Attn: MIL Thread: HMS DARING takes to the seas

ZRX Al

15/08/2007 at 13:02

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So the first of the Type 45s almost done its sea trials...must admit I'd never thought I would see the day.

The Royal Navy's newest destroyer, the 7,500 tonne Daring, has successfully completed demanding sea trials off the Scottish coast.

Daring is the first of six Type 45 Destroyers which will be the largest and most powerful air defence ships ever built for the front line. Carrying world-leading missile defence systems, they will be able to engage a large number of targets simultaneously and defend aircraft carriers or groups of ships, such as an amphibious landing force, against the strongest future threats from the air.

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www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/EquipmentAndLogistics/NavysNewestDestroyerBreezesThroughFirstSeaTrials.htm

Ugly bugger tho innit?

and of course the original order was meant to be for TWELVE ships, not six, and don't forget also that we have no airborne air defence...

balbas

15/08/2007 at 13:05

I like the idea that she can go from full speed to stopped in the water in less than 3 hull lengths. That's impressive!

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Pandamonium

15/08/2007 at 13:07

That's a fugly boat! Looks like a grey Toblerone.

And what a shit name - Could they not have given it a hard-sounding name?

Where's all the big guns and stuff?

pistonbroke

15/08/2007 at 13:08

balbas wrote

I like the idea that she can go from full speed to stopped in the water in less than 3 hull lengths. That's impressive!

all depends how fast full speed is! :smoke:

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Phud

15/08/2007 at 13:10

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Whats good fun is being on a ship when they do crash stops, weeeeeeee:burnout:

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BillyBob

15/08/2007 at 13:10

pistonbroke wrote

all depends how fast full speed is! :smoke:

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dan

15/08/2007 at 13:14

ZRX Al wrote

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Carrying world-leading missile defence systems, they will be able to engage a large number of targets simultaneously and defend aircraft carriers or groups of ships, such as an amphibious landing force, against the strongest future threats from the air.

Only if the US let us have them

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Cousin Jack

15/08/2007 at 13:17

ZRX Al wrote

<Carrying world-leading missile defence systems, they will be able to engage a large number of targets simultaneously and defend aircraft carriers or groups of ships, such as an amphibious landing force, against the strongest future threats from the air.

All very fine, and I am sure in simulations HMS Daring is a wonderful weapon, but the old adage about eggs and baskets comes to mind.

Once upon a time we would deploy several (2, 3, or more) air defence ships in a screen around a prime target such as a task force. Each one had less capability than a Type 45, but together they added up to an effective screen. And of course if one of them fell victim to a bomb, torpedo, engine breakdown or other up-fuck you still had a percentage of your capability left.

Come the evil day that a suicide bomber in a speedboat rams HMS Daring the poor buggers in the rest of the fleet need to keep their heads down.

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ZRX Al

15/08/2007 at 13:20

dan wrote

Only if the US let us have them

No, amazingly its all Brit IIRC...errr well apart from the missiles and stuff which is French

if we'd gone US these things (or something like them) would have been pootling round the sea 10 or more years ago...

Monstyr

15/08/2007 at 13:22

I saw that,-wondered what the hell it was at the time.

The pic looks like its off the the island of Little Cumbrae.

str0nach

15/08/2007 at 13:22

Phud wrote

30+ kts

Whats good fun is being on a ship when they do crash stops, weeeeeeee:burnout:

Is that what your avatar is depicting?

Skunkerama

15/08/2007 at 13:22

Crikey, that is a seriously ugly bit of kit. What happened to the sleek and fast Greyhounds of the sea?
Mountbattan must be spinning in his grave.

I wonder if it's up to scratch compared with the old Ticonderoga class ships that the US have.

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ZRX Al

15/08/2007 at 13:23

Cousin Jack wrote

Come the evil day that a suicide bomber in a speedboat rams HMS Daring the poor buggers in the rest of the fleet need to keep their heads down.

Spot on..the spineless brass hats in the Navy keep saying we have just as much capability with fewer ships...shyeah right.

Skunkerama

15/08/2007 at 13:24

balbas wrote

I like the idea that she can go from full speed to stopped in the water in less than 3 hull lengths. That's impressive!

Bet the Chef isn't too chuffed with the idea though.

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K_D

15/08/2007 at 13:54

Yep it been pootling up and down the coast ,periodically being pounced upon by aircraft that are using the hills to hide in prior to going feet wet.........

how do i know?

coz one of the little glens they use to come feckin screaming down whilst hidden from ships radar before they hit the sea takes them over my feckin house!

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ZRX Al

15/08/2007 at 14:30

^^ Cool

Have to say always nice to see yer taxes being well spent on visits north of the border

Skunkerama

15/08/2007 at 14:32

Obviously practicing for when Wee Jock Poo Pong McPlop gets his cuntry back.

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moth

15/08/2007 at 14:48

Norman wrote

That's a fugly boat! Looks like a grey Toblerone.

It's a stealth destroyer

Norman wrote

And what a shit name - Could they not have given it a hard-sounding name?

What do you suggest. The HMS Tyson?

The name Daring has a long history in the RN

Norman wrote

Where's all the big guns and stuff?

Welcome to 1939

It said on the news this morning that it's ASMs were three times fasterer than the speed of sound. What are they then?

Yawn! It's wearing a little thin now, don't you think?

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Bloo

15/08/2007 at 14:49

It looks like something Wallace and Grommit would use.

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balbas

15/08/2007 at 14:51

moth wrote

It said on the news this morning that it's ASMs where three times fasterer than the speed of sound. What are they then?

ASM would be an antiship missile I would have thought, although from what I've read she's designed to be mainly an anti aircraft weapons systems platform.

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