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03/01/2009 at 17:34
how much money would you take on a lets say 7 day trip to france and back?
03/01/2009 at 17:36
I'd take my credit card and see what happens

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04/01/2009 at 18:18
I would budget 100€ a day all in. You should come back with change.

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05/01/2009 at 16:45

All depends on where you want to stay at night, and what your culinary tastes are like.

Oh and how far you are going too.

05/01/2009 at 17:06

You're right Brilec of course

My figures were based as follows:

35 € b&b

25 € 1 tank gas (approx 15 L)

10 € lunch

5 € breakfast

20 € dinner

5€ coffees etc


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05/01/2009 at 17:23

What part of France, if you're heading to the South you'll have to budget more for toll roads (if you use them).

It's always wise to have more than you need in case of emergencies, I got a puncture in Belgium last year and the only bike garage that I could find open at 5pm wouldn't take any kind of plastic, so 250 euros for a rear tyre was paid in cash..

05/01/2009 at 20:40

Being a tight Azz ... And looking at a 100 Euros a day ... Is still about £100 a day ... If you went for say 7 day and with the crossing charges as well you will be looking at a good side of a grand ... Going with some one and sharing will keep the cost's down ... If money is no problem then that's ok ... But I would be looking at way's that you can cut that down ...

John933

06/01/2009 at 11:13

John - I can't disagree - the first way to cut it down is to camp.

The second way to cut it down is to go to supermarkets to buy lunch.

You can shave off a couple of euros by buying a snickers for 1€ and a coffee for 1€,30.

A pack of sausages/tin of ravioli and a bottle of wine/few beers will set you back 10€ not 20€ etc etc

let's call that 55€ a day.


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06/01/2009 at 11:18

Jeez .... if I'm going touring I allow 100 a day just for the backup vehicle. With my fridge on the bike stocked up and the CD changer full - add an extra helmet and some waterproof kit and there's no room for luggage so I need a backup vehicle which also carries my hairdresser and valet, Never travel without them.

06/01/2009 at 12:21

For 7 days in France I would take about €300.  Petrol and accommodation I buy on the Credit card, so basically the only cash required is for food and drink, or anywhere where the credit card might not work.  If I run out of cash then I use a cashpoint to get more.  They are almost civilised in Europe now.

If I go to Paris on business I normally spend about €150 per day, and that's includes hotel food and beer.  But in a week I will use less than €100 cash, most of which is on taxis.



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Edited: 06/01/2009 at 12:21
06/01/2009 at 12:33
iBurty - I think Danny's after a budget - how much is your recommendation?

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06/01/2009 at 16:43

You'll need a small fortune, Danny, at the £ > € rate we now have - although it has improved in recent days.

CCs are widely accepted in France and will probably provide the "best" exchange rate for you.

Can't add to the valid comments by others above, although, have to agree, if you manage to through €100 a day, you'll be living/eating in some luxury.   Look out for "Routiers" (where the truckers park up) for your midday meal.


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Edited: 06/01/2009 at 16:44
06/01/2009 at 16:53
That's interesting - how would you budget - cos I think 100€ a day this time next year will be smack on - so what's the breakdown?

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06/01/2009 at 17:19

Don't budget, B@M, just go and enjoy.     If it were to be €100 a day, would not be able to afford to go.

Last time when riding in France (2007), was certainly not having to pay more than something like :

Tent place €10.00 a night - cheapest was €4.00/night - and it was good.

Main meal €15 a time - Routier.

On camp site breakfast and evng snack (bread stick, cheese, fruit, etc) from Supermarché, say €10.00 a day.

Coffees, beers, etc €10.00 a day.

Fuel about €25 a day when riding.

Averaged over a complete trip, it would probably work out less.  OK, one needs to have cards and an emergency pocket of cash, but if all goes well, don't think the above figures will be too far off the mark - unless prices in F have gone hay wire in the meantime.


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06/01/2009 at 17:32

For going camping 55-60€ is fine, we can agree on that if staying in hotels etc then it is 100€ easy.

The big mistake is to put it back into £ - especially at alomost 1:1 - then it seems ridiculous.


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06/01/2009 at 17:36
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iBurty - I think Danny's after a budget - how much is your recommendation?

Hehe.  I thought so too really.  But he should ask the question he want's answered.

The biggest chunk of the budget is likely to go on fuel and accommodation, unless camping. 

I think we need a bit more information really. Like:

What type of accommodation is planned?  Formule 1 hotels are available nationally from something like €35 per night.  Independent hotels can be had from 70 Euros ish.  Etap are available from €35 to €50 ish.  You can stay in a Suite Hotel for €98 per night and these have good facilities including microwaves in the room so you can make the most of cheap supermarket food.

What sort of mileage is planned?  Last time I was in Paris Fuel was pretty much the same cost as in the UK, but the Euro far stronger now so that makes petrol more expensive than the UK probably.

Food is the next expense:  You can eat out for €30 per day I reckon (all meals).  & buy stuff in the supermarket for lots less, but how you eat depends on what facilities you have available, which may on your choice of hotel.

In summary I reckon Bill's €100 per day staying in budget hotels is about right.



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Edited: 06/01/2009 at 17:42
06/01/2009 at 17:48

No, youre pretty much spot on - and I live as far away from Paris as you can get......

Here was my original 35 € b&b/25 € 1 tank gas (approx 15 L)/10 € lunch/5 € breakfast/20 € dinner/5€ coffees etc

55€ camping and using local cafes/supermarkets -

You have to bear in mind we pay 1,15€ for a simple baguette (wow! that's over £1!)

1,20€ for an espresso

For ball park figures these are good - that way if you need to buy a map it's OK.

it has to be said that in 2008 all the 8€ lunches went up to 10€+ so it is getting more expensive here (without taking into account the exchange rate - but my big change forecast for 2009 is spain - watch it get seriously expensive!


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06/01/2009 at 17:55
Bill@Mission wrote (see)

For going camping 55-60€ is fine, we can agree on that if staying in hotels etc then it is 100€ easy.

The big mistake is to put it back into £ - especially at alomost 1:1 - then it seems ridiculous.

You may also wish to be careful when changing money.  Some of the high street currency sources can be a bit expensive.  If you look at the following link you can see that they can vary by 10%.

http://www.comparetravelmoney.co.uk/index.asp?gclid=CKLPl-PA-pcCFcsa3godrFOJCQ

Personally I find my bank gives me better rates than say Thomas Cook 



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06/01/2009 at 18:29
this is great info people , im toying with the idea of going over once i pass my test, this year or next , maybe even just for the weekend back on the monday etc , just seeing how much it would be
06/01/2009 at 18:47

The thing Danny is to do it - just do it. If you have to - pack a tent and dehydrated meals. Live rough and just do it!


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