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AdamA

28/10/2007 at 13:30

orangevest wrote

I edited an earlier post can you read it, Its the one WELL SAID

Sure....

orangevest wrote

can I ask you if advertising is not allowed without payment, when someone puts on here say "Donnington 12/11 with No Limits" How do you know they don`t work for that company and are advertising free.

We don't with 100% certainty.
All we can do is keep an eye on who is posting what.
We know a lot of the regular posters, so if it's one of them we know they don't work for a TDO.
If it is a newbie we keep an eye on them and if they seem to mostly/only post about trackdays from a certain TDO then its blatantly obvious and they will have their posts removed.
Others may be less obvious and slip through the net, but I doubt many do.

Lets face it tho, a TDO isn't gonna lure many punters by posting an anonymous "Anyone gonna be at Donnington 12/11 with No Limits?" type posts. The idea is you go with your mates and kick their arses isn't it?

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28/10/2007 at 13:40

Abel wrote

Sure....

We don't with 100% certainty.
All we can do is keep an eye on who is posting what.
We know a lot of the regular posters, so if it's one of them we know they don't work for a TDO.
If it is a newbie we keep an eye on them and if they seem to mostly/only post about trackdays from a certain TDO then its blatantly obvious and they will have their posts removed.
Others may be less obvious and slip through the net, but I doubt many do.

Lets face it tho, a TDO isn't gonna lure many punters by posting an anonymous "Anyone gonna be at Donnington 12/11 with No Limits?" type posts. The idea is you go with your mates and kick their arses isn't it?

Kick your mates arses would that not be racing on a track day, It seemed to me that Fe got a real slating on here [some of it deserved] but NL got loads of praise and it turns out that at least one of the people slating Fe instructs for NL, could be coincidence

AdamA

28/10/2007 at 13:43

orangevest wrote

Kick your mates arses would that not be racing on a track day

Its called humour.

Ask a friend to explain.

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It seemed to me that Fe got a real slating on here [some of it deserved] but NL got loads of praise and it turns out that at least one of the people slating Fe instructs for NL, could be coincidence

Could be.

28/10/2007 at 14:20

[QUOTE=Abel;5215074]Its called humour.

Ask a friend to explain.

Oh your a silly I haven`t got any friends

John..

28/10/2007 at 14:20

I'm a bit biased towards No Limits, that bird comes looking for you and gives you sweets.

She's getting a bit wise to me now, as I always head her off further up for a second helping.

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John..

28/10/2007 at 14:23

Actually I know an Instructor from Focused, first name same as mine, and he rides a yellow R6, a snot Green ZX 10, If you see him, tell him I said hello.

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28/10/2007 at 14:37

hungry wrote

Very well said mate. and if they dont duff you up there probly on the keyboard saying your a twat. The male egos a funny thing.

Got bored with DIY then, Can`t be too much needs doing in a caravan, Taffman seems to be a bit of a legal eagle, wonder what the indemnity that we sign at the start of the year is worth if someone has us off while we are wearing an orange vest

28/10/2007 at 14:51

hungry wrote

You try polishing all that chrome. IVE just done two tubes of autosol(sorry if thats advertising, didnt mean it,) Tommys gone a bit quiet, where is he then.

Tommy is in traing, [potty that is]. I actually think we are not intellectual enough for these lot, I`m just a thick bricklayer with 2 limited companies 3 houses a villa in spain and a load of dosh in the bank, I have to instruct though cos I get free track days

AdamA

28/10/2007 at 15:02

If you are negligent, you are negligent. Indemnity forms mean very little.

28/10/2007 at 15:30

Abel wrote

If you are negligent, you are negligent. Indemnity forms mean very little.

Why have them then, If 1 punter has another 1 off then that can`t be negligence by the tdo

-chunk-

28/10/2007 at 15:35

[QUOTE=Taffman;5214985]Hi Chunk, hows it hanging????????

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.....very good taff, alittle to the left but otherwise good. Excuse my ignorance but I need a reminder as to who you are?

Chunk sport racing #83

AdamA

28/10/2007 at 15:36

orangevest wrote

Why have them then

So people don't try and sue you when you aren't negligent.
i.e. someone went too fast and ran out of track that is their fault, not the TDOs.

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If 1 punter has another 1 off then that can`t be negligence by the tdo

It can if the reason they punted them off is proven to be something that was not pointed out to them at the briefing and should have been like what a coloured flag is for etc.

Couch Commando

28/10/2007 at 16:23

I've asked chunks and yorick for advice before and I have to say intheir expert field of pie eating they are indeed experts

I have enough bikes thanks

-chunk-

28/10/2007 at 16:47

couch you bitch!! still at least i know lucy love me.:burp:

Chunk sport racing #83

28/10/2007 at 16:49

Abel wrote

So people don't try and sue you when you aren't negligent.
i.e. someone went too fast and ran out of track that is their fault, not the TDOs.

It can if the reason they punted them off is proven to be something that was not pointed out to them at the briefing and should have been like what a coloured flag is for etc.

But according to most people on here the briefings are too long and only really needed for novices and they are basically just used as a tool to selltyres and pics, wonder if these are the same people I have to tell to shut up when the briefing is on and to get away from the door so they can hear

AdamA

28/10/2007 at 16:54

orangevest wrote

But according to most people on here the briefings are too long and only really needed for novices and they are basically just used as a tool to selltyres and pics, wonder if these are the same people I have to tell to shut up when the briefing is on and to get away from the door so they can hear

Of course they are.

That has no bearing or indeed relevance to my answer tho, so other than to have another bitch about trackday users it was a tad extraneous.

28/10/2007 at 17:05

Abel wrote

Of course they are.

That has no bearing or indeed relevance to my answer tho, so other than to have another bitch about trackday users it was a tad extraneous.

It has a massive bearing. Tdo`s are constantly being sued, Phil from tracktime told me it was his reason for packing up and I was told it was why spead freaks packed up. It was not another dig at track day users it was to make the point that briefings are a legal requirement although I do think they could be simplified

AdamA

28/10/2007 at 17:13

orangevest wrote

It has a massive bearing.

No, it has NO bearing on what I said. I was discussing the relevance of disclaimers.

Nothing to do with the briefings except that they need to contain certain subject matters to stop the TDO being negligent in their organisation of the day.
Whether people like or dislike the briefings had no bearing on whether the disclaimer can stop the TDO getting sued.

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Tdo`s are constantly being sued, Phil from tracktime told me it was his reason for packing up and I was told it was why spead freaks packed up.

No shit.

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It was not another dig at track day users it was to make the point that briefings are a legal requirement although I do think they could be simplified

A point which you comprehensively failed to make until now. Try saying what you actually think rather than just blurting out shit slagging off the trackdayers.

FWIW I agree, some people have a shit attitude towards attending/listening to the briefings. Bitching about it isn't gonna change anything tho.

28/10/2007 at 17:30

Abel wrote

No, it has NO bearing on what I said. I was discussing the relevance of disclaimers.

Nothing to do with the briefings except that they need to contain certain subject matters to stop the TDO being negligent in their organisation of the day.
Whether people like or dislike the briefings had no bearing on whether the disclaimer can stop the TDO getting sued.

No shit.

A point which you comprehensively failed to make until now. Try saying what you actually think rather than just blurting out shit slagging off the trackdayers.

FWIW I agree, some people have a shit attitude towards attending/listening to the briefings. Bitching about it isn't gonna change anything tho.

Ok well you like to throw the odd insult about, If you had read the earlier thread there were a few on here bitching about instructors, I`m not slagging off trackdayers just the few on here that have a problem with me cos I wear an orange vest, Ive made a lot of friends over the years as an instructor and a track day fanatic, Oh and one more thing I actually asked Taffman about the legality of indemnity forms but i suppose this being a forum I should have sent him a pm, the reason i asked was cos we sign the same form and several instructors have gone down this year and no one has rushed up to pay them compensation. I dare say I`ve just blurted out a load more shit that you`ll disagree with. The thing is with a discussion is that quite often one subject leads on to another, If you think I`m wandering away and you`ve already answered my original question THEN DON`T FUCKING ANSWER

AdamA

28/10/2007 at 17:37

orangevest wrote

Ok well you like to throw the odd insult about, If you had read the earlier thread there were a few on here bitching about instructors, I`m not slagging off trackdayers just the few on here that have a problem with me cos I wear an orange vest

Read your posts fella. There is no distinction.
"according to most people on here"
You are doing the exact same you accuse them of, tarring all with the same brush.
What is good for the goose.....