How practical is a 1000cc Sportsbike?

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How practical is a 1000cc Sportsbike?

So, the time has come to get rid of my faithful CBR600F. The simple reason is, its too old to be doing what I require of it (at least, thats my excuse! )

I am looking for a bike which gives me all the same enjoyment, something I can do my small commute on, sunday blasts and a bit of touring to. With my budget of around £3000 I am thinking of going up to a litre sportsbike, but bearing in mind I want to do some light commuting and sports touring, how practical are they? are there some more practical then others? should I steer clear altogther and get something else? (suggestions please).

Looking through the adtrader and other places like that, spending this kind of money on this kind of bike would get me a 1999-2002ish fireblade or something of a simular kind....Any comments from people that own or have owned these bikes would be good.

If the engine is less stressed, then it's less likely to die on you - hence why 125cc bikes blow up because they're ragged everywhere.1000cc bikes rarely get ragged to their limits on the roads (provided you cahnge up to 2nd gear every so often)

That would depend how you ride the 600....I rode my 600 permanently in the 10000-14000rpm range which is far more fun than riding my blade in the 6000-9000rpm range however my blade has toured all over Europe, it's commuted, it's scared the shit out of me, it's carried a tent and luggage, it's carried a pillion......it's done everything I've asked of it. It did 880miles in a day once and another 500miles the following day with little in the way of aches and pains....the only downside is the reliability of the electrics and it isn't as manic as hooning a 600.HTH

I scratch, commute, trackday, pootle on a gixer 1000. Day in day out. No problem.You could pick up a minter RRX/RRW blade for that money, although the gixer has a comfier seat.

After a string of various litre-class bikes (TL-S, Tuono, GSX-R 11 etc) my R1's the most practical of the lot. Way fast enough, reliable, comfy-ish if I have a stretch and a cigarette every fuel stop (and I'm lanky), no problem at all.

i've had a Blade, and a couple of R1'sPractical... fuck yeah... they only go as fast as you turn the throttle.

ZX9R might be a god choice as they are a bit bigger and have good wether protection if your commuting all year round.Docca had his W reg one for sale for just over £2k

It's not that practical though - it struggles to get a dishwasher home from Currys.

I'm on my 3rd blade and had no problems with any of them. All day comfortable, will do whatever you want it to - scratch, tour with luggage, commute. Can scare you easily or you can just be lazy and use the torque. crackin' good bikes.

Gibbo wrote

It's not that practical though - it struggles to get a dishwasher home from Currys.

...had a slight problem with a new telly on mine, but an extra cargo net sorted it.

I sold my road 600rr and bought a ZX10R, best thing i ever did its as mad as a box of mad things when you want it to be, however, tame enough when you want it to be

You really need to try before you buy either by getting a test ride from a dealer or blagging the lend of the bike of your choice from a mate.How well a bike fits you will depend on how fit and flexible you are and your physical dimensions. I have put long miles on ZX9R,GSXR1000K3 and ZX10R and they suit me just fine.

Which is the most "all-round" of the litre-sportsbike, out of interest? By which I mean the most comfortable/practical/etc, rather than the outright fastest or most track orientated.Of course, it could be one and the same bike, but as they've evolved over the years (say back from ~1998ish) have they become more track-focused a la the sports 600's and if so, which si the pick of the bunch over the last 10 years?!

They're all so good now (and so similar) that I think the biggest considerations for buying are looks, price and availability. As far as performance etc goes, you wouldn't be disappointed with any of them

VFR 750, SV1000, Fazer Thou, Blackbird?

I've owned a few blades and have ridden an example of every blade model that's been made. All of them are highly competent at commuting, touring, sunday blasts and track days. The '98 and '99 models (the last carbed blades, at 918cc) were labelled as sports - tourers by the press because they weren't quite as extreme as the first R1s. They are certainly the most physically accomodating, the 2000 and 2001 models (929cc) shrank dimensionally. These were also the first FI'd blades, and honda didn't quite get that right, I've never ridden one that wasn't snatchy getting on the throttle, it's better set up with a can and power commander.The 2002 and 2003 (954cc) blades are, in my opinion, the best blade for the road, but then I would say that, I've got one. Ballistically fast, sweet handling and stonking brakes. In 2004 the first CBR1000RR appeared, and while it's a better performer all round, the riding position's more extreme and track focussed.If you're going for a blade, go for the newest one you can find that's in decent nick. Don't be worried about high miles if there's a service history, I know of 929 and 954 blades with 50k+ miles that have been faultless. Find a decent one with 30k on the clock and it'll be a cheap and reliable plaything for years.

Have a look at a Hayabusa, I have just got mine and I am very very happy with it.Everytime I get back home I cannot stop grinning, even when the missus is pushing my arms back into their sockets. :smoke:

I do 400 miles a week on my RRY FireBlade....a little bit of 2-up touring....it suits my needs very, very well......almost too well....it takes the effort out of a lot of riding...

mad dog 2 wrote

I scratch, commute, trackday, pootle on a gixer 1000. Day in day out. No problem..

Ditto BTW a 1,000 will do everything a 600 can. But a 600 cannot do everything a 1,000 can do.

Ava_Banana wrote

I do 400 miles a week on my RRY FireBlade....a little bit of 2-up touring....it suits my needs very, very well......almost too well....it takes the effort out of a lot of riding...

Is the RR-Y the one with the massive headlight? I like them! Any pics?

MAC wrote

ZX9R might be a god choice as they are a bit bigger and have good wether protection if your commuting all year round.Docca had his W reg one for sale for just over £2k

Thanks for that mate, but i don't anymore. It's going on saturday. My first sportsbike was a cbr600, and i was way underbiked. Yes i could ride all year and all day round, and what ever other cliche's people wish to offer (when they are just comfroting themselves for spending money.... ) but i'll never regret the move to bigger bikes. For that budget, you'll get a lot of bike for your cash. I've owned the following in the last twelve months;Aprilia Falco- You'll pick up a great example for less than £3k. Just about perfect, and WAY under rated. Competant and agile, with comfort and style all in one beautiful package, and the sound is second to none. I loved mine to bits, and would gladly own another. Aprilia Tuono-Best bike i've ever owned, and am ever likely to own. All day comfort, straight 'mandlebars' and an engine which is lifted directly out of it's faired brother. Quick as fuck, handles and brakes extremely well. I regret selling mine, but after sticking 22k miles on it in 8 months, i had to sell.ZX9r E1 model.Current bike. Great performing bike. So very very fast, easily sit at 130 mph all day long. Comfortable and you can tour. If i had never owned a twin, i'd keep it. Like most IL4's, it's rather 'uninspiring'.Next bike (picking up on saturday): TL1000s which has aftermarket everything. I know it will be a step down the comfort ladder, but if i'm moving to Australia i've decided to try all the bikes on my wishlist before i move (when i get there, i'll be getting another Tuono)I do approximately 40k miles a year, and also scratch and do trackdays. All of the above should cope very well indeed (or at least i'm hoping the TL does).Only bike i found uncomfortable and just not at all for me was the 'blade, and i've tried a few. HTH and good luck :x

MrFiction wrote

hence why 125cc bikes blow up because they're ragged everywhere.

not aimed at you but generally they blow up because the stingy fuckers who own them flogg the guts outta them and dont look after them!if looked after a 2stroke is just as reliable/practical as a 4 stroke IMHOthe reason they are seen as unreliable is that no 1 looks after them!Trevor

TrevorElliott wrote

not aimed at you but generally they blow up because the stingy fuckers who own them flogg the guts outta them and dont look after them!if looked after a 2stroke is just as reliable/practical as a 4 stroke IMHOthe reason they are seen as unreliable is that no 1 looks after them!Trevor

It's the size of engine that was important.Which will last longer. A 125 ridden at 70 all day, or a 1,000 ridden at 70 all day ?

Yorick wrote

Ditto BTW a 1,000 will do everything a 600 can. But a 600 cannot do everything a 1,000 can do.

Go the same distance on the same fuel?Stop in the same distance?Cost less on insurance?

azathoth wrote

Go the same distance on the same fuel?

yes

azathoth wrote

Stop in the same distance??

yes

azathoth wrote

?Cost less on insurance?

that isn't what I said

weeksy wrote

i've had a Blade, and a couple of R1'sPractical... fuck yeah... they only go as fast as you turn the throttle.

wow weeksy talking sense shocker dittobuy a R1/Blade/GSXR1000 and enjoy

Yorick wrote

It's the size of engine that was important.Which will last longer. A 125 ridden at 70 all day, or a 1,000 ridden at 70 all day ?

i agree the thou wil last longer but i was just saying that 2 strokes have a worse name than they deserve due to stupid owners id love a thou but id never be able to keep the front wheel down... im only 9 stoneTrevor

I've got an RRY Blade...done 50K ... Very easy to ride, kinda boring to be honest...electrics aren't great, expect to go through tyres, chains and brakes much faster than a 600... Good points are lots of nice lazy power..great 80mph-1** mph punch

I've had a zx9, now got the 04/05 R1. I wouldn't say the zx9 is more "practical", just a bit lardier. I find/found them both comfortable, but then I've never had any problem with sportsbikes.So much depends on what you mean by "practical" or "fun". I'm currently, believe it or not because I've always been a sportsbike nut, looking at the new FZ1. I fancy a change. 130 bhp at the wheel, wide barred, naked hooligan. I have no idea about luggage/comfort......but then I don't buy a bike with those in mind. I've got a test on an 06 tomorrow. Dodgy fuelling, yes, but the FCE kit and a PC will fix that...

Having owned 5 of them and commuted every day, I've really got nothing bad to say about Blades.

road_rager wrote

kinda boring to be honest

Is kinda what I thought of the Blades, too... really brilliantly capable, but lacking a bit of 'spirit' IMO...

A 1000cc sportsbike is not and never will be practical.I read a bit of my fuck buddie's psychology book the other night. There's a chapter in there about you mate ..

gubbs wrote

A 1000cc sportsbike is not and never will be practical.I read a bit of my fuck buddie's psychology book the other night. There's a chapter in there about you mate ..

Why not?Me?

Wingnut wrote

Why not?Me?

You don't appear to be quite so blatantly insecure, needy and inadequate.

road_rager wrote

kinda boring to be honest

That's an opinion that comes up quite often, but I've never seen anyone explain it in a way that I understand. I suppose they're generally pretty high geared, but so are most superbikes.Mine goes fast and can tanskslap if abused, etc. It also has at least one step in the power if you like powerbands.So what do you mean?Is it cos they're not green?

gubbs wrote

You don't appear to be quite so blatantly insecure, needy and inadequate.

Compared to who? What on earth are you talking about?

gubbs wrote

never

When a man says that you know he should be ignored

Wingnut wrote

What on earth are you talking about?

Right back at yer. Spod.

JM1 wrote

That's an opinion that comes up quite often, but I've never seen anyone explain it in a way that I understand. I suppose they're generally pretty high geared, but so are most superbikes.Mine goes fast and can tanskslap if abused, etc. It also has at least one step in the power if you like powerbands.So what do you mean?Is it cos they're not green?

I've never been able to quantify that with a lucid reason, it's just a kind of impression I get. I think there are loads of marginal differences which on their own are almost imperceptible (slightly easier riding position, 3mm higher screen or summat) but when added together as they are on the Blades the sum total is noticeable. Haven't yet ridden a CBR1000RR however, quite looking forward to that!Gubbs is disturbing me

Wingnut wrote

!Gubbs is disturbing me

Try selling him tyres........

JM1 wrote

That's an opinion that comes up quite often, but I've never seen anyone explain it in a way that I understand. I suppose they're generally pretty high geared, but so are most superbikes.Mine goes fast and can tanskslap if abused, etc. It also has at least one step in the power if you like powerbands.So what do you mean?Is it cos they're not green?

Good point, I've ridden most blades and they def have something missing. The 05 I rode was very fast but it all seemed so well errr boring lol No one is gonna argue about how competent they are but they come in fridge freezer white for a reason

As I say, I've never seen anyone explain it in a way that I understand

What if you had ridden the first Blade before all the others superbikes existed?

JM1 wrote

As I say, I've never seen anyone explain it in a way that I understand

They're too NICE!

azathoth wrote

Go the same distance on the same fuel?

My blade drinks less than my 600 did

azathoth wrote

Stop in the same distance?

Yep

azathoth wrote

Cost less on insurance?

My blade is cheaper but I am older.......

i hope Honda realise what a fuck-up the 04/05 model blade wasit was proper boringthe FI models before it and the 06/07 models after are all miles betterCheers Honda

I'm leaving this thread now to go and check if my paintwork has faded to pink yet.

y2blade wrote

i hope Honda realise what a fuck-up the 04/05 model blade wasit was proper boringthe FI models before it and the 06/07 models after are all miles betterCheers Honda

Are you sure it didn't just have really tall gearing No wait, 0.0000156515451mm wheelbase difference, etc, etc

Wingnut wrote

They're too NICE!

That's it The 05 I rode wanted to wheelie less than a zx6, faggot bike

Couch Commando wrote

The 05 I rode wanted to wheelie less than a zx6, faggot bike

Are you sure it didn't just have really tall gearing

JM1 wrote

Are you sure it didn't just have really tall gearing

thats EXACTLY the problem...but why should the buyer have to change the front sprocket to get the bike to behave how he wants???the 06/07 models have lower gearing but increased revs for same top speed and they are miles better to ride

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