Council blames rise in casualties for decision
EALING COUNCIL is to scrap their motorcycles in bus lanes experiment which they started in 2009.Ealing council state there were significantly more motorcylist casualties, mainly caused by cars turning across bus lanes into side junctions. Original claims for the bus lane trials suggested there would be a 40% safety benefit to motorcyclists, by giving them access to bus lanes.
The council considered data from the London wide experiment on Transport for London roads and data from motorcycle crashes on Ealing roads. The increased casualties in Ealing were similar to those on the TfL roads.Cycling groups have lobbied against motorcycle access to bus lanes since day one and it seems that they may start to get what they're looking for if other councils follow suit. It's worth noting that in both trials cyclist casualties were higher than expected.
Posted: 14/01/2011 at 16:18
So is this just Ealing borough stoping motorcycles using bus lanes with yellow lines or is it stopping motorcycles using red routes (enforced by TFL)?
It must have cost thousands to change all TFL bus lane signs to show a motorcycle on each sign post.
The trial period has been running since Jan 2009, and was extended by Boris in July 2010.
Posted: 14/01/2011 at 16:54
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Posted: 15/01/2011 at 14:31
Not totally related but still a lot of truth is said in jest.
Posted: 15/01/2011 at 22:53
Posted: 17/01/2011 at 00:45
I'm prepared to accept that maybe, just maybe, bikes in bus lanes is not the good idea idea most of us (including myself) like to think it is. But everyone seems to have taken the claims of Ealing Council lying down. Has anyone actually questioned Ealing Council? EXACTLY what statistics are they claiming back their actions?
Posted: 17/01/2011 at 20:04
Do you know something . See these lying fuckers on pedal bikes , they are becoming a pollution . Whats needed is that they pay road tax for having the use of our roads , seeing as they seem to have more power over us who do .
Not only is motorcycles more enviromentally frendly we still get pumped up the ass for tax when some cars pay fuck all .
Posted: 20/01/2011 at 13:32
How do you figure motorcycles are more environmentally friendly?? Than what?
They generally have only one rider and in traffic will do no more than about 20mpg. Scooters and 125 are a lot better in that respect.
Keep your arguments realistic and others are more likely to listen.
I'm probably in a minority as a cyclist as well as a biker, but I have to say that I see a lot more idiotic cycling than riding or driving. However, we need to be realistic. There's no training or licence required to ride a bike, so unfortunately you will get morons. It's very hard to train this stupidity out, because there's no formal structure for it, so we have to give cyclists more of a buffer zone.
When there are more than a couple of them in a bus lane, I tend to avoid it altogether. The only things less predictable are toddlers and animals.
As much as I like to be able to use bus lanes, I don't honestly believe it's safer for anyone.
Posted: 20/01/2011 at 15:29
Posted: 20/01/2011 at 17:22
I agree with KAWA7900. It's interesting that when road tax went up it was afflicted on all road users equally. But when taxing based on CO2 emissions was introduced to save the planet (read, make more money for the government) bikes were all of a sudden excluded due to "lack of research in the area of motorcycle CO2 emissions". Interesting that they could tax us based on BHP performance and CO2 when it made them money but suddenly have no idea about it when it works out that most of us could ride and not pay and road tax.
If they claim to have no idea about our CO2 emissions, then why do they force me to have a dustbin on the side of my bike instead of an exhaust so i can meet euro clap trap level 3???
To Adams point about bikes only having one person on them, how many cars do you see in rush hour full up? How many cars do you see stuck in a row of one up bikes? Not many, how many bikes do you see stuck in a row of badly positioned one up cars....
I ride in the bus lanes but treat the whole thing as a constant give way and i'm prepared to brake and give way to the idiot car drivers that are crashing into us and getting US banned from the lanes.
Posted: 28/01/2011 at 12:58
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