JT gets the same machinery as Colin and still cannot do the business, he is a great rider but unfortunately it looks as if MOTOGP is not going to be his bag (well worth a try though).
This has been the same for many others, so we will just have to wait for Bradley
Not sure about the GP this year, but off to Donington on Sunday.........
I was a massive fan of Edwards in WSB and the same for Toseland, but Edwards has just not made the grade despite having top machinery, and unfortunately it looks like Jt may be the same. Colin should have returned to WSB after 3 years and tried to regain the world title as his riding style & ability is clearly more suited to superbikes, JT should give it another year and then admit it's not for him if he has still failed to make decent progress on the championship. Get back to WSB and get another title if he can
Finally, someone who agrees with my opinion of Colon Asswad. A handful of podiums in ...what...7 seasons and 0 wins. Yeah he's a measuring stick by which all new GP riders should be measured.
Edwards has had some good results, but he is not a sunday man in moto gp, and visibly played 2nd fiddle to Rossi for the years he was in the same team, with edwards on your bike you will get some flashes of brilliance, some decent results and some weekends where he goes missing completely, but you wont get a big repair bill either
i am not saying that any one other than rossi, lorenzo, pedrosa, stoner or dovi should leave MOTO GP
that is just silly........................... so dont be silly harry
what i am saying is that to win you need to be on one of those bikes, if not you tell me which other bikes can win a Moto GP title then and i will listen
No harryt that's not what I'm suggesting at all but let's put your statement - that his results have been better than a number of other 'good' riders - into perspective. Let's look at the numbers pertaining to the current field; podiums only and assuming no more for this season- no race wins 'cos Edwards hasn't got any of those..
Rossi - 120 in 10 seasons (12 per)
Pedrosa - 30 in 4 (7.5 per)
Stoner - 30 in 4 (7.5 per)
Lorenzo - 11 in 2 (5.5 per)
Hayden - 25 in 7 (3.5 per)
Capirossi - 42 in ?? (who knows)
Gibernau - 30 in 11 (2.7 per)
Melandri - 20 in 7 (2.8 per)
Vermeulen - 7 in 5 (1.4 per)
Edwards 10 in 7 (1.4 per)
Elias - 5 in 5 (1 per)
Dovizioso - 1 in 2 (0.5 per)
dePuniet - 1 in 4 (.25 per)
deAngelis - 0
Toseland - 0
Kallio - 0
Canepa - 0
Takahashi - 0
Talmacsi - 0
Now I freely admit that this isn't the most scientific way of determining a rider's capabilities or potential - not by a long shot but look at who is actually below Edwards on a per season podium average - guys who have been there for less time than him, guys who are brand new or guys who have NEVER had a full factory ride. That's all I'm saying - he's had the rides, he's had the time; so saddle up and f**k off Tex, go back to WSBK where you should have been 3 years ago.
Simoncelli may well have a full factory bike next year.
It won't be in the Repsol team though.
Edwards should thank his lucky stars he still has a decent ride in motoGP. I like the bloke, but he's talked the talk more than he's walked the walk.
Edwards almost won one but fell off on the last lap
Sexy - close only counts with hand grenades
agree with a lot of what you say though,edwards has turned into a rite gobshite who talks the talk,especially pre-season.
He's an underperforming, wannabe who should have never have stayed more than 3 years in GP. He isn't competitive, he isn't consistent, he isn't even close....WHY do teams still give him rides??
And even though the stats make me look like an anorak I've got to say that MotoGP provided all the numbers and my drunken pigheadedness and F- A else to do except look up stats did the rest.
Shameful and pathetic I know
But at least I'm not Colon Asswad...
THIS is the race where I'll be on the podium .... oooooops maybe not ..... repeat for 7 years ..... my front end isn't great..... I see no reason why we can't be on the podium (except for I'm shite) .... thank you and good night - hello AMA
I don't think he'd even be competitive in WSBK any more but I've got to admit - he milked the GP gravy train for all it was worth - did anyone really believe that he would win the GP crown after he left WSBK???
He was washed up 5 years ago ...
Does 'riding consistently' mean the same as 'not got the bottle to push'?
Not sure how we can be slating Edwards so much. He's currently joint 6th in the series, 2 points behind Dovizioso, ahead of all these riders:
Randy de Puniet
Alex de Angelis
I think Colin's place in MotoGP is deserved, he's about the only WSB rider to have successfully made the switch. He's got to be credited for getting the Tech3 as competitive as it is. That said, I'd love to se edwards, Toseland, Hayden and Vermeulen back in WSB. There's some eager talent in 250s that no doubt want to jump up into the top class before the 250s are abandoned.
I THINK THERE IS SOME UNJUSTIFIED CRITICS IN THIS THREAD TO GET IN THE GP PADDOCK EVEN TO RUN ROUND AT THE BACK YOU NEED TO BE A SPECIAL RIDER
AS FOR JT LIKE HIM OR HATE HIM IT HAS BEEN A STEP TO FAR
AS FOR BEN HE IS A SPECIAL TALENT AND I HAVE BEEN A FAN OF THE BEN AND MATT SHOWDOWN FOR YEARS
I WOULD RATHER HE STAYED IN WSB AND DOMINATE DUCATI, THE 800 BREED OF GPS SUIT 250 RIDERS AND BEN IS NOT THE SMALLEST OF GUYS BY HIS OWN ADMISSION
TO GO TO GP WOULD BE A BIG GAMBLE
Bluey Zarsoff wrote (see)
Shouldn't this forum be called Spies replaces Toseland ?
Not really, if you look at the title the story is about WSB not Motogp. In WSB Toseland is replacing Spies. HTH.
I did think of something really cool to write here........but then I forgot what it was.
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