Involving,Inspiring passionate....All words to explain the ride experience of a ducati.?...What do they mean...Are they just ambigious words to justify the costs !!..or do they offer something more than IL4...............if so in Plain english wot is it.?...
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bugger me, here we go................... this is either going to turn into a 4 post thread, or a 4 page+ one, describing how shitty the VD collective think Ducati's are C, with 5 of them in the garage
To add DUCATI owners are also very quick to label IL4's as bland, boring and clinical.......!
we also have 2 inline 4s as well - and have had them (and many others) for lots longer than the Ducati's
If the Aprilia is anything to go by (all italian bikes are the same)...Riding round, the bike goes where you look. You don't even conciously turn the bars - the bike just goes there, where you look, and it stays exactly onj the line, every time . The bike stops and goes and changes gear with you, every upshift or blip of the throttle, every grunt from the engine and laugh from the rider, reminiscent of some exotic machine symphony That's involving .
thats what gets me, i can ride almost any bike, and have an emotional experience. i dont need a duke.but to emulate these things on your jap 4, i propose, yank 2 spark plugs out,never change the oil, graft on a cagiva mito fairing..for involvement, i recommend halving the psi in your rear tyre.get around £4000 and poke it down the drain. at 2000 mile intervals, poke £800 down there.there. now you can gloat at poor people on their faster, more reliable, cheaper to run pauper tat. hth
i'm hoping it evolves into an objective thread that has substance and brings something good and 'bike' to VD for today...Could it simply be the riding position ? the feeling of being part of the bike, instead of on top of it ? Only ridden the 916 derivatives, so not sure how the Multi's etc 'feel' ?
For me it is just the 'feel' which is very hard to explain. The snarl from the airbox, the booming roar on the overrun, the way they corner like they're on rails, the jingly jangly musical clutch, the gorgeous way they (most of them) look, getting fired out of bends whatever gear you're in, and the way that non-bikers will stop and look at your bike when you park up, admire it, ask you questions, as they equate Ducatis with things like Ferraris, and see them as cool and stylish. I occasionally pick my wee girl up from school on mine, does that ever raise her coolness rating with schoolfriends! Of course, all this only applies to red Ducatis, all the rest are shit
so its the Kudos.?..cos the riding expereince u explained ..the snarl the overun..is on most il4's....induction roar etc.?...agreed though yellow is slower and just the undercoat...heheheh
Count Steer wrote
'Involving' is pretty straight forward...you have to learn and understand stuff about the bike and work with it to get the best out of it.Sometimes that's fun, sometimes it's nice not to have to be involved or to have to think much about what's happening with the bike...just relegate the bike operating related activities to a corner of the brain. eg lots of things happening around you/risk/danger or long journeys with nice views n' stuff.'Involving' seems a useable attribute when describing a bike.'Inspired' should be kept for brilliant and novel designs that move the whole 'bike thing' forward. It's better suited to marketing spiel like - 'adding a 2006 road version of their iconic 1950s TT winning 500cc 'Thunderguts' was an inspired move. Despite scepticism it sold well and elevated the brand profile for very little outlay'.
Something similar to that.although I think modern Ducatis are becoming less involving as they try to reach the same levels of day-to-day usability/reliability/ease of use that the modern motorcyclist seems to want.Go back to my old Pantah (for example) and the thing was genuinely involving to ride - you needed to concentrate hard to get the bike to do what you wanted, which is NOT to say it didn't handle - it just required positive input, rather than passive acceptance (which is more the norm these days I feel). It took experience to get the best of it, the rider was far more a part of the ride.Inspiration and Passion can also come from the process of being involved with riding a bike - the more involved you are, the more a part of the ride you are, rather than being a passenger: then the more satisfaction and sense of achievement you can draw from the whole experience - the more satisfaction you can draw from something, the more passionate you will feel about it, and the more inspired you will be to do it again.'Tis one of the reasons I don't like riding most modern bikes (on the road), they're far too "good", and to be truly involved with riding them, to truly make your rider inputs more a dominant part of the ride you need to be doing some truly silly speeds; speeds that belong on a track. There's far more satisfaction, involvment, passion and commitment in riding a bike that isn't a piece of white goods.
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