How do you put a TV bracket on a plasterboard wall then?

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How do you put a TV bracket on a plasterboard wall then?

I thought you would just use those hollow wall rawplug thingys to get a decent fix.

Not according to the instructions that come with the swivel bracket for a small lcd TV.....if you have a plasterboard wall (that'll be every house built in the last thirty years at least:rolleyes you consult 'a specialist!'

A specialist in what?....reading instructions?,not buying the right brackets?, marriage guidance for when I throw the fecking thing through the window?

Whats your specialist advice then?:smoke:

if its an external wall use a longer drill bit and push raw plugs through into the brick.

or make a unique adapter bracket out of magnesium and fix the adapter bracket to the joists in the ceiling!

Don't reckon a plasterboard will hold a tv unless you put a plate on the back of it or something. Like fungus said, go through and fix to the brick if you can.

plasterboard raw plugs they fan out behind the plasterboard

Monstyr wrote

Whats your specialist advice then?:smoke:

Put it on a table or chest of drawers

nogging

I fixed mine on to the timber framing. Most brackets have a selection of holes or slots. position the bracket so it will pick up two joists. I used heavy self tappers with hex heads about 12 mm straight into the wood and heavy duty metal wall fixings into the plaster board. on the outside of the bracket. 8 fixing points in all.The framing is usually 600 mm wide, just pick up the two nearest the middle of your room, and offset the bracket slightly to make sure the tv is in the centre of the wall. I found 5 ft 5 in was a perfect height.

What's behind the plasterboard?Could be brick/block and the board dot and dabbed on.Or brick/block and the board on strapping fixed to the block.Or timber uprights (studs)Or that really quick to fling up but fucking useless metal channel system.Not an exclusive list BTW.

there you go

fazerdaze wrote

Put it on a table or chest of drawers

Way ahead of you, the bracket sitting beside it looks kind of arty too.

Captain Scarlet wrote

I fixed mine on to the timber framing. Most brackets have a selection of holes or slots. position the bracket so it will pick up two joists. I used heavy self tappers with hex heads about 12 mm straight into the wood and heavy duty metal wall fixings into the plaster board. on the outside of the bracket. 8 fixing points in all.The framing is usually 600 mm wide, just pick up the two nearest the middle of your room, and offset the bracket slightly to make sure the tv is in the centre of the wall. I found 5 ft 5 in was a perfect height.

I might try something like this thanks, the wall is hollow,with plasterboard on the other side too,its a shame that the first notice I have that I'll need some more bits is when I get it out of the damn box,why they couldnt provide them I dont know.

How big/heavy is this tv? Plasterboard with the right fixings will hold more weight than most people realise. If it's only a small screen and your wall has timber studs just make sure you get one of the studs where the bracket is, if it's bigger then you'll need to go across two studs. I've got a 50" plasma on a plasterboard wall, but I cut a section out and added more supports behind it before replacing the plasterboard I'd cut out.

Spring toggles or gravity toggles would be strong enough if you can't fix into the studs or noggins.

No need for wall brackets on plaster board. Just use sky hooks.

Most houses use breeze bloc for internal walls, even new builds.Or at least all I have seen

as above firstly be sure the wall isnt dot and dab with block behind the board (use longer fixing) and if not go for a suitable joist/noggin if you can.theres several options for fixing to plasterboard though my favourite is the good old rawlplug, you have to use the expensive ones from rawl or fischer though as the expand differently to the older type, dont know the weight of the telly but these will do the job for say a shower screen if you dont oversize the hole.after that redidrivas, are pretty good and easy to fix.other options that have been mentioned are all fine too.

Captain Scarlet wrote

I fixed mine on to the timber framing. Most brackets have a selection of holes or slots. position the bracket so it will pick up two joists. I used heavy self tappers with hex heads about 12 mm straight into the wood and heavy duty metal wall fixings into the plaster board. on the outside of the bracket. 8 fixing points in all.The framing is usually 600 mm wide, just pick up the two nearest the middle of your room, and offset the bracket slightly to make sure the tv is in the centre of the wall. I found 5 ft 5 in was a perfect height.

Same here, although my nice uncle the electrician did it all! He just tapped along the plasterboard wall, waiting for the sound to change....then rammed a screwdriver in to check there was the timber frame behind it. (he also ran the power and aeriel inside the wall too which was nice of him!)Once he was sure the frame was there, he used three large screws (vertical up the middle of the bracket) and the job was sorted! One 28" Samsung LCD on the wall!The bracket was from Comet and cost £60 - alot for a little bit of metal

Good fucking grief, I had no idea we had so many muppets on here without the first fucking clue about how walls are constructed. Go out to your garage & weld your toolboxes shut.Has anyone found out if he's talking about one of those flat tv's or a normal one yet? Bit pointless giving advice on how to mount something when you don't know what kind it is....

TVs of any description, including flat screens, are pretty damn heavy once they're over about 24". I wouldn't rely on the plasterboard if I were you, you definitely need to go into the studwork. It's not difficult to find the studsPS it's not every house constructed in the last 30 years that has stud partitions. Just the cheap ones

ZRX61 wrote

Good fucking grief, I had no idea we had so many muppets on here without the first fucking clue about how walls are constructed. Go out to your garage & weld your toolboxes shut. Has anyone found out if he's talking about one of those flat tv's or a normal one yet? Bit pointless giving advice on how to mount something when you don't know what kind it is....

why TF would anyone want to put a crt on a wall, unless you live in a pub...

Judge wrote

Most houses use breeze bloc for internal walls, even new builds.Or at least all I have seen

LOL!!Come and spend a day with me bud!!

ZRX61 wrote

Good fucking grief, I had no idea we had so many muppets on here without the first fucking clue about how walls are constructed. Go out to your garage & weld your toolboxes shut.Has anyone found out if he's talking about one of those flat tv's or a normal one yet? Bit pointless giving advice on how to mount something when you don't know what kind it is....

looks to his left at shelf full of reading materials about housing construction, realises he knows an awful lot about how walls are constructed from single brick skin through to PIFs and rammed earth and wonders why ZRX61 assumes my toolbox is metal and can be welded without asking the question first.Looks at other posts and sees theres some useful info there (Cheb for example knows his plasterboard) and then goes to make a coffee.

how wide is the bracket??if its a timber framed building, the timber uprights behind the plasterboard will ( should ) be at 600mm centres. try to line at least 2 sets of holes with the uprights and used some heavy duty plasterbaord fixings ( the ones that fan out behind the plasterboard ) on the rest of the holes. obviously, the more of the uprights you can ' pick up ' the better off you'll be!!

As said get a good strong fixing either thro the plasterboard and into the wall or into the upright timbers. We have plasterboard walls an I've hung a 32" in the bedroom and a 42" in the lounge this way. Best thing about plasterboard walls is you can hide all the cables easier. I hate to see cables to do with the audio and video system and it took me a week and 150m of cable to install the lounge set-up but it was more than worth taking the time to do a proper job

ZRX61 wrote

Good fucking grief, I had no idea we had so many muppets on here without the first fucking clue about how walls are constructed. Go out to your garage & weld your toolboxes shut.Has anyone found out if he's talking about one of those flat tv's or a normal one yet? Bit pointless giving advice on how to mount something when you don't know what kind it is....

Yay, we are saved, an expert has appeared.P.S. Studs may also be at 400mm centres.Or 16" in a non-metric house.Or the above-ish if using dooks in the stonework.If you ask Lafarge they will send you the big boring book of plasterboard.

Couch Commando wrote

As said get a good strong fixing either thro the plasterboard and into the wall or into the upright timbers. We have plasterboard walls an I've hung a 32" in the bedroom and a 42" in the lounge this way. Best thing about plasterboard walls is you can hide all the cables easier. I hate to see cables to do with the audio and video system and it took me a week and 150m of cable to install the lounge set-up but it was more than worth taking the time to do a proper job

On a side note to this I notice screwfix are doing a d profile trunking in magnolia or aluminium silver now for hiding cables in case routing them in a wall is not an option for whatever reason.

Captain Scarlet wrote

why TF would anyone want to put a crt on a wall, unless you live in a pub...

Because it's chav innit...

stickysidedown wrote

looks to his left at shelf full of reading materials about housing construction,

Which one tells you what kind of TV he has?

Cheb wrote

Yay, we are saved, an expert has appeared.

Sorry, I'm not going to assume I know what kind of TV he has....

ZRX61 wrote

Which one tells you what kind of TV he has?

In these modern times it usually safe to assume guv'nor, but then i did post a pic of a flat screen......

stickysidedown wrote

On a side note to this I notice screwfix are doing a d profile trunking in magnolia or aluminium silver now for hiding cables in case routing them in a wall is not an option for whatever reason.

Yeh but it's still something you would see, if I hadn't had the walls I have I would have chased them in. I took all the skirting off and that had a hollow section behind 2" x 1/2" and I taped the cables in there before 'fishing' them behind the walls, only had to make on hole which required patching up. As a sparky tho I do have a problem with seeing cables when I know they could be hidden

Cheb wrote

Yay, we are saved, an expert has appeared.P.S. Studs may also be at 400mm centres.Or 16" in a non-metric house.Or the above-ish if using dooks in the stonework.If you ask Lafarge they will send you the big boring book of plasterboard.

Fook me, ive not seen any timber framed houses with 400mm centres.....( for the main panels anyway )and its 16 1/4 inches if you wanna get technical

kernow_rich wrote

LOL!!Come and spend a day with me bud!!

The village where I live has become one of 'thee' places to live. as such we have had a huge building boom. all the houses (40+) in the last 12 months have had breeze block internal walls???As dodgy said, only cheap ones

kernow_rich wrote

and its 16 1/4 inches if you wanna get technical

ok, so 412.75mm.... or approx 1/2inch off of 400mm... Close enough for govt work...

ZRX61 wrote

ok, so 412.75mm.... or approx 1/2inch off of 400mm... Close enough for govt work...

You would miss that half inch off the end of your dick.....

Couch Commando wrote

Yeh but it's still something you would see, if I hadn't had the walls I have I would have chased them in. I took all the skirting off and that had a hollow section behind 2" x 1/2" and I taped the cables in there before 'fishing' them behind the walls, only had to make on hole which required patching up. As a sparky tho I do have a problem with seeing cables when I know they could be hidden

Hence the 'if routing them in a wall is not an option for some reason' I'm all for a clean install, if being paid by the hour I'll even do it the old fashioned way if sir wants. I dont know the OP would be happy chasing out walls if hes unsure of how to hang a tv bracket though, nice theres an alternative to box white trunking, thought it may help OP.

Couch Commando wrote

Best thing about plasterboard walls is you can hide all the cables easier.

The other best thing about plasterboard is you can stick a hammer through it or cut a whole load out really easy, then fit some extra studs or bracketry if you need it to fix a TV bracket or something heavy onto, then stick up some new plasterboard.

Thanks chaps, for the record the wall is an internal stud wall,I'll try and locate the solid wood behind the plasterboard.The tv, as stated in the first post,is a small(15") lcd tv,which are flat. The bracket is one which swivels out from the wall.Maybe I should have just got four packets of blu-tack and bypassed the fixings.

Monstyr wrote

Thanks chaps, for the record the wall is an internal stud wall,I'll try and locate the solid wood behind the plasterboard.The tv, as stated in the first post,is a small(15") lcd tv,which are flat. The bracket is one which swivels out from the wall.Maybe I should have just got four packets of blu-tack and bypassed the fixings.

dont waste money on blutac, try chewing gum ( used of course ) the Airways variety is always good...

Judge wrote

The village where I live has become one of 'thee' places to live. as such we have had a huge building boom. all the houses (40+) in the last 12 months have had breeze block internal walls???As dodgy said, only cheap ones

my point was that not all new houses have breeze blocks as internal walls.ive seen and built internal wall with concrete blocks ( 3.5n ), also timber stud. New builds arent all breeze block.depends on the spec as laid out by mr Archi Tech and requirements of said wall.ie, is it load bearing, does it need to be a sound proof barrier etc..on saying this, im assuming by internal walls you're not meaning the inner course of the actual structure...

As Chabs already said, the studs are usually at 400mm centres as plasterboard comes in 1200mmx2400mm boards usually (it sometimes comes in 900mmx1800 but thats pretty rare) and if the walls hollow and your fitting a normal TV then poxy bloody wallplugs are a shite idea, I don't care how tight the hole is, it will end up landing on and killing a kitten.As has also been mentioned, not all internal walls are stuff partitions either.Some are block.Anyway if I had to fit one to a stud partition I would try and get the screws into the studs, only problem is if the bracket isn't wide enough to put the screws in at 400mm centres you may well need to put a aproximatly 500mm length of something like plywood/4x1 onto the wall first.Then screw the bracket into the plywood/4x1.The ply/4x1 should be screwed into the stud and the telly bracket screwed into the ply/4x1 whatever.And kernow_rich?The reason that some walls that are covered in plywood/OSB have the uprights at 16 inch centres is cos the plywood isn't metric.Plywood comes in four foot by eight foot (1220x2440 mm) and plasterboard almost always comes in 1200 by 2400mm sheets.If I am putting a stud up thats getting covered in plasterboard it's fairly pointless to put the studs at 16 inch centres cos after two sheets of plasterboard the edges wont line up with the studs.

Captain Scarlet wrote

You would miss that half inch off the end of your dick.....

I could live witrh loosing that 1/2in if I was left with 400mm...

Monstyr wrote

Thanks chaps, for the record the wall is an internal stud wall,I'll try and locate the solid wood behind the plasterboard.The tv, as stated in the first post,is a small(15") lcd tv,which are flat. The bracket is one which swivels out from the wall..

2 or 3 5/16x4in lagbolts will hold that to a stud, penny washers under the bolt heads & Fanny's yer aunt

demographic wrote

and if the walls hollow and your fitting a normal TV then poxy bloody wallplugs are a shite idea, I don't care how tight the hole is, it will end up landing on and killing a kitten.

Tv is a 15" LCD TV - Good rawlplugs* (Fischer PD for example) will easily accomodate the load if correctly used.No kittens need to die though this is always an optional extra *Edit, Before any pedantry starts, Rawlplug is a trade name but I've referred to it intentionally as 'fischer plasterboard fixing type pd' probably means less to most, myself included, like Biro's or Hoovers sort of thing

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