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Learn to ride with Visordown: Restricted or not?

Direct Access isn't for everyone. Here's why 33bhp might be the best route for you

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Posted: 30 August 2007
by Tim Skilton



Some riders flourish learning on a big bike - some don't...


ONCE YOU'VE completed CBT and Theory/Hazard Perception tests, the next decision you'll need to make is which sort of licence to go for. The majority of new riders over 21 years old opt for the Direct Access Scheme, which validates their licence to ride large-capacity machines straightaway. Those that aren't so concerned with riding a big bike immediately often settle for a Restricted Access, or A1 licence, which allows holders to ride machines up to 33bhp for the first two years. So which one's for you?

Direct Access

The Direct Access Scheme (DAS), which first appeared in 1997, requires candidates take their test on a bike of 47.7bhp or more and is an ideal route for those wanting to gain an unrestricted licence as quickly as possible. But before you rush out and book a course it's worth remembering that DAS isn't for everyone. Many novices, particularly smaller candidates, struggle controlling the bigger 500cc machines at low speeds, finding manoeuvres like the U-turn a major hurdle. This results in added pressure on the candidate, especially if they're booked on an intensive course, as it often takes longer than just a few days for some learners to feel comfortable riding a big bike in test situations. Ask for an assessment at your local training school.

Restricted or A1 Licence

The restricted licence route requires riders to take their test on a bike between 120cc 125cc, after which the holder may ride a machine up to 25kW (33.3bhp) for the first two years. Once the probation period is up, the candidate can ride any size bike they wish.

We'd recommend anyone that feels more at ease on a small bike to take advantage of the 33bhp rule, as it means you won't need to master a big bike before taking your test and you can always try for Direct Access at a later date. Either way, you'll have a full power licence after two years. Many riders think 33bhp machines are boring, but for many a small capacity bike can still provide a lot of fun. What's more, you can still ride a big bike (even a ZZR1400!) as long as it's restricted to 33bhp. So you get all the feel of the bike - the same handling, braking and a modest amount of acceleration - but without the mighty top end poke some big bikes whack out. Worth thinking about.

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Posted: 30/08/2007 at 16:21


MaverickK
i had to go the restricted route. i had my bike for a week without the restrictors, i tryed not to ride it too much jst incase bt you all know how it is. when the restrictors went in i was realy gutted at the power loss etc, but it was definatly the best route because i have had a couple of "near misses" even restricted!

Posted: 30/08/2007 at 19:23


Deejie
Bike choice...

Went to a trader to look at the range of bikes on offer - it was suggested that I should step up to 600cc+ to avoid getting "bored", since I passed on a 500. Personally, would love the insurance prices of a 250 for a couple of years...

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Posted: 31/08/2007 at 09:52


kyot
when the article says
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We'd recommend anyone that feels more at ease on a small bike to take advantage of the 33bhp rule

who's "we"?

Posted: 31/08/2007 at 09:57


cbr6neen
I went down the restricted route and passed my test 6 days after I had first sat on a bike.. I know it was the right route for me and for the last nine months have been the owner of a very beautiful (but heavy even though 5 11 with very long legs) restricted cbr600f.. So what, if I have to wait until November 2008, at least I'll have got the practice in and for appearances sake (as I do sadly care) it looks like I have an unrestricted bike...

Posted: 31/08/2007 at 19:32


The Spin Doctor
Whilst taking a test on a 125 is definitely not an option that should be ignored, it's easy to lose sight of the big advantage of doing your training on a DAS bike - typically something like a Kawasaki or Suzuki 500 twin. The DAS bike is much closer to what the average rider WILL move on to, whether in full power or 33hp restricted form.

The 500 is a full-size motorcycle with 'full-size' responses to the control.

Unlike a lightweight and physically small 125 like the CG125 Honda, both the 500s mentioned about weigh in at around 190kgs - that's very much the same as a typical 600cc machine. It's the same kind of height off the ground and has the same kind of wheelbase too. The motors are powerful enough to pull wheelies in the dry and wheelspin in the wet, and the brakes strong enough to pull stoppies when there's enough grip or lock the front when there isn't.

The upshot of this is the 500 needs the right techniques to ride it well enough to pass the test, particularly when it comes to the U turn, where the rider will need good throttle and brake use, good balance and good slow steering technique.

By contrast, most people over about 5'6" can simply 'muscle' a CG125 around, and it can be ridden without particularly good machine control; clutch and throttle control in a junction is a classic example. I often find that riders with 125 experience tend to let the clutch out as soon as the bike is rolling, and then try to control their speed entirely on the throttle. Whilst they can get away with that on a bike with only 11 or 12hp at the backwheel, that's not going to work on a 50hp 500, let alone a 100hp 600 supersport; if the bigger bike doesn't stall at walking pace, it'll run wide out of tight turns as the rider tries to twist the throttle too early.

Likewise, the short wheelbase means U turns on a 125 are relatively easy. The longer wheelbase 500s require better slow control with a good balance of clutch/throttle and rear brake use, and counterweighting as a technique also helps enormously. Put a 125 rider on a bigger bike and they'll struggle to make tight turns because they haven't needed to learn these skills.

The 125 route is the only way if you are under 21. It may be the cheapest route too if you are over 21. You may only ever want to ride a small capacity bike. But the danger is that if you learn on a 125 because "the DAS bike is too big", how are you going to cope with a bike that size when you pass your test?

Posted: 02/09/2007 at 15:10


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If you can legally take das I cannot see how anyone would go restricted route.

The main reason people give is cost. Most training is charged by the day, and the actual test is the same price as restricted. If there is any cost difference it will be minimal.

As spin says you also won't get the experience of a big bike. Even if you don't want to ride a big bike after passing being able to ride one will stand you in good stead as far as skills go.

People who go 33bhp because they think they are safer are ignorant of the world. A restricted bike may be harder to handle as it is not running as it was designed for. The throttle goes 2 ways and I bet I could sit on a ZZR1400 / Hayabusa and go far slower than you on a restricted bike. You also don't have to go out and by the latest and greatest just because you can. You do however have more options available on the bikes you can get, these can be as sensible or un sensible as you like.

Posted: 04/09/2007 at 18:56


habbie
I went down the 33 bhp rout as well, only because at the time I was a student and the cost of direct access was prohibitive, the 2 years "probation" passes quickly and I am now riding a bigger bike.

Posted: 09/09/2007 at 11:31


ceas2k
When I passed my car test back when the universe was young and pushrod engined, drum barked cars ruled the earth - I had no choice but to run around in an underpowered car (a Mini, but it could easily have been an Escort etc.) It taught me a lot about being quick by anticipating and keeping up corner speed.

When I passed my bike test earlier this year,I decided to try the same thing - I got a Moto Guzzi Breva 750 - spookily it has about the same power as my first Mini (48 bhp). The first week was a riot of explosive acceleration and un-prepared corner entry, and I got full throttle maybe once. 4000 miles later (stuff the weather I want to ride my bike) the throttle is pinned everywhere, the chicken strips are down to 10mm, and I beginning to pick better lines, ride more smoothly etc. etc.

So while I wouldn't go for 33bhp I'm glad I went the low power route - now where's that supercharger catalogue?

Posted: 10/09/2007 at 10:48


gasman78
I went down the 33bhp route and would recommend it. I started on a 50cc for a year (at the age of 33), then a 125cc for 2 years on CBT. Did test on a 125 and bought a restricted Bonnie which I rode for 2 years. Enjoyed all of them massively. Learnt to ride progressively and have had the pleasure of the 'deferred gratification' of waiting for a powerful bike (monster). I think it should be virtually mandatory. Car drivers have a similar thing in that they cant get insurance for powerful cars when they start out. Bikers get insured on the basis that they generally only kill themselves on powerful bikes.
As for the old chestnut about bigger bikes being automatically safer, i say 'learn statistics'. The devil is in the detail. ANY bike ridden badly is dangerous, a fast one doubly so. Attitudes and training, thats what counts.


Posted: 01/07/2008 at 17:52


mick_600

I was 40 when I went the DA route, rode a 125 for a couple of months before my weeks DA course. My first bike having passed was an RD350 with 60bhp but quickly found the limits of the bike (not speed limits I hasten to add) when I was offered an early CBR600 jelly mould model with 83bhp. This was superb and everything the RD wasn't, solid, stable on the road, easy to ride around town and what felt like awesomely fast when I wanted it to be by letting it loose over 6000 rpm.

I would always recommend going direct access if you can and an old 600 when you've passed. It isn't too fast, will cost buttons and easily and cheaply replaced or fixed when you forget to put the sidestand down or drop it in one of the previously mentioned U turns. Obviously though, these old bikes will run out soon as the demand for BHP increases but older CBR's, FZR's. ZZR,s will still be easy to control by keeping the revs down until you feel brave enough.

I found the 350 a waste of time and much more dangerous for a newbie than the CBR which I sold for much more than I paid for it a year or so later for a newer more powerful 600.


Posted: 01/07/2008 at 18:54


Imissyou

I cant imagine how much better it would be than the 1991 technology thats in my ZXR400 race bikes.......... would probably be two seconds a lap quicker straight out of the crate before the fettling started.

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Posted: 22/09/2008 at 08:53

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