DCT: Clutchless Pants?

No, it's mint, actually

Posted: 9 July 2012
by mark forsyth
Knee trembler

Picked up my long-term-test DCT Crosstourer last week from Honda HQ near Heathrow.

British people might like to notice that this was one of the days this ‘summer’ where the sun was shining. It’s not photoshop and it’s not artificial lighting. It’s that sun thing.

But the moment I lined the front wheel up with my loading ramp, a thought dawned on me. Er, no clutch. This being the dual clutch, semi-auto version, there isn’t even a clutch lever fitted at all. There is a hand-brake, though.

Normally, I load bikes into the back of my Ranger pick-up by walking along side, first gear engaged, engine running and control the loading speed up the ramp on the clutch.

It’s a ridiculously high pick-up bed and when a bike weighs close to a third of a tonne it focuses the mind, for sure. Off road bikes are a doddle, though.

My technique is a two-stager: to kill the motor when the front wheel’s in the back – issue the trusted helper with instruction just to keep the bike level - while I jump onto the tailgate to perform part two of the handlebar operations.

This loading method, while looking very risky to onlookers, hasn’t gone wrong yet After three years and at least one knee-trembling K1600 BMW involved, I reckon I’ve got the technique pretty well licked. I’d best shut up. I might just have tempted fate.

Ta da!

But back to Honda HQ: Matt from Honda had a brainwave. Load the Crosstourer onto a 7.5tonner’s tail-lift, raise it to the appropriate height and then back the Ranger up to it and just roll the bike from one vehicle to another. Three feet up in the air.

I had my video running just in case we were going to get YouTube gold but it worked a treat.

Could've done with this at unloading time, really

I’ve only clocked a few hundred miles on the bike so far but that massive luggage means you really do find that the car gets used less and less. Hard luggage may look like an ugly ‘lifestyle’ afterthought but boy is it useful. That noise you can hear is myself eating my words. Hard luggage? I’ll take it all back.

Oddly, the Crosstourer’s hard luggage is soft-hard luggage. It’s made of ABS plastic and coloured to look like aluminium. It is, however, very light and pretty good on the waterproof front although is does leak in a monsoon through the hinges as my map-book discovered. The mounting and un-mounting mechanism for the panniers and the top box is a doddle. Simple, quick and clunk-click self-assuring. The lack of ugly pannier brackets (they’re integrated into the pillion footrest hanger and body work) is a design masterstroke.

The most interesting thing about the DCT, though, is other people’s reactions. Pillions love the it. Out back, the ride is rock solid, surefooted (that’s the immense weight and the earth’s gravitational effect pinning it to the ground) roomy and comfortable. The pillion pegs are maybe an inch too high for most, though.

The strange farty sound from the exhaust tailpipe on up-shifts is really popular with pillions, too.

That’s cool farty as opposed to un-cool farty.

It’s only a noise that a big-bore, growly V-4 that changes up a gear in five billionths of a nano-second is capable of emitting. For that reason, it’s a very unique sound. 

Adventure lifestyle collision

I’ve let a couple of people have a quick blast on it, as well. My advice to every DCT first-timer is to leave the flappy paddles alone, stick it in auto-mode and treat it like the fastest scooter you’ve ever ridden.

Someone (they shall remain anonymous) who works for a rival manufacturer had a go on it last week. They (non-gender specific) were blown away and could only utter, ‘that’s amazing, that’s amazing’ to sum up their virgin DCT experience.

For me, on bikes like this that are designed to be ridden a long way, all day and every day, the DCT version offers one obvious and distinct advantage.

Let’s face it; big mileages on a bike are tiring. Anything that lets your weary conscious mind focus better on what lies ahead has to be a good thing, doesn’t it? And the shift up and down the DCT box are immaculate every time – if they weren’t my argument would be pointless.

I hope by the end of (ha,ha) summer I can find things wrong with the DCT. Other than not being to be able to ride it up a ramp into the back of a pick-up bed, that is…


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For me, on bikes like this that are designed to be ridden a long way, all day and every day, the DCT version offers one obvious and distinct advantage."

Just my opinion, but on long distance riding, what causes most fatigue is the lack of a cruise control, not automatic shifting. On the daily commute yes, automatic shifting can save a lot of left hand sore. But a great article nonetheless.

Posted: 10/07/2012 at 15:24


FRE
On a Suzuki SV site, one rider stated that for tens of thousands of miles he has shifted without the clutch and experienced no problems resulting from it. Actually, it's quite easy to do and can be very smooth. So, why should the left hand become sore from shifting during commutes?

With the DCT, I'd be concerned with low speed control. Generally, at car park speeds, it is necessary to ride the clutch to achieve smooth control, but that would be impossible with the DCT. However, if the throttle is not excessively sensitive at low speeds, perhaps lack of a manual clutch is not a problem.

But yes, a cruise control would be nice. Lack of one hasn't really tired my right hand, but on rolling terrain combined with variable winds, maintaining a constant speed without cruise control is exceedingly difficult and requires constant glancing at the speedometer.

Posted: 10/07/2012 at 19:29

Shifting is the only thing that keeps me awake on any bike on along trip - that and avoiding dual carriageways like the plague.

Posted: 10/07/2012 at 20:33


MF
I have a lot more to say on this subject - like a book's worth - and I hear your concerns. More to come in the next few weeks/months.

My point isn't about clutchless shifting. Anyone worth their salt can perform a slick, smooth, clutch free upshift. It's not about the physical exertion (?) of using a clutch lever. You misunderstand FRE.

Clutchless downshifts? No. Not good for the dogs on the back of the gears. That stuff is best left for motocross riders. My thoughts on that are probably best left unprinted.

It's not just about the correct timing of a shift, it's the correct execution and the perfect marriage of throttle and clutch too. That's a lot of brain function when you've also got a passenger's comfort and serenity to think about and also a never seen corner, a never seen surface and any number of horrors possibly lurking around that never seen corner.

With DCT you just twisty and blast. Point and squirt. You have the time to look even further ahead than normal, think about stuff you wouldn't normally have time to think about and that's my point - time to think about things that really matter - line, approach speed, peel in points, exit points, drive out.

Has anyone ridden a Yamaha TMAX (the World's best scooter)? It's kind of close, just a lot, lot faster and more bike-like. With a better soundtrack because it actually has six stepped gears and a familiar-ish soundtrack.

In car-land, VW and Audi make the best twin clutch autos around. Flappy paddle shifts are so good that a manual box is just an antique, clunky, labour intensive hindrance by comparison. Like cars, these bike DCT systems will only get better and better.

Pedrosa and Stoner are using a rule-compliant variation on the DCT theme.

Is that food-for-thought-enough?

Posted: 10/07/2012 at 21:24

Just done a year and 16k miles on my VFR1200 DCT. It's a great system and I can't find any fault with it. Even low-speed manouvering and filtering are a doddle.

I agree, it let's you concentrate on more important things, which is useful when 'making progress' with the assistance of the eager V4.

These systems will just continue to improve and I hope they find a wider audience amongst the traditional types. Anyway, there's always the excellent paddle shift, if you don't like auto mode.

My advice is give it a go...don't knock anything until you've tried it!


Posted: 11/07/2012 at 11:36


MF
My point exactly, Quickbrew. Knock nowt 'til you've tried it...

Posted: 11/07/2012 at 21:06

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