patent help?

Stig

20/11/2007 at 21:07

We've come up with what we believe to be a unique idea for a product. Intial searches for products matching the description have proven fruitless so we think we're good to go. I've used the beta google patent search for US patents and returned nothing - so it looks good.

Where we are coming unstuck is the UK. I am very nervous about going to a search agent for fear of poaching the idea. So if anyone here can rpovide guidance it would be really welcome.

Also in order to make a good bid for a patent is there a set format for the paperwork? I have sketched the idea down with each feature with an explaination of what each does. The workings of some of the features are left a little open as I'm not an engineer so it would just be an example of what the feature would result in not how it would work.

If anyone works in this area to maybe we can talk business, I'm not going to blindly accept the first offer etc but am more likely to (foolishly?!? ) trust someone here than just via an agent search.

Thanks

Mike

20/11/2007 at 21:09

What is it?

JonnyBiker

20/11/2007 at 21:10

My sister used to work in patent law, but i dont know what you want, help, advice, u actually wanna patent the idea, what?

Dingbat

20/11/2007 at 21:11

Isn't RevFred in that line of business?

Dreaming of life in a modern secular democracy. If you find one, please let me know. Apart from France, that is, because it's full of cheese

20/11/2007 at 21:12

I believe Veggie Dave is clued up to the spuds in this department. He does a mean egg on toast too.

herriwullie

20/11/2007 at 21:15

Dingbat wrote

Isn't RevFred in that line of business?

Indeed he is, I'll PM his details to Hagar.

His usual moan about 'unique products' is that they ARE usually patentable ideas, but AREN'T usually any good commercially :smoke:

Watch Out For That Tree

Terror Scrotum

20/11/2007 at 21:23

Hagar T Orrible wrote

I've used the beta google patent search for US patents and returned nothing

In the USA, patents successfully applied for by the National Security Agency (NSA) are not disclosed on any searches. They only become available for viewing in the public domain if someone tries to patent the same idea, then they are revealed. So if you've come up with a design for some sort of covert death ray, you might have been beaten but won't know until you apply

Alienfish

20/11/2007 at 21:23

Well, you need to work out HOW it works, you can't patent the end product. Like when they tried to patent scrollbars, etc. You need to work out how it will work.

zub

20/11/2007 at 21:24

i think you would need a working prototype first to patent it. can be something very simple. But i also have a nice idea and would really like to know the basics of this patenting crap. i heard it costs a lot to get stuff patented especially for multiple countries. is this true?

20/11/2007 at 21:26

yes. And then China copies it anyway.

Good Luck.

Stig

20/11/2007 at 21:27

herriwullie wrote

Indeed he is, I'll PM his details to Hagar.

His usual moan about 'unique products' is that they ARE usually patentable ideas, but AREN'T usually any good commercially :smoke:

trust me this one is and we're so far gobsmacked no one has done it

though we could find out someone has I suppose but so far nothing

20/11/2007 at 21:45

Try Dragons Den

Stig

20/11/2007 at 21:59

CoolHands wrote

Try Dragons Den

if we get patent we will!

Mussels

20/11/2007 at 22:04

Hagar T Orrible wrote

trust me this one is and we're so far gobsmacked no one has done it

though we could find out someone has I suppose but so far nothing

Is this gonna be like BT trying to enforce it's patent on the hyperlink?

TIT#211D

Ares

20/11/2007 at 22:12

Patent Lawyer required, Miguel.

Plus a lot more.

Stig

20/11/2007 at 22:20

whats the typical cost going to be to do it? The searches at least?

A-I-S

20/11/2007 at 22:22

Terror Scrotum wrote

In the USA, patents successfully applied for by the National Security Agency (NSA) are not disclosed on any searches. They only become available for viewing in the public domain if someone tries to patent the same idea, then they are revealed. So if you've come up with a design for some sort of covert death ray, you might have been beaten but won't know until you apply

you mean they nick it -fuckin yanks

Have you filled your GARAGE in yet?

A-I-S

20/11/2007 at 22:23

CoolHands wrote

Try Dragons Den

no dont ,its a con

Have you filled your GARAGE in yet?

Ares

20/11/2007 at 22:23

Searches southward of a k depending on how radical your invention is. Do you have any idea how much BS is so-called 'patented'? FFS. Microsoft and Apple get hit up with patent suits every 5 seconds by mouth-breathers from Gloucestershire.

And other places.

SID.

A-I-S

20/11/2007 at 22:24

Hagar T Orrible wrote

whats the typical cost going to be to do it? The searches at least?

about a grand,inc surches and a patent law fingy guy... or girly

Have you filled your GARAGE in yet?

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