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15/06/2005 at 19:22
what speed would you consider safe when filtering? i only ask because on my wat to work this morning (in the car)going along the M8 traffic was heavy but moving freely,i was in outside lane doing about 70 ish,when along comes a bike doing over 70ish filtering between the lanes of traffic,maybe filtering isnt the right word,he was sort of weaving\dodging\filtering,i thought he had a death wish.So would anyone here consider this a safe thing to do.or has anyone here ever done it?....Sam

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15/06/2005 at 19:23
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what speed would you consider safe when filtering?

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15/06/2005 at 19:26
nothing under 60mph.

reason being is that the road is a dangerous place full of twats in metal cages so its best to spend as little time on the road as possible, and the faster you go the shorter it will take you to get where your going thus you will be safer.

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15/06/2005 at 19:27
druidsam wrote
what speed would you consider safe when filtering? i only ask because on my wat to work this morning (in the car)going along the M8 traffic was heavy but moving freely,i was in outside lane doing about 70 ish,when along comes a bike doing over 70ish filtering between the lanes of traffic,maybe filtering isnt the right word,he was sort of weaving\dodging\filtering,i thought he had a death wish.So would anyone here consider this a safe thing to do.or has anyone here ever done it?....Sam


all depends on the gaps available, type of road, speed of traffic & just how big a grin you want on yer face
15/06/2005 at 19:32
druidsam wrote
what speed would you consider safe when filtering? i only ask because on my wat to work this morning (in the car)going along the M8 traffic was heavy but moving freely,i was in outside lane doing about 70 ish,when along comes a bike doing over 70ish filtering between the lanes of traffic,maybe filtering isnt the right word,he was sort of weaving\dodging\filtering,i thought he had a death wish.So would anyone here consider this a safe thing to do.or has anyone here ever done it?....Sam

Basic rule of thumb is no more than 20mph quicker that the traffic you're overtaking however as an ex-courier with 0.5 million miles covered I've done much worse that this at times IE:100MPH+ through stationary traffic but would not recommend it.

15/06/2005 at 20:07
Whatever speed I'm doing is the correct filtering speed for the conditions.

Anybody who filters more quickly is a reckless fool. Anybody who filters more slowly is a pathetic wimp who has no business riding a motorcycle.


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15/06/2005 at 20:10
Druid wrote
Whatever speed I'm doing is the correct filtering speed for the conditions.

Anybody who filters more quickly is a reckless fool. Anybody who filters more slowly is a pathetic wimp who has no business riding a motorcycle.

Couldn't have put it better myself - absolutely perfect description of a level headed evidence based approach. I fully endorse it. Trouble is I also fully endorsed a beleedin pedestrian while filtering in the People's Republik a couple of weks ago...
15/06/2005 at 20:12
druidsam wrote
what speed would you consider safe when filtering? i only ask because on my wat to work this morning (in the car)going along the M8 traffic was heavy but moving freely,i was in outside lane doing about 70 ish,when along comes a bike doing over 70ish filtering between the lanes of traffic,maybe filtering isnt the right word,he was sort of weaving\dodging\filtering,i thought he had a death wish.So would anyone here consider this a safe thing to do.or has anyone here ever done it?....Sam



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15/06/2005 at 20:25
Motorway filtering gives me the heebie-jeebies - but it's got to be done.

I don't often filter if the traffic is doing 60+mph.
I'll pick off a few lines of cars now and again at 50-60mph.
The closer the gap between cars (nose to tail), the safer I feel when filtering as drivers - in my experience of daily M23/M25 commuting - are more likely to do a quick, unobservant lane-switch if there's more room for them.

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15/06/2005 at 21:00
I happily filter at and above 70 if i'm in the mood, but as a rule of thumb certainly no more than about 20mph more than the traffic!

I'm used to doing M25 traffic at busy times, was scary at first but kinda got used to it now! Gets tiring after a while due to such heavy concentration though!


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15/06/2005 at 21:06
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I'm used to doing M25 traffic at busy times, was scary at first but kinda got used to it now! Gets tiring after a while due to such heavy concentration though!


Used to do M23 to M3 on the M25 in rush hour and you really feel you have done some work filtering that lot. I reckon it all depends on the conditions, there are not hard and fast rules, sometimes you go fast and sometimes you go slow.

If I see someone on a bike approaching behind me when I am filtering and they are going faster then I move over and let them by, if they are happier at that faster speed then good on them and let them go I say.

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15/06/2005 at 21:08
if the cars are doing less than about 90 I'll filter. I mean 70 feels like you could get off and walk faster FFS

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15/06/2005 at 21:11
M8, wasn't me then Cages tend to leap out of my way when I'm on that

But I normally only start to filter when the traffic starts to slow, below 40 and rarely go much faster than them. I do have to odd moment when the surrounding traffic appears to be going too slow, favourite is the bridge when no one changes lanes

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15/06/2005 at 21:14
Druid wrote
Whatever speed I'm doing is the correct filtering speed for the conditions.

Anybody who filters more quickly is a reckless fool. Anybody who filters more slowly is a pathetic wimp who has no business riding a motorcycle.




Seems exactly the right answer to me too :smoke:

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15/06/2005 at 21:16
normally I set myself a safe speed of 40mph, that if the cars are doing less, I'll filter, and above that I slot in and maintain position, as it seems to be the speed that they stop looking out for any risks, and will chop lanes to get position for the perceived inevitable snarl-up ahead (whether it happens or not).

that's if I'm in safety mode, and just riding normal.


have been known to go rather faster though, eh leepy

   

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15/06/2005 at 21:33
ive got some movies of me on the m62 in rushour round leeds that wuldscare the pants of ya ... well maybe

if speeds drop below 80 i start to filter , but have been known to filter at 100+ if in a hurry ...
try not to go more than 20-30 mph fater then the other trafic as ppl have said but that rule often gets ignored when i need to be the other side of lundan in 20 mins .... which can get scary ....
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15/06/2005 at 21:36
If the traffic gets down to 40 on the motorway I'll filter at about 80 if I'm feeling particularly impatient.
15/06/2005 at 21:57
you're all mad ..either that or im just a big woos ...Sam

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16/06/2005 at 07:57
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you're all mad ..either that or im just a big woos ...Sam
You are a big woos I started commuting on the M4 last September and at first I only filtered if the traffic was stationery. After a while I started filtering when the traffic was still moving. I just started raising the speed as I got used to it and now I will filter if the conditions are right for me right up to 80+mph traffic speeds. As others have said, a good rule of thumb for me is 20-30mph faster than the traffic.
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