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Pete Wadsworth
03/03/2008 at 15:28

I'm getting really tired of this... whenever figures go down it's the Government's doing, when they go up it's our fault.

More pedestrians get killed, it's drivers/riders fault, less get killed it's thanks to speed cameras.

The hypocrisy is beyond a joke.

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dooffle9
03/03/2008 at 15:44

The speed (death squares) humps are on the way.

On the A605 Thrapston to P'boro they have put signs up saying 23 casualties in 3 years. With Think Bike signs.

A483 Newtown to Llandridnod Wells +A44 to Aber 105 in 2006.

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Finglonga
03/03/2008 at 18:27

Wales has been full for the last few years of these signs(below) just to slow bikes down so when a real one crops up everyone ignores it!

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Marko
03/03/2008 at 18:36

We've just had those signs up round our way,

10314 deaths in 12 minutes.

14 million injuries in an hour,

bloody rediculous, what are the goverment doing about this????


It's only the internet.

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sparks
03/03/2008 at 19:18

(A483 Newtown to Llandridnod Wells +A44 to Aber 105 in 2006.)

But what a stongking great bit of road though. you can see why so many get it wrong there, the road sucks you in.

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R1 loon
03/03/2008 at 19:19
Marko wrote (see)

We've just had those signs up round our way,

10314 deaths in 12 minutes.

14 million injuries in an hour,

bloody rediculous, what are the goverment doing about this????


at least the roads will be quiet for you this week

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matt2871
03/03/2008 at 19:25

A483 Newtown to Llandridnod Wells?

only been as far a brecon! looks like a great road , might give it a go some time!!

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AlmightyDutch
03/03/2008 at 19:33
Oh come its only bloody Brunstrum again. SInce when does anyone listen to the loony!!!

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d3rd3
03/03/2008 at 19:38
what scares me a lot that gov will not make places where accidents happend more safe by changing bends shape, new road surface, road signs, etc. But they answer will be installing more speed cameras... :/

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sparks
03/03/2008 at 19:42

only been as far a brecon! looks like a great road , might give it a go some time!!

That part is only about 25miles long but well worth doing both ways as a detour.

sorry pete, went off topic then. was having fond memories......

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topski100
03/03/2008 at 20:18

It's not a suprise that there are alot of bike  crashes in north wales.

There are alot of bikes riding on the great roads, I know, I'm one of them.

These resources used chasing bikers around here should be used catching criminals. It's our choise to ride - and crash...

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blackdog
03/03/2008 at 20:32
the reason theres so many bike crashes .   its because the fuckin tourists are looking at the scenery ,and not on the road .5% of bike crashes are due to excess speed. brunstrom is a bigotted tosser.    ps i live in n wales
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topski100
03/03/2008 at 20:34
Marko wrote (see)

We've just had those signs up round our way,

10314 deaths in 12 minutes.

14 million injuries in an hour,

bloody rediculous, what are the goverment doing about this????


yep, Know what ya mean, is that the chester high road by any chance?
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Phil_ER5
03/03/2008 at 21:34

I knew one of the people who died and considering that the accident was caused by an unlit tractor/trailer at night, i fail to see its the riders fault.

The problem is Almighty Dutch, people do listen. God knows why

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Miguel Huntos
03/03/2008 at 21:34
Just proves that putting up speed cameras doesn't work. He is such a twat, he looks like the div kid in school but with power and a hat.
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Horse
04/03/2008 at 09:20

you can see why so many get it wrong there, the road sucks you in

Learning how to go around corners and come out the other side isn't an option, then?


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04/03/2008 at 09:51
Phil_ER5 wrote (see)

I knew one of the people who died and considering that the accident was caused by an unlit tractor/trailer at night, i fail to see its the riders fault.

The problem is Almighty Dutch, people do listen. God knows why


It may not be totally the riders fault, but who knows had he/she been more aware and possibly travelling slower he may have seen the unlit tractor in time to react and avoid a collision..

Its not just about being right, its about arriving alive.. If there is such a high proportion of fatal accidents involving motorcyxcles the authorites are going to look at the commonest denominating factor...which is going to be the presence of a motorcycle..and that is why Chief constables feel the need to both target bikes and to provide support and training for bikers ( Bikesafe /edge44 etc etc)

The speed cameras are NOT there just to catch bikes..they target all speeding vehicles...


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topski100
04/03/2008 at 12:17

loads of signs have been put up along a stretch of road by me.

There are also plans for two speed cameras aswell.

Reason?

Two deaths in three years.

What the authorities 'forget' to mention is the cause of deaths.

The first was a cyclist hit by a car - well it's a busy roads, used by many cyclists and no cycle lane.

The other was an old dear blown into the road after getting off the bus. Seens as the speed limit is 60mph I'm not suprised she was killed.

Are these valid enough reason to spend god-knows how much on speed cameras and signs?

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LENSKINED
04/03/2008 at 12:30
where I live there is a relative new by-pass( been there about 10yrs now).Not 1 single death or serious accident on the road yet 4! yes 4 sets of cameras have been put up! Thats "8" cameras on a 2mile duel carriageway by-pass

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