insurance question

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14/03/2009 at 17:04

is it possible for a vehicle to have multiple insurance policies covering it at one time?

is it legal? will the insurace co's do it?

I say no its not possible and possibly illegal, maybe?

what sayeth the all knowing mr Loon?


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14/03/2009 at 17:15
hope your not in a hurry for his wisdome on this one as he's at the footy with his mate's .and as you do. go for 10 pint's and a curry afterwards then come home pissed at 9 oclock
14/03/2009 at 17:40
As far as I know Taff...you can only have one policy per vehicle.
14/03/2009 at 17:59

You can actually insure a vehicle as many times as you like, but it is a bit stupid as the policies will only pay out for the value of the vehicle / repairs once in the event of a claim. 

The rule that applies is either one of contribution where the insurers share the cost of the claim or more commonly for general public policies, the first to be put in place would pay out and the other insurer would void their policy.

It's not illegal to have dual / multiple insurance in place, unless the intention was to try to claim the full amount of the vehicle on each policy, in which case this is fraud and will land you with a nice fine, voided policies and possibly a stay at HM pleasure, if of a high oenough value.

There are a few legitimate reasons for dual / multiple insurance, but none of these apply to a normal vehicle owned by a member of the public.

Simple answer is technically the other person is right, practically speaking you are right.

Btw, I'm more pissed off than pissed


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14/03/2009 at 18:15
cheer Loon, have a pint on me 

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14/03/2009 at 20:26
Great explanation Loon, always wondered about this, now it's sorted in my mind, thanks.
15/03/2009 at 14:22
R1 loon wrote (see)

You can actually insure a vehicle as many times as you like, but it is a bit stupid as the policies will only pay out for the value of the vehicle / repairs once in the event of a claim. 

The rule that applies is either one of contribution where the insurers share the cost of the claim or more commonly for general public policies, the first to be put in place would pay out and the other insurer would void their policy.

It's not illegal to have dual / multiple insurance in place, unless the intention was to try to claim the full amount of the vehicle on each policy, in which case this is fraud and will land you with a nice fine, voided policies and possibly a stay at HM pleasure, if of a high oenough value.

There are a few legitimate reasons for dual / multiple insurance, but none of these apply to a normal vehicle owned by a member of the public.

Simple answer is technically the other person is right, practically speaking you are right.

Btw, I'm more pissed off than pissed

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15/03/2009 at 14:47
nsrmad wrote (see)
 
A phone jockey from direct line told me it was...

It's not illegal, but hey much better to believe a £15k a year muppet, than the guy who runs the whole motor claims piece for one of the largest insurers in the UK.

Reality is that if he tried to explain the true rules behind it then his or your head would explode and / or he'd get it wrong, so here's a basic grounding.

Under the Insurable Interest Act (1774) a person may indemnify themselves against loss of or damage to any of their property.

The concept of indemnity is that you put yourself back in the same financial position as you were before the incident.

When applied to motor policies this mean that you can replace / repair your bike / car once, so you will recieve one payout to place you in the same position.

There is nothing to stop you  insuring the vehicle may times over, but if each policy paid out the value of your repairs / vehicle then you would be in a better financial position, thus you would stand to gain from the incident, rather than "stand still". As such multiple policies covering a car / bike for the general public would only be taken out to commit fraud, which is a criminal offence.

So taking out multiple policies is not illegal, claiming on them (for financial gain) is.

There are many rules tha apply and many laws that govern this area, so this is a very basic explanation and there are lots of rules for other disciplines of insurance where multiple policies and multiple claims are legitimate; such as coinsurance, self insurance, marine, disease, liability and the list goes on and on and on.


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15/03/2009 at 14:53
can you run me off a policy for the wife , Loon, Ive got 10 coloured chaps coming around tonight, Id like to insure her against disease

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15/03/2009 at 15:01

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15/03/2009 at 15:26
ah right, i was under the impression it's illegal to insure a vehicle twice but its only illegal to claim on it.  so you could have 2 policies on a wroteoff car but you can only claim on one.

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15/03/2009 at 16:21
CBR6DC wrote (see)
ah right, i was under the impression it's illegal to insure a vehicle twice but its only illegal to claim on it.  so you could have 2 policies on a wroteoff car but you can only claim on one.
Exactly, so you'd have to be an idiot to pay two for two policies, unless you enjoy prison after trying to claim

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15/03/2009 at 17:05
R1 loon wrote (see)
nsrmad wrote (see)
 
A phone jockey from direct line told me it was...

It's not illegal, but hey much better to believe a £15k a year muppet, than the guy who runs the whole motor claims piece for one of the largest insurers in the UK.

Reality is that if he tried to explain the true rules behind it then his or your head would explode and / or he'd get it wrong, so here's a basic grounding.

Under the Insurable Interest Act (1774) a person may indemnify themselves against loss of or damage to any of their property.

The concept of indemnity is that you put yourself back in the same financial position as you were before the incident.

When applied to motor policies this mean that you can replace / repair your bike / car once, so you will recieve one payout to place you in the same position.

There is nothing to stop you  insuring the vehicle may times over, but if each policy paid out the value of your repairs / vehicle then you would be in a better financial position, thus you would stand to gain from the incident, rather than "stand still". As such multiple policies covering a car / bike for the general public would only be taken out to commit fraud, which is a criminal offence.

So taking out multiple policies is not illegal, claiming on them (for financial gain) is.

There are many rules tha apply and many laws that govern this area, so this is a very basic explanation and there are lots of rules for other disciplines of insurance where multiple policies and multiple claims are legitimate; such as coinsurance, self insurance, marine, disease, liability and the list goes on and on and on.

I wasnt doubting you, I'm just a bit pissed off if that stupid cock cost me 40 quid fees to sort out the other policy that was on the same vehicle.
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