Super Pooper Whos going to ride this crap ? where are the air bags ? can I plug my cell phone and I pod in someplace ?
Just take the Damn Car ! and leave my motorcycle alone
Mr.D wrote (see)
Not a particularly attractive beast is it? But it may give Yamaha a share of the market they are losing to Honda by not having a DN-01 type on sale.
I see it as the 'next' TMAX too.
Not sure from that image that it is a 'drawing' either - looks like a 'real' bike photo shopped as an outline....
Mr.D wrote (see)
The people that might buy that are not going to ever buy 'your' bike - nor (I suspect) will Yamaha desert your profitable market segment.
tHE dn-01, LOOKS CRAP! Weighs a ton, most of the power is lost in the transmission. Lets not confuse this with a motorbike. I admire Honda's technology but disapointed to see it going the (in my opinion) wrong, but then again. there might be a demand for these things, a mate of mine has one and I just can't see how he justified spending all that money on that while there are so many excelent bikes for half of the money!
Yamaha would have had a large capacity automatic scooter/bike on the pipeline regardsless of the DN-01, Keep in mind they were on of the first one in thecatogary with the T-Max.
One thing for sure the, Yamaha version will be better looking than the DN-01
Has to be said - if you're going to drag car users out of cars and onto 2 wheels there's a certain set of criteria you have to meet:
Cleanliness - people don't want to be bothered with the mechanics or getting dirty
Ease of use - people don't want to have to learn new skills
Comfort - people want to be warm, dry, and have access to tunes etc, just like in their car. They'll accept the requirement for the helmet (it's an obvious safety measure) but they'll ignore the requirement for leathers/textiles with armour.
As such - the DN-01 "could" be a successful marketing idea for Honda, because outright performance is NOT a major requirement - but ease of use is. NOtice that on the DN-01 you can't see ANYTHING other than bodywork - just like a car - all the workings are hidden away, out of sight, out of mind.
The one downfall of the DN-01, and most scooters (the other acceptable car alternative), imo is the weather - drivers don't like getting wet. If you could buy an enclosed version of the DN, MP3 etc etc for a reasonable amount I reckon they'd sell like hot cakes.
RiceBurner wrote (see)
Trouble is enclosures such as roofs and doors add their own problems to PTW's.
You'll need a heater. And a windscreen wiper. And a screen that doesn't scratch wen it's wiped. And accept limited visibility round the screen pillars. That all adds weight. High up. That makes the bike less maneuverable.
elbows in wrote (see)
Stealing market share from Honda? Why would Yamaha waste millions developing a bike, just to steal three of the six people that have bought a DN?
How to 'improve' the DN-01.
Add a Utopia seatback and some Givi luggage.
But still rather pricey.
FJSRiDER. wrote (see)
elbows in wrote (see)Stealing market share from Honda? Why would Yamaha waste millions developing a bike, just to steal three of the six people that have bought a DN? I think that just shows how little you actually know about the way the Japanese motorcycle industry operates and how blinkered your view is.
Yep, cheers for that.
As far as I can get Google to translate - this suggests that they sold 326 in Italy in June. This is far more than the numbers of 'other' automatic motorcycle - the Aprilia Mana - which doesn't even make the top 100 bikes sold!
(Although to put this in context the Italians bought 1,787 TMAX in the same month!)
why is everyone calling the dn-01 a scooter? its got a cruiser frame (probably similar to the shadow), a proven, motorcycle engine and a new gen' gearbox. its an auto cruiser!! i've bought one and coming off a triumph sprint, i can say the dino is fantastic. (no more sore wrists for this 49 year old). a few extra ponies would be welcome but i guess the tranny probably couldn't handle a bigger engines torque. nevertheless, all this crap i'm reading from sports bike riders amuses me 'cause you younger idiots most likely cant change your own oil let alone comment on what bike riding should be about. vive la difference.
WHO CARES WINS
hey, i just think to midified my Tiger revo into it. the front head change into this dn 01 front fairing
it's sure looks good
I think people will be ok with a lid and jacket if abandoniing the car - the jacket will keep them dry on the walk into the office too.
What is really needed is someway of storing lid and jacket and maybe overtrousers on the bike. Top boxes work, but people fill "boots" with junk and work stuff if commuting, so you need another option.
The biggest hurdle to bikes replacing cars though, IMO, is security. PArk a car and walk away. People don't want to be fiddling with dirty wet chains when they are already running a few moments late.
Be nice to people and remember that you are unique, just like everyone else.
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