 17/04/2008 at 12:37
Posted: 17/04/2008 at 12:39
Over short distances maybe.
Of course you could simplify it, use sensors only located in areas where the speed limit is constant between the two, like most urban areas. Or motorways and many trunk roads.
For anything more you need an accurate database or mapping of speed limits, does such exist? And LOTS of processing power, given the volumes of data and the almost infinite permutations.
However, an effective system only needs to know the minimum time for legal travel on the shortest route between the two sensors.
Posted: 17/04/2008 at 13:14
Posted: 17/04/2008 at 14:18
" and in pilot schemes in Scotland and Nottingham."
Ive not seen anything in nottingham. Apart from the fuzz pulling over EVERY bike they see..
Posted: 17/04/2008 at 15:35
Posted: 17/04/2008 at 22:23
This is bollox - can you imagine the evidence produced:
We did some maths on a computer and reckon he's been speeding, there's no photos or calibrated evidence, just a hunch really
Posted: 17/04/2008 at 22:25
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