Honda pulls plug on US bike production

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28/02/2008 at 14:58

"Unefficient Ohio plant to close next year"????

TWO/VD now inventing new words?

28/02/2008 at 15:07
Oooops! My mistake
28/02/2008 at 15:15

There's a job waiting for you on The Grauniad.

28/02/2008 at 15:17
Iwishiknewwhatyouwereonabout
28/02/2008 at 15:39

the yanks cant build anything that will last more than a few months, everything is made to break,look at what clarkson says about thier cars

look at the space shuttle they only made 7 and two of those fell to bits


Have you filled your GARAGE in yet?
Edited: 28/02/2008 at 15:40
28/02/2008 at 16:14

This is exactley what the Japanese are about, they still have an industry because they buy there own goods, just like the germans have a bike and car industry as do the french.  They closed it probably because of market conditions, and transfered the work to their own people.

Remember people you want an industry and Jobs you buy from your own people, think Triumph next time you go to the dealers for a bike and keep the lads in Hinkley in work and not some Jap.


 
 

28/02/2008 at 16:34
I went round the Harley factory in Pennsylvania two weeks ago on a tour. I was there on business and thought that I take a look. It was a very good tour. Tour guide kept on about American made, American steel and American parts. Lots of "Yeahs" and "Right ons" from the rest of the bearded tour group. However he was standing in front of a huge pile of boxes with Brembo on at the time. I knew there was a reason we weren't allowed cameras.

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len
28/02/2008 at 17:20
as-i-said wrote (see)

the yanks cant build anything that will last more than a few months, everything is made to break,look at what clarkson says about thier cars

look at the space shuttle they only made 7 and two of those fell to bits


Yes but one of them would of been ok if they hadn't let the WOMAN have a drive

thats gonna upset the wenches

ooops! and that


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28/02/2008 at 17:51
German engineering + Japanese parts = American space technology

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28/02/2008 at 17:58
T509Speedy wrote (see)

This is exactley what the Japanese are about, they still have an industry because they buy there own goods, just like the germans have a bike and car industry as do the french.  They closed it probably because of market conditions, and transfered the work to their own people.

Remember people you want an industry and Jobs you buy from your own people, think Triumph next time you go to the dealers for a bike and keep the lads in Hinkley in work and not some Jap.


Hallelujah brother!

Top sermon.



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28/02/2008 at 18:50
bmwonder wrote (see)
I went round the Harley factory in Pennsylvania two weeks ago on a tour. I was there on business and thought that I take a look. It was a very good tour. Tour guide kept on about American made, American steel and American parts. Lots of "Yeahs" and "Right ons" from the rest of the bearded tour group. However he was standing in front of a huge pile of boxes with Brembo on at the time. I knew there was a reason we weren't allowed cameras.


Of course manufacturers share parts always have and always will, thinking a motorcycle or car is the total work of one manufacturer is stupid, if a manufacturer produced entirely their own parts then this would drive up the cost out of the reach of Joe average.

However, buying from Harley will insure that the bulk of the work and the money goes into keeping Americans in work, as with buying a Triumph will keep the boys and girls in Hinckley England in work.


 
 

len
28/02/2008 at 18:54
T509Speedy wrote (see)

Remember people you want an industry and Jobs you buy from your own people, think Triumph next time you go to the dealers for a bike and keep the lads in Hinkley in work and not some Jap.


Im gonna have a test ride on a Daytonna 955i next week, do you think I will want one after ?

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28/02/2008 at 18:59
Never rode one, but I have a Speed triple, which uses the same triple engine as the Daytona ( with a few little changes ), if the speed triple is anything to by the Daytona should be pretty good, I have never heard many complaints from owners, as for top speed etc compared to other bikes in same category, how fast do you want to lose your licence?. 

 
 

len
28/02/2008 at 19:02
I love the look of the speed triple.......mmmmmmmm might try one of those as well.

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29/02/2008 at 10:05

Much as I love to buy British and hate the thought of people being put out of work you have to admit that the best thing that ever happened to the British car and bike consumer was the Japanese. They completely decimated our car and bike industry because their stuff was simply much better than ours. Triumph have finally realised that the way to suceed is to make fantastic, reliable bikes at a cost that can compete. Triumph will be on my shortlist when it comes to buying my next bike, but only because it's a great bike and not just because it built by some smiling brummie. I will support Triumph so long as they continue to make great bikes.

If we are talking about UK jobs, how many people are employed in this country by Honda, Nissan, Toyota?


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29/02/2008 at 14:26
T509Speedy wrote (see)

This is exactley what the Japanese are about, they still have an industry because they buy there own goods, just like the germans have a bike and car industry as do the french.  They closed it probably because of market conditions, and transfered the work to their own people.

Remember people you want an industry and Jobs you buy from your own people, think Triumph next time you go to the dealers for a bike and keep the lads in Hinkley in work and not some Jap.


The best way to kill your own industry in the long term is protectionism. Yes, by all means, buy now, let your own industry pay later.

Mollycoddling is hardly the right preparation for competition...

29/02/2008 at 16:25
bmwonder wrote (see)
German engineering + Japanese parts = American space technology
Abel wrote (see)
T509Speedy wrote (see)

This is exactley what the Japanese are about, they still have an industry because they buy there own goods, just like the germans have a bike and car industry as do the french.  They closed it probably because of market conditions, and transfered the work to their own people.

Remember people you want an industry and Jobs you buy from your own people, think Triumph next time you go to the dealers for a bike and keep the lads in Hinkley in work and not some Jap.


Hallelujah brother!

Top sermon.

 Agreed

29/02/2008 at 18:01
bmwonder wrote (see)

Much as I love to buy British and hate the thought of people being put out of work you have to admit that the best thing that ever happened to the British car and bike consumer was the Japanese. They completely decimated our car and bike industry because their stuff was simply much better than ours. Triumph have finally realised that the way to suceed is to make fantastic, reliable bikes at a cost that can compete. Triumph will be on my shortlist when it comes to buying my next bike, but only because it's a great bike and not just because it built by some smiling brummie. I will support Triumph so long as they continue to make great bikes.

If we are talking about UK jobs, how many people are employed in this country by Honda, Nissan, Toyota?

The bike and the car industry are two totally different kettles of fish when it comes to downfall, so let's concentrate on the bike industry.  Where most of the British bike manufacturers went wrong was to play it safe, which is something Harley has successfully pulled off for many years.  The Japanese cannot invent, they simply get something and improve on it, this significant when you look on WHY the British industry died, it wasn't that they didn't have the technology to blow the Japs away, it was because they were not prepared to take risks, this allowed the Japanese to get a foothold and under sell on basically was their equivalent, The British public being the greedy shit head's they are, saved money by buying Japanese but ultimately destroyed their own bike industry.

Now we have a bike manufacturer who is prepared to take risks and build some great bikes, so go and buy them and keep OUR lads and lasses in work and allow them more money to make even better products, after all the owner of Triumph isnt in it just for the money his already rich.

Maybe if we bought enough Triumphs they may be forced to open another factory?, maybe if they were successful enough they would restart their car business?, now that would be something wouldnt it?.

All the Japanese manufacturers would pull out of Britain in a heart beat if it served their purpose, that's how they are, they aren't in it because they love English tea.

Splat wrote (see)
T509Speedy wrote (see)

This is exactley what the Japanese are about, they still have an industry because they buy there own goods, just like the germans have a bike and car industry as do the french.  They closed it probably because of market conditions, and transfered the work to their own people.

Remember people you want an industry and Jobs you buy from your own people, think Triumph next time you go to the dealers for a bike and keep the lads in Hinkley in work and not some Jap.


The best way to kill your own industry in the long term is protectionism. Yes, by all means, buy now, let your own industry pay later.

Mollycoddling is hardly the right preparation for competition...


Utter tripe, read above.

 
 

len
29/02/2008 at 18:07
Totally agree with T509Speedy, if we were to buy more Triumphs then maybe they could be persuaded to make a proper super bike (1050cc perhaps) and then compete at WSB level . Now for that thought alone my next bike WILL BE a TRIUMPH

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29/02/2008 at 18:18

They did enter WSB and if my memory serves me well they didnt do too badly either, but not good enough to stay in and pulled out to concentrate on making bikes, I'm pretty sure they will eventually go back to WSB.


 
 

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