Test centre trauma

I have never understood why a biker has to do a cbt, yet a sweatie teenager can just jump straight into a car.

I have always had an idea of buying a lump of land and putting a road setup on it. Put a roadside cafe and facilities there and charge instructors for using it...

I think there should be a minimum time that a learner must drive on a traing facility before they head onto the road.

Where I used to live, you couldn't move for learners doing 10 mph....and 42 pont turns..

The only downfall on my business venture is that they use the roads for free and it would take the goverment to force the change.....

Captain Scarlet wrote (see)

I have never understood why a biker has to do a cbt, yet a sweatie teenager can just jump straight into a car.

Because the CBT allows the biker to then venture out onto the roads unaccompanied, solely responsible for ALL his decision making. The sweaty teenager must be accompanied by a qualified driver until he passes his test

Seems like a simple enough concept to me. 

Car tests are also becoming harder  

Remember 16 year old can ride bikes on the roads but you have to be 17 before you get behind the wheel of a car.

A 16 year old biker can see a car better than a 17 year old driver can see a bike.

Bad habits start early.

I think that ALL car learners should spend 12 months on a bike

Day 1 rider/car driver first time on the open road:-

 C.B.T.= Instructor(certified) 'watch that car'

Car driver=Dad/brother/mate 'see the match last night?'

Need I say more?

Angel xxx wrote (see)

totally agree Kevin and i think older drivers should have their skills retested espesh the one that knocked me off and said sorry i didnt see you and then followed with well what do you expect mixing women with bikes when i whipped off my helmet to give him a gobfull!!!!!!!!!

ALL potential car drivers "SOULD"without exception have to spend a minimum "road/traffic awareness on a motorised two wheeled vehical"of 6 months.

Then there should be mandatory retests across the board for ALL road use'rs every 5-6yrs thereafter. If you fail at anytime then you have to go back to the start (donot-pass-go) and have to pay again for a minimum of 5 lessons and FULL test fees.

It may sound harsh and/or crazy but it will sortout the life take'rs and one-off fluke passers!

Even the CBT is not bullet proof. After 2 1/2 days training the steplad was still a danger to himself and others. Took another 3 days roadwork (lots of fags/coffee and loss of hair) to bring him up to a level I felt safe to let him out alone. He still dropped the bike 2nd time out on his own.

Then had a new driver pull out on him in Jan the plaster has just come off

Traffic awareness is not the same as hazzard awareness.

I agree with Lenskined retests but maybe after 10 years.

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It's not bikers who need more awareness, it the bloody car drivers.. It's hilariously ridiculous that the bike test is becoming harder so that we can avoid bad car drivers!!!!

Have you actually ever looked at crash statistics to see which types of crashes kill riders?One of the biggest is crashing on corners, and guess what?  The new test actually checks your cornering . . . And there's swerving too - which might be useful if a car does obstruct your path.

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