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Badboy
25/06/2001 at 13:00
Assuming most people agree that wearing a helmet is a good idea. Do you reckon we should force people to wear a decent jacket and strides.

I know it's hot but just been overtaken by a chap on a GSXR1000 in a T-Shirt.

Whaddya reckon
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whitebird
25/06/2001 at 13:03
Absolutely not.

I don't agree with helmet law, it should be personal choice.

I wear decent protective kit nearly every time I use my bike, but the last thing I want to see is more nanny state legislation.

As soon as I hear the words "It's for your own good" I instinctively cry "Bollocks!"
Nobby
25/06/2001 at 13:03
Why should the taxpayer pay for enforcing a law that is only going to protect the idiot who is breaking it.

If he wants to take the risk of serious injury then that is up to him.

The only reason to enforce safety gear would be to save the NHS the money on having to rebuild their skin.


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25/06/2001 at 13:05

I dont care what people wear If they go Tarmac surfing in tshirt and sandles thats there problem

Im sure the nice nurces are gentle when there removing debris from lacerated skin(if theres any skin left)

Although maybe they should be made to pay for there hopital treatment for being twats.....



ZZRIDER
25/06/2001 at 13:05
I don't think we should be forced to do anything cos we are forced to do far too much already but this time I feel that safety clothing may well follow the same route as the helmet law in the future.
Please yourself what you wear atm though I fear the worst for Mr GSXR

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Animal
25/06/2001 at 13:06
Wear what you like...

If you fall off, then it's your problem

(I'm adverse to pain, however, so wear full leathers all the time)
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WellOffRoad!
25/06/2001 at 13:07
You just been over taken !
never mind 'what he is wearing' I am more worried about you using your lap top on the move .
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Tank
25/06/2001 at 13:09
I recon they should get rid of the helmet law too. That way we can get rid of some of the dickheads who decide they don't need one!
silentmemory
25/06/2001 at 13:22
No need for more legislation. Not having good kit probably won't get you killed but the pain itself is a good teacher. I agree with the helmet law though as you may not be lucky enough to see the error of your ways if you crash without one.

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RBZ
25/06/2001 at 13:24
no they f*cking shouldn't!
Talk about double standards, on the one hand half of VD is whinging about laws prohibiting the use of stuff such as dark visors, small reg plates or race exhausts, on the other hand you are calling for laws to be introduced prohibiting wearing normal clothes whilst on a bike; and effectively making bikes even less accessible as they already are (people getting started on a £500 Superdream can hardly afford to insure the thing let alone get "full protective clothing").

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Badboy
25/06/2001 at 13:32
just wondered what others thought
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2mths
25/06/2001 at 13:41
I'm happy with things the way they are. I think we should keep the helmet law, purely because it's cheaper than getting rid of it.

I think it might be an idea though to make sure that the effects of falling off in inappropriate attire are made graphically clear when peeps take a CBT. A short 5-10 minute film showing what can happen if you don't should mean people have clear idea about what they are letting themselves in for.

I don't like the idea or riding without Helmet (full face), jacket and gloves. I do occasionally ride without boots and proper trousers and would like to have that choice.
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RiceBurner
25/06/2001 at 13:47
More legislation would be a Bad ThingTM .

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haydn
25/06/2001 at 13:48
No, definitely don't need MORE laws.

And as for paying extra for the NHS - bollox to that 'n all. Should everyone who exposes himself to greater risk pay more to the NHS? How's that gonna work - extra tax on chips cos the fat bastids with clogged up arteries will be using more services? If we must have an NHS (and that's a whole argument in itself!) then it has to be provided free at the point of delivery, for each according to his need, by each according to his ability, otherwise it's not an NHS, it's a risk-assessed private medical insurance.
Dumb Ape
25/06/2001 at 15:15

Isn't this really a question of Personal freedom and the role of the State.

and thats a big question ...

personally I think that the state is never to be trusted and personal freedom is being eroded at every level of society.

The problems with state regulation is that it criminalises people for not agreeing with the state/majority when the simple fact is that the mob is stupid !

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Sic^
25/06/2001 at 15:20
I think that what should be addressed with safety equipment, ie lids, jackets etc, is that we have to pay tax on them. Other forms of safety equipment are tax free, so why isn't protective biking equipment??

(I appologise if this issue has already be done to death)


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Sic^
25/06/2001 at 15:22
I also think I should look into my use of English....that was terrible..... Sorry


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CBRchick
25/06/2001 at 15:22
nah, I think most people will learn by there own mistakes if they slide down the road in shorts!!
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diy
25/06/2001 at 15:45
Safety clobber is a gradual thing. When you start as a learner, you don't even know if you're gonna pass, so why shell out 500 quid for leathers etc..

I got my gear gradually, like most, buying better kit all the time.

However, it would be nice is to see insurance companies offering discounts to people who choose to wear decent gear, thus reducing their burden on the state etc in the event of an off.

I would however, like to see some tightning of the PPE rules, as most bike clothing at the cheaper end of the range advertises PPE armour and then has a disclaimer in the label (not defined as personal protective equipment). Not much point in having PPE armour, if the seems are gonna fall apart.

However, the reality is that safety clothing apart from helmets offers minimal additional protection. It may if you're lucky reduce the amount of bones you brake, but it's unlikely to save your life. It wouldn't be practical to have armour thick enough to do the same job as a helmet.

The real issue is that safety clothing can stop minor injuries like road rash, bruising and fractures etc.

PS Now is a great time to buy all your winter gear
Dodgy Geezer
25/06/2001 at 17:30
....particularly haydn, RBZ & whitebird

The last thing we need in this country is more laws
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