Roundabouts

Highway Code Rule 185

Watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all.

Denno wrote (see)

YES YES YES i know but how many of us ride to the book all the time

Well, if you don't ride by the book what are you doing going chasing others who you think have made mistakes?

_Yoda_ wrote (see)

Well that's this thread over then

I was stood at the bus stop tother day , imagine my surprise when it just drove straight past 'cos I never put my hand out for it to stop ..I too gave chase , but to no avail .

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Denno wrote (see)

Hi just a thought how many of you have been cought out on a roundabout when you slow down to check all is clear when you,re just about to pull away when the Prick in the car decides they are going all the way round but don,t bother to indicate and then give you the stare like what the fuck you doing pulling out on me its my roundabout and i,ll do what i like it realy pisses me off I,ve given chase to so many of the twats and have had a right go at them A SORRY is,t good enough when you,ve been hit ( I,ve had a bad day at work today and some twat has just done exactly just what i,am on about) So thats my moan out of the way, hope you all are in fine fettle and look forward to reading some of you,re escapes on roundabouts

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Denno wrote (see)

Well Well Well, Going around the roundabout without giving signals is due care and attention to me plus not giving a fuck about other road users, but then with YOUR holier than thou attitude you proberly don,t you don,t come across anything like that do you

Pulling out on somebody using the roundabout without considering that they may not be indicating correctly would constitute riding without due care and attention to me.

It happens so frequently, how can you not anticipate that it might happen before pulling out? Sure, it is annoying but it is hardly unpredictable.

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Denno wrote (see)

Well Well Well, Going around the roundabout without giving signals is due care and attention to me plus not giving a fuck about other road users, but then with YOUR holier than thou attitude you proberly don,t you don,t come across anything like that do you

I see poor standards of signalling and road position on roundabouts often. It is so prevelent it is even mentioned in the Highway Code as something to be aware of...

But since I'm not a policeman I don't find the need to give 'chase to so many of the twats and have a right go at them' either. 

With a bit of luck your attitude might even get you a tug under Section 5 of the Public Order Act and you'll have to learn to control your anger and irrational behaviour.

piney wrote (see)

Rule #1, Assume everyone is going to attempt to kill you, follow that and you'll not go far wrong...

No.  Presuming that everyone is going to try to 'kill you' will tend to lead to you think that you are being persecuted and give an aggressive reaction, like Dummo's 'given chase to so many of the twats and have had a right go at them'.

Better to presume that, like you, people make mistakes and be prepared to avoid them.

FJSRiDER. wrote (see)

No.  Presuming that everyone is going to try to 'kill you' will tend to lead to you think that you are being persecuted and give an aggressive reaction, like Dummo's 'given chase to so many of the twats and have had a right go at them'.

Better to presume that, like you, people make mistakes and be prepared to avoid them.

i can go along with that, but lack of indication ?  Man, pisses me off so much I do wanna chase em and have a right go. It's good job i'm too lazy, otherwise it'd be a full time job

TongPo wrote (see)

i can go along with that, but lack of indication ?  Man, pisses me off so much I do wanna chase em and have a right go. It's good job i'm too lazy, otherwise it'd be a full time job

I'd like people to get pulled up for really minor traffic infringements much more than they are.  Might concentrate their minds wonderfully.

Was following a police car who was following a Audi estate the other day.  The Audi suddenly dived for the pavement, pulling up over double yellow lines - parking with two wheels up on the pavement - to answer his phone.  The copper slowed while the Audi pulled over and then just drove past.  People know they can get away with shit like that and so they do worse on the road. 

I'd like to see them go round at night an ticket every car parking within 15 feet of a corner or junction and everyone with a wheel on a kerb.  Slap a £30 fine on those that fail to give way to pedestrians as they turn into minor roads.  Box junction cameras have done wonders in areas of London where people were routinely ignoring them, lets see coppers target areas and ticket people blocking them.  And so on until drivers (and riders) start thinking about their responsibilities.

FJSRiDER. wrote (see)

TongPo wrote (see)

i can go along with that, but lack of indication ?  Man, pisses me off so much I do wanna chase em and have a right go. It's good job i'm too lazy, otherwise it'd be a full time job

I'd like people to get pulled up for really minor traffic infringements much more than they are.  Might concentrate their minds wonderfully.

Was following a police car who was following a Audi estate the other day.  The Audi suddenly dived for the pavement, pulling up over double yellow lines - parking with two wheels up on the pavement - to answer his phone.  The copper slowed while the Audi pulled over and then just drove past.  People know they can get away with shit like that and so they do worse on the road. 

I'd like to see them go round at night an ticket every car parking within 15 feet of a corner or junction and everyone with a wheel on a kerb.  Slap a £30 fine on those that fail to give way to pedestrians as they turn into minor roads.  Box junction cameras have done wonders in areas of London where people were routinely ignoring them, lets see coppers target areas and ticket people blocking them.  And so on until drivers (and riders) start thinking about their responsibilities.

wavydave wrote (see)

I was told by a policeman and a TDBC parking attendant, that parking with a wheel on the curb is not an offence as long as you are not obstructing clear passage for a wheelchair,1 metre

Hmmm.....

Does that mean you can park a bike wherever you like?

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You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.

[Law GL(GP)A sect 15]

'Should not' does suggest that it is disapproved of rather than illegal.

Handy.  But the Audi was still straddling a double yellow line.