So come on CS, what have you done for the cause?
I have argued and proselytised about the folly of demonstrating how to steal bikes that aren't protected by one suppliers product. If you don't see that as supporting 'the cause' errr...I don't care very much. It's my view and I'll keep on stating it. It isn't my job to demonstrate that these activities don't increase bike theft, I'm passive...it's the job of those that are active to demonstrate that they don't increase it.
If you want more than that, then here goes:
Visordown isn't generally known for having a population of people that get the vapours when confronted with robust, dark humoured, argy bargy. If people don't like robust then they're in the wrong place. If they don't get dark humour...umm...work on it.

In human terms I have no personal axes to grind against Zanx and what he's doing. I don't think in terms of malice and I hope he doesn't see it that way from what I've said. If so, I apologise.
I disagree with what he's
doing not with his intent. I haven't met him but I imagine he is a very nice bloke with good intentions and I admire him for it. In that respect my, sometimes acerbic, posts aren't posted to give him grief, they're aimed at the people I think go 'Baaa baaaa' in support of this particular campaign for greater bike security that, to my eyes anyway, looks like a way of getting people to dump their current stuff and spend money with Almax and increases bike theft.
I see it like this:
If I got into an alliance with Renault and started doing roadshows around Europe and publicising in detail on the web, how to steal our competitors cars, there'd be a bit of a bother. You'd be a bit brassed off if, using a particular technique that I'd demonstrated, your Ford got swiped maybe?).
If I got into an alliance with a home security provider - alarms, Abloy, whatever and publically demonstrated how to burgle houses that were fitted with competitor products, I think the old bill would be having a word.
(I have also taken issue with those TV progs that explain scams in enough detail to generate an explosion of the same ones in my area within a couple of weeks).
Zanx, if you think this is personal, then, like I said, it isn't, I don't have any reason for it to be so. I disagree with some of what you do and I disagree quite strongly (not withthe reasons you may do it)...and use this arena to do it
a la mode of Visordown. If I had the money to fund you to set up an independent testing and consultancy business I'd do it (provided that the roadshows and web stuff stopped of course).
On the other hand, while the roadshows and the links (arf!) to one manufacturer go on...I'll keep gobbing off. It's a free world at the moment, I have a view, people may or may not like it. Tough.
Like it or lump (hammer) it people. I'll keep spending 0.000003% of my life arguing about it.

PS. Someone asked what chains I used. Why? Do you want to know whether to bring croppers, sledge, carbide wheel, freeze spray or biro cap?

