Locks. Whose the Daddy!

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11/12/2002 at 09:27
My disk lock is gradually rusting up inside, and I've only had it 8 years! This morning I thought that old chestnut of gluing your locks had come to play and bike thieves were waiting to pounce on me tractor. But WD40 saved the day and freed up the lock.
I have another disk lock for work, but thought this may be the time to get a huge muvva of a padlock for my ground anchor set up at home.
I aint up to spec on security stuff. So, padlocks, whose the Daddy?


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11/12/2002 at 09:50
Favour seems to fall on proper keys now rather than the round key type - something "Sold Secure" should be good - quick scan of the Hein Gericke catalogue threw these up -

Oxford Enigma - this is a big disc lock that can be used as a padlock - sold secure Gold and thatcham approved - £49.99

they also have a Boss disc lock ("U" type ) again Sold secure
£34.99

They do a device called Defiance - Fcuk off big ground anchor with crossbar and Enigma lock for £149.99

ABUS Granit disclock / padlock ( 11mm steel shackle which could not be broken open in tests ) £52.95

Maximum security ABUS Granit 12mm 1.1M hex chain and Granit plus padlock - £103.95

WWW.hein-gericke.com 0800 165 165 for a catalogue

Search for Zanx thread on making a ground anchor out of a concrete block as well.

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11/12/2002 at 10:00
3spoke wrote

Favour seems to fall on proper keys now rather than the round key type - something "Sold Secure" should be good - quick scan of the Hein Gericke catalogue threw these up -

Oxford Enigma - this is a big disc lock that can be used as a padlock - sold secure Gold and thatcham approved - £49.99

they also have a Boss disc lock ("U" type ) again Sold secure
£34.99

They do a device called Defiance - Fcuk off big ground anchor with crossbar and Enigma lock for £149.99

ABUS Granit disclock / padlock ( 11mm steel shackle which could not be broken open in tests ) £52.95

Maximum security ABUS Granit 12mm 1.1M hex chain and Granit plus padlock - £103.95

WWW.hein-gericke.com 0800 165 165 for a catalogue

Search for Zanx thread on making a ground anchor out of a concrete block as well.


Thanks. I like the sound of Thatchem rated. Not too keen on Sold secure as a rating. Saw them on "Two Wheels" or "Top gear" or one of those programs. Looked really un scientific they way they had at the locks. Couple of blokes with heavy hammers disc grinders etc. I would think the first "attack" of the day was applied with more force then the last one of the day, if you see what I mean. There again, if a product did survive any of those attacks, its gotta be worth something. Damn. Just negated my own argument!


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11/12/2002 at 11:48
As far as chains go I think the Oxford Monster is a good 'un. The links are very thick and don't allow much room for bolt croppers. Padlock wise, basically what Spokey Dokey said, the mini D Locks that are used as disc locks SEEM to be pretty good. At the end of the day, buy the best you can afford and CHAIN IT TO THE FLOOR WITH MORE THAN ONE DEVICE! If you can't go banging holes in the floor then get some 3 inch reinforcing rod from YZF426 that's bent into a U shape and sink it into a bucket of concrete, the bigger the better. That'll give you something to chain the front wheel to that'll make it REALLY hard to drag around. The rear should be chained to the anchor. IMHO the best security device is razor wire....no no, it's a bike cover.

Remember, there was a story in the papers this week of a couple who were being robbed by 3 blokes in their own home and were held hostage. One of the hostages managed to get to a phone and dialled 999. It took the police an hour to turn up. Don't rely on the fuzz to come and catch the nasty bad thief man if you catch him. Lock it, lock it well, buy an Uzi
11/12/2002 at 20:14
I guess bike theft is a worldwide epidemic, we use the kryptonite barbed wire cable with the kryptonite small u lock. does anyone know anything about whether these are any good? one good thing about living on a small island is there is a good recovery rate of stolen bikes as there is nowhere to hide them once they hit the road. the bikes get beaten until they fall then they usually run and leave the bike where it fell. i lost a kx500 once and it was a two week hassle finding it and it was painted black with all the plastics gone and seat cover removed. the thief was a tiny little rasta who had to lower the rear spring so far there was no load at all and he had to carry a passenger so he could get a push start as he was too puny to kick it, ha ha, he bit off a lot more than he could chew so recovery was not too hard. but now if you are leaving a bike lurking lock it to the teeth with everything you can afford, make the bastards work so hard its making them curse!! horse thieves used to get hung not so long ago so bike thieves should be shot in the groin with a fish gun!! I now keep my girls in a 20 ft container locked to the floor so they got to be really dedicated!!:smoke:

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11/12/2002 at 20:43
Baje, that Kryptonite Barbed Wire cable. THROW IT AWAY! They are so Kraptonite that it's beyond words. I lost a scooter coz of one of these things. What's the point of a dirty great thick cable when the ends are set in lead which can be cut with bolt croppers. They really are poo, you need a good ground anchor and a top notch D Lock with conventional key. The cable thing will deter only the most feeble of bike thieving plebs.
11/12/2002 at 21:00
i've got a padlock made by Ingersol , top quality stuff , a mate gave it to me when he changed premises so is totally thief resistant and more than likely insurance safe come to think about it i think they make safes as well, i saw one in a locksmiths a few years ago and i think it was about £80, expensive but worth it i think,
13/12/2002 at 00:43
Wow Zanks you have me wondering now?? the cable I have is approx 1 inch thick with a real hard end piece which incorporates into a krypto u lock. Is this the same setup you had of did you have the small 1/2 inch cable with fitted end which uses an ordinary flat key?? The big cable is too big to carry around so I use a disc lock for parking but lock the bike to the outside of the container when it sleeps home. There is no lead involved in the new cable only a hard metal head which i tried to cut with a hacksaw and could only scrape off the anodized finish. Anyone out there know how cable verses chain goes?? will ask a question

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