VW polo 1.9TDI oil change (sorry car question)

Hello

Sorry for the car question

I've just bought my first diesel, an 06 polo 1.9TDI. Never having owned a diesel before, if I do an engine oil/filter change myself, is there any difference compared to changing the oil/filter on a petrol engine? I do all the oil changes on my bikes and various other cars, but never worked on a diesel engine and know next to nothing about them, just want to make sure its the same procedure ie warm engine up, dump oil/filter, fill new filter with new oil, fill up engine oil, have cup of tea, check level, done.

I'm going to go to VW for the filter and oil, I believe diesel engine oil is different to oil for petrol cars?

Cheers :burnout:

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It's as simple as you say. Just make sure you have some decent gloves on as oil from diesels is usually filthier than petrol engines.

Although I never bothered filling the filter with oil - mainly because on my Pugs, the filter fits at such an angle that it would run out before the filter was on tight anyway! I just lube the sealing ring with fresh oil and have never had a problem. Just remember not to rev the engine on start-up.

Use whatever recommended spec oil VW tell you, just make sure it is for diesels (IIRC, there's a lot more detergent in it). I wouldn't bother with manufacturers own-brand stuff, though, as they charge the earth. Try your local motor factors for oil and filter.

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Dingbat wrote

It's as simple as you say. Just make sure you have some decent gloves on as oil from diesels is usually filthier than petrol engines.

Although I never bothered filling the filter with oil - mainly because on my Pugs, the filter fits at such an angle that it would run out before the filter was on tight anyway! I just lube the sealing ring with fresh oil and have never had a problem. Just remember not to rev the engine on start-up.

Use whatever recommended spec oil VW tell you, just make sure it is for diesels (IIRC, there's a lot more detergent in it). I wouldn't bother with manufacturers own-brand stuff, though, as they charge the earth. Try your local motor factors for oil and filter.

Cheers matey

Thats good news, I was half expecting diesel engines to be some complicated world of oil burning technology

I'll have to try and find out the correct viscosity of the oil, and wether is semi or fully synthetic (does this apply to diesel oils?) and get it from somewhere else if VW oil will be top dollar like you say. The only reason I've stuck with OE oil filters in the past is that I was under the impression some of them have a non-return valve in them, which stops all the oil running back down away from the head, camshafts etc when you turn off the engine. I was informed that some of the cheaper pattern part filters dont have this, so when you fire up the engine the top end is momentarily "dry" leading to excessive engine wear. If this is not the case, Im open to be re-educated

Cheers

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Worth checking your manual, or whatever, but with my Pugs, I always used 10/40 semi-synth specced for diesels.

And it might be an idea to get the price for oil and filter from your local Skoda/Seat dealers as well as the VW dealer, in case there is a 'premium' for using the VW dealership.

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Terror Scrotum wrote

I'll have to try and find out the correct viscosity of the oil, and wether is semi or fully synthetic (does this apply to diesel oils?) and get it from somewhere else if VW oil will be top dollar like you say.

It certainly does apply to diesel oils. '06 1.9 TDI you say? That means that it's a PD engine. You need to use oil to VAG spec 505.01 if the car's on the standard 10K mile service interval, or to 506.01 if it's on the variable "long life" service interval. Don't be tempted to use anything other than the correct spec oil. The "Pumpe Deuse" injector pumps on the PD engines are driven off a separate lobe on the camshaft. They inject diesel at 2050 bar, that's 29,730 psi and place a huge loading on the nose of the cam lobe. The correct VAG spec oil is formulated to maintain an adequate film strength under those conditions.

This is the layman's version.....

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=15877&v=f

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Schtum wrote

It certainly does apply to diesel oils. '06 1.9 TDI you say? That means that it's a PD engine. You need to use oil to VAG spec 505.01 if the car's on the standard 10K mile service interval, or to 506.01 if it's on the variable "long life" service interval. Don't be tempted to use anything other than the correct spec oil. The "Pumpe Deuse" injector pumps on the PD engines are driven off a separate lobe on the camshaft. They inject diesel at 2050 bar, that's 29,730 psi and place a huge loading on the nose of the cam lobe. The correct VAG spec oil is formulated to maintain an adequate film strength under those conditions.

This is the layman's version.....

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=15877&v=f

Thanks for that, most appreciated.

This is the thing, its been on a "variable long life service" schedule from brand new, but at 1 year old and 12K (I've just taken ownership at this stage), it still doesn't need/hasn't had a service. According to VW, the cars computer will alert the owner when it does, upto 2 years and 20k from new. I don't want to leave the same oil in there for that long, I can't see how it will do the car any good. My plan was to change the oil/filter myself now, and then in a years time get it done by VW as the maximum 2 years will be up. If, as they are implying, the car "checks" the oil condition, it will see brand new oil and not indicate it needs servicing, so it will go the full 2 years before being done, if that makes sense? It will save me money as VW will only have to service it every 2 years, and I'll have piece of mind by changing the oil more often.

The salesman aslo seemed to suggest that the oil was the same wether you opt for "long life servicing" or annual servicing. He said if you do long journeys, lots of motorway miles etc they set the cars service indicator for long life (upto 2 years, 20K). If you're planning on doing short, frequent journeys, high engine loads (trailering etc) then they set it for 1 year/10K). When the car goes back to VW for servicing they then reset the service indicator again, to which one you choose depending on your driving style.

Perhaps I was missinformed, as you've now quoted two differnet spec oils, rather than the generic 1 which I was led to believe existed.

Thanks again, if you have any other info on this engine it would be most appreciated

Cheers :burnout:

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Terror Scrotum wrote

The salesman aslo seemed to suggest that the oil was the same wether you opt for "long life servicing" or annual servicing.

That sounds like a car salesman for you... He's wrong, btw...

Other stuff.....try this....

www.fabia-vrs.com/downloads/files/injection.pdf

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One of the main things that the computer looks at to determine when it needs servicing is how many times the engine has been started in a given time period.

i have a VW tdi polo too, but i have no clue how i find out what oil filter to get. is it listed in the owners manual or do i have to go back to VW to get one?

my dad *cringe* used to do all my servicing for me, but he has moved to china so no help there.

Cheers for all the help/info.

The oil was actually cheaper from VW than in Halfrauds, but still a whopping £54 for 5 litres of "long life" oil . What makes it difficult is that most oil containers are 4 litres, but the engine needs 4.5. Interestingly, the same oil is used by VW in both petrol AND diesel engines. The actual job was easy, the oil filter looks like a motorbike air filter and drops into a screw top housing near the top of the engine, never seen that before.

Thanks again :burnout:

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if you know whether it's PD oil or other diesel oil, you can get decent oil of either type from a motor factors (not halfrauds), and it will possibly be cheaper than a VW dealer.

Also.... since Seat and Skoda use the same engines.... you can get effectively genuine VW diesel oil at Seat or Skoda prices as an alternative :-)

Hi ....I drove my 1.9 TDI polo sportline empty because I forgot my wallet at home ...and it started jerking , even after filling the tank the problem persisted

I there anyone that could assist me in removing the air or dirt from the pump /filter ....

I'm a bit clueless when it comes to diesel motors

the polo tdi 1.9 should take 5w30 507.00spec i use castrol edge fully synthetic and it take 4.5 liters from empty if your doing a full oil and filter change


g-boy, as far as i am aware the engine is self bleeding so i'd say go get it looked at as something may have been damaged or blocked by running your tank dry you may have pulled dirt through from the tank, but i would suggest you do a fuel filter change first and see how you get on

hi

i drive a 1.9 tdi just want to know what does it mean their where the miliage normaly is comes a spanner and says oil and flashes!

does it mean i need to service the oil or what

please help!!!!!!!

Fuck me! This has turned into a bloody diseasel car forum!

porra wrote (see)

hi

i drive a 1.9 tdi just want to know what does it mean their where the miliage normaly is comes a spanner and says oil and flashes!

does it mean i need to service the oil or what

please help!!!!!!!

Yes - it's a fairly broad hint that it needs a service. What did you think it meant? Have you RTFM?

ever tried the oil heating services bmw?

VW specs on oil for 1.9 TDI is 5-40 and they recommend and sell Castrol full synthetic

i own a polo 1.9 deisal & yesterday i had the temperature gauge rise by 5 degrees.i pulled over upped the bonnet &noticed the fan wasnt working.a stuck thermostst or an airlock any suggestions 

 

Well that all depends on what you were doing at the time, and how much "5 degrees" is on your gauge.

I wouldn't expect the fan to cut in just because it's run a little hotter. I wouldn't expect the fan to cut in until you'd been sitting in traffic for about 5 minutes - the fact that you "pulled over" suggests you were actually moving? In which case the fan probably wouldn't be running anyway.

Could be a stuck thermostat, or an airlock, or - depending on mileage & previous abuse, could be the water pump impellor vanes corroding away.

First test I'd do is see how much variation in temperature there is between the top & bottom of the radiator. If it's all really toasty hot then you've got good water flow. If it's cold at the bottom then you've got bad water flow. In which case yeah - sticky thermostat, clogged system etc etc.

BUT, it might be nothing. How often do you sit & watch the temperature gauge? Has it been gradually getting hotter over time? Was this just a one-off event? Where does the gauge normally sit (as a % of total travel) and how much closer to the red was it?

With so little to go on I'd say you're reading too much into it, but you know your car, in which case you need to tell us more...

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